That's my one criticism of Fangio. Think of how good this defense would be if it produced an NFL average amount of TOs. Just going off of memory, I don't really recall his D's in San Fran creating a ton of turnovers. They were just dominant in all other areas. I think part of it is also we never re...

Yeah - it include all the club access (don't need, don't want), parking pass (don't need) etc.
Thanks for all of the info fellas, much appreciated.

Planning to visit Chicago and attend the Bears/Pack game on Nov 12. A friend of a friend has the following tickets for sale and said $840 for the pair or best offer. United Club Seats/Under Roof Sec 204 Row 13 Seats 6,7 Does anyone have any idea on the face value of these seats? I looked up the view...

Hope he buckles that chinstrap tight. That Vikings defense is no joke. They beat Matt Stafford down yesterday. Tough team to debut against. Oh no. Bear fans will tell you this is the perfect week for the rookie to make his first start. :rolleyes: Mike. Do you believe Mitch gives the team the best c...

I think those suggesting Pace should have chosen Gase for head coach might want to revisit that opinion. They've had a crazy schedule and personal matters with Irma and then travel for this game... on top of Jay getting to their team late in the offseason. I imagine it's thrown a wrench into their ...

I don't know what your saying here. Maybe I haven't been clear with my definition of "wrinkle", so when I say wrinkles, I'm talking about problems with offensive line, problems with receivers, etc. So although the offensive scheme may better fit Trubisky, I think Fox is prudent in working...

Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:

Wounded Bear wrote:

G08 wrote: If it's Glennon against next week, I'm just going to play with my puppy.

Call it what you want, I also like to jerk off when we have bad qb play.

Flog the bishop...
Rough up the suspect...

Sack the giraffe

I'm sorry, but if I was the coach responsible for making the decision when Trubisky plays, I would like to work out some of the wrinkles in offensive line play, etc. before I throw the future of the franchise out on the field. I don't think that Fox is exactly way out of line here. I just don't thi...

My feeling is with a QB drafted that high, you put him in with the intention of getting a W. I don't see him as a "hey it's garbage time let's see if he's any good" type guy. If that's the case, don't draft him at 2 overall. I'm not saying go in with that approach every game. Given the ci...

Perhaps they didn't want his first in game experience to be against a HOF division rival QB in a blowout loss? If it were me I would have put Trubisky in halfway through the 1st quarter. It'd be a good time to let him get his first snap jitters out of the way in a game that's already lost. We would...

I predict he's going to do one of two things. Either he's going to announce Mark Sanchez the QB starter or he's going to announce some other change like Kyle Fuller now a CB starter or Amukamara or Cooper. Or Bullard over Unrein. Or something like that. Or perhaps both. I just think in a game where...

Pace signed Glennon as a distraction; he clearly always wanted Trubisky. He paid Glennon just enough to convince everyone that QB was not automatically at the top of his list in the draft and it worked like a charm. Nobody was sure what Pace was going to do with the third overall pick. Some expecte...

Fox said himself today that he's really not trying to be clear as to what is happening in that regard, which is fine by me. It'd be fine by me as well if Fox wasn't so bad at bluffing. After our other losses Fox would immediately come out and declare Glennon the starter for the next game. Now he's ...

G08 wrote: Got a link to that thread?

Usually all different threads. I posted two from earlier this morning with plays from last night. There were some after the other games as well.

Hell... Wheaton... Our $5.5M FA signing has no catches in 2 games. That just shows you what missing TC does. Continuity zero. Has more to do with missing TC. Wheaton simply isn't very good and should never have been signed as a starting outside WR. I have no idea where the notion came from that he'...

Hicks also came out not mincing words: @CEmma670 Bears DL Akiem Hicks: "The changes we need to make, hopefully we make those changes. Hopefully we put our team in a position to win." you really think that was directly referencing the QB? sometimes players think weird shit about the state ...

I don't know if we'll win...but any offensive coordinator worth his salt would absolutely call a flea flicker on the very first play.

So, the narrative about Pace being forced or at least pushed to hire Fox has gone around the interwebs long enough that a lot of people now take for granted that it is true. As far as I know, that whole narrative started as pretty baseless speculation. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense and a lot of det...

So, the narrative about Pace being forced or at least pushed to hire Fox has gone around the interwebs long enough that a lot of people now take for granted that it is true. As far as I know, that whole narrative started as pretty baseless speculation. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense and a lot of det...

idk, I'm not so convinced about Bernstein. He could just as easily be making obvious inferences and throwing them against the wall. Nothing he is saying is ground breaking. Its all shit that has been speculated to death on message boards. It's not like there is anyway to really know he is wrong. He...

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I'm pretty sure this is a dig at Fox and not Bears fans.

I know Fox and Ernie Accorsi have a connection from their time with the Giants, but I believe it's pure speculation that Fox was pushed onto Pace by Accorsi and not in fact Pace's hire. I'm sure Accorsi recommended him, but it was also reported Sean Payton did as well. Is there any actual evidence t...

I noticed him in the lineup only for blocking assignments. That's not a bad thing. That's usually what most rookie TEs struggle with. The fact that they feel he's not a liability in that department is encouraging. What's not encouraging is that we didn't put him or Cohen in at the end of the game t...

Mikefive wrote:When is the last time the Bears actually developed a rookie QB into something good? Jim McMahon... check. Does Jim Harbaugh count? And those were how long ago?

This could perhaps be relevant if anyone on our current coaching staff or scouting department were involved in any of our past QBs.

I agree that it's a case by case basis. On Carson Wentz, I haven't watched enough of him to make a judgement on that. But your implication is somewhat flawed. If starting right away was good for Carson Wentz, that doesn't mean it would be good for Mitch Trubisky. Well I actually think Wentz is kind...

Well for starters, Loggains has admitted that Trubisky would have a different gameplan that Glennon. So it's not what would happen. But you asked for an answer, so... Honestly, Glennon looked to be doing pretty much one read and dumpoff all day. Do I think Biscuit would've done better at that? Very...

You can't "ignore the whole 'don't wanna ruin the rookie thing'". That is the one and only point that matters. It sounds like you are able to separate the 2 issues. But most people on full meatball aren't. They're only asking the first one (where the answer is possibly, but far from certa...

Kevin White is the perfect example of when it comes to the draft, it doesn't matter where a team draft, it still comes down to who the team drafted. Leonard Williams went one pick ahead of the Bears taking Kevin White, but the Bears also passed on Vic Beasley , who was the very next pick. A perfect...

... Trubisky is a long term investment that we need to nurture on the way to getting out of suckville and becoming a consistent playoff team in the near future. Will throwing him out there in week 2 be a positive for that development process or will sending him out with half the playbook that NFL D...

I'm OK with him rolling the dice on him as long as he did what he did.. hedge his bet in the draft. If Glennon looked great he's equity at a very high demand position. He does not look good and I don't see that changing.. so as far as fans are concerned (or as far as they should be concerned) he's ...