12.16.17 // Bears lose to Lions 20-10

[Richie]

damnnnn, andy dalton with one of the best wr's in the game vs a defense missing goldman, unrein, floyd, freeman, young, mcphee and amos must have also had a fucking field day. he did, right?

Grow up, dude. Christ

The clear difference is that Dalton played poorly, while Trubisky played nearly flawless.

Their D was ravaged with injuries. No one took anything away from Trub. It was simply mentioned by a poster. Why do you prefer that a perfectly honest fact like that isn't mentioned? Why are some so persistent on drowning this out?

Also, last time I checked, your CB's have KIND OF a lot to do with shutting down a team's passing attack... and our healthy #1 and #2 did a world class job on Sunday.

Come on, really man? Goodness god damn gracious with this. Why are we even still talking about this? This is what I mean. It was a nothing, aside mention by somebody else (don't even remember who anymore)... but somehow the QB position becomes emotional with people here.

It's just not worth it to talk about Trub around this forum, unless it's 100% positive praise. I am starting to get a feeling of how this board was with Cutler.

This stuff ain't fun man. I'll just tap out now with Trub talk, I guess.

Forget it. See you all tomorrow. Cheers

[BR0D1E86]

the big question I have is, will the Bears duplicate the same type of offense against the Lions as they did against the Bengals?

Doubt it. Pretty much the D-line were the only starters the Bengals had healthy. That’s why Mitchy had a field day.

I believe the Bears were missing 12 projected starters due to injury, including both starting receivers, the starting tight end and the best offensive lineman on the team. So it cuts both ways there.

Not really. Two receivers Mitch never had, and a TE that likely doesn't do more than Shaheen did anyway isn't really comparable to missing your entire back seven on D. lol

I understand what you're saying, but to imply that it was all merely a coincidence with their injuries and Trub suddenly looking like a pro bowl passer. That's being willfully naive.

Regardless, he looked great, and it was huge for his confidence. You just can't overlook that though...

Whether he ever had them or not, hey weren’t there. The Bengals injuries were obviously a factor. But by your logic if Russell Wilson gets hurt in training camp next year and the Seahawks aren’t good, they can’t factor it into evaluations of their play because they never had him. Regardless of how long they’ve been out, they’re still not there.

Anyway, back to what I originally said, the Bengals were definitely beat up but I don’t think it was any more so than us. Except for their team psyche after what was a tough loss the week before that is.

Eh... that's a pretty darn bad analogy.

I'm talking about Trubisky's performance Sunday vs Cincy, compared his previous 8 performances. None of which included those two WR's.

You also drew that analogy to a team's elite, SB winning and possible future HOF caliber QB. When talking about two WR's who have played like 900 receiving yards between each other, and an OG who is talented... but also hasn't been healthy in a long time. It just doesn't make sense.

I don't think Cincy missing nearly their entire back seven, and Trub looking unstoppable all of the sudden is ENTIRELY a coincidence.

The Bengals weren't "banged up". They started a defense which just about compares to the offense we started the last month of our 2016 season. It was a 2nd half of a pre-season game kind of a team out there.

Is a lot of it to do with Trub's improvement? No doubt. You could visibly see the things he was doing better. However, it's disingenuous to willfully ignore and sugar coat how badly their defense was eviscerated on Sunday.

Nobody's ignoring it. You're just pretending that they are for some odd reason.

[Richie]

Doubt it. Pretty much the D-line were the only starters the Bengals had healthy. That’s why Mitchy had a field day.

I believe the Bears were missing 12 projected starters due to injury, including both starting receivers, the starting tight end and the best offensive lineman on the team. So it cuts both ways there.

Not really. Two receivers Mitch never had, and a TE that likely doesn't do more than Shaheen did anyway isn't really comparable to missing your entire back seven on D. lol

I understand what you're saying, but to imply that it was all merely a coincidence with their injuries and Trub suddenly looking like a pro bowl passer. That's being willfully naive.

Regardless, he looked great, and it was huge for his confidence. You just can't overlook that though...

Whether he ever had them or not, hey weren’t there. The Bengals injuries were obviously a factor. But by your logic if Russell Wilson gets hurt in training camp next year and the Seahawks aren’t good, they can’t factor it into evaluations of their play because they never had him. Regardless of how long they’ve been out, they’re still not there.

Anyway, back to what I originally said, the Bengals were definitely beat up but I don’t think it was any more so than us. Except for their team psyche after what was a tough loss the week before that is.

Eh... that's a pretty darn bad analogy.

I'm talking about Trubisky's performance Sunday vs Cincy, compared his previous 8 performances. None of which included those two WR's.

You also drew that analogy to a team's elite, SB winning and possible future HOF caliber QB. When talking about two WR's who have played like 900 receiving yards between each other, and an OG who is talented... but also hasn't been healthy in a long time. It just doesn't make sense.

I don't think Cincy missing nearly their entire back seven, and Trub looking unstoppable all of the sudden is ENTIRELY a coincidence.

The Bengals weren't "banged up". They started a defense which just about compares to the offense we started the last month of our 2016 season. It was a 2nd half of a pre-season game kind of a team out there.

Is a lot of it to do with Trub's improvement? No doubt. You could visibly see the things he was doing better. However, it's disingenuous to willfully ignore and sugar coat how badly their defense was eviscerated on Sunday.

Nobody's ignoring it. You're just pretending that they are for some odd reason.

Okay, maybe "ignoring" was a bad term.

"Attempting to downplay"... "Dismissing"... and "fighting against it".

And overall, being a tad "cunty" about it (not you). Making call-backs to old posts, which is supposed to implicate that I am some kind of a Trub hater.

Mentioning it has been met with quite a bit of resistance...

Oh, and Long probably doesn't get to be called our best offensive lineman, at this point. FWIW... Off-topic, but I just re-read the last page. lol. Sitton is about to make back-to-back pro bowls.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Cianaf/status/942069329088208896

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If I didn't know any better, I would think your stance is heavily fueled by your "If you are sold on him you are a homer of EPIC proportions" Trubisky sentiment.

Richie hi jacking yet another thread with his Trubisky hatred.

[malk]

[UOK]

Amos and Shaheen are out.

[Wounded Bear]

damnnnn, andy dalton with one of the best wr's in the game vs a defense missing goldman, unrein, floyd, freeman, young, mcphee and amos must have also had a fucking field day. he did, right?

Grow up, dude. Christ

The clear difference is that Dalton played poorly, while Trubisky played nearly flawless.

Their D was ravaged with injuries. No one took anything away from Trub. It was simply mentioned by a poster. Why do you prefer that a perfectly honest fact like that isn't mentioned? Why are some so persistent on drowning this out?

Also, last time I checked, your CB's have KIND OF a lot to do with shutting down a team's passing attack... and our healthy #1 and #2 did a world class job on Sunday.

Come on, really man? Goodness god damn gracious with this. Why are we even still talking about this? This is what I mean. It was a nothing, aside mention by somebody else (don't even remember who anymore)... but somehow the QB position becomes emotional with people here.

It's just not worth it to talk about Trub around this forum, unless it's 100% positive praise. I am starting to get a feeling of how this board was with Cutler.

This stuff ain't fun man. I'll just tap out now with Trub talk, I guess.

Forget it. See you all tomorrow. Cheers

Oh my fuckin' god, is this really coming from the dude who trolled me (and others) on the SportsHoopla Chicago Bears forum whenever we had something critical to say of Jay Cutler's play? Really? Just fucking pathetic.

I can see that you are hell bent to turn this board into that same toxic environment with your disrespectful, condescending tone towards anyone who has a perspective that differs from yours. It would serve you well to maybe STFU from time to time and allow the adults to converse civil manner. You are in dire need of learning a thing or two not only about football, but how to treat others when debating any issue you encounter in life.

So I find it super ironic that you have the audacity to tell another poster to "grow up" when you utilize the very childish "shout down" tactic whenever someone doesn't agree with your short-sighted, typically ignorant positions.

[G08]

So....

Bears and Lions, huh?

[mmmc_35]

So....

Bears and Lions, huh?

Yea another game I get to watch a stream of. I am beginning to hate this new work shit.

[G08]

So....

Bears and Lions, huh?

Yea another game I get to watch a stream of. I am beginning to hate this new work shit.

Wife made anniversary plans at an "ancient bathhouse" in the city and a massage... so I can't complain. Going to try and sneak my cell phone to watch the game in the pools though

[GSH]

Shaheen is inactive today and wont play against the Lions.

[DaSuperfan]

Shaheen is inactive today and wont play against the Lions.

Still confused as to what his "chest" injury is. To me it looked like he hurt himself on the TD when he landed on his shoulder. I immediately thought he might have dislocated his shoulder or injured his collarbone. But then he was fine in the game after that because I saw him blocking for Tarik Cohen downfield on the wildcat play. After the game reporters asked him how he felt and he said he was fine. Nowhere did I see him injure his chest.

Anyways, it sucks he's not going to get to play today - was looking forward to seeing him keep building each week.

[WP.1]

just why??

both teams in dark jersey.

[mmmc_35]

So....

Bears and Lions, huh?

Yea another game I get to watch a stream of. I am beginning to hate this new work shit.

Wife made anniversary plans at an "ancient bathhouse" in the city and a massage... so I can't complain. Going to try and sneak my cell phone to watch the game in the pools though

Get yourself that happy ending.

I got a stream to play on my tv. It's crazy when I was young football was easy to watch porn was work to get. As I age porn is easy to get, football is getting more difficult.

[malk]

So....

Bears and Lions, huh?

Yea another game I get to watch a stream of. I am beginning to hate this new work shit.

Wife made anniversary plans at an "ancient bathhouse" in the city and a massage... so I can't complain. Going to try and sneak my cell phone to watch the game in the pools though

Is that a euphemism?

[Rusty Trombagent]

me one week: lets make dowell the head coach.
me the next week: please fire dowell during halftime.

[Otis Day]

The thought of Dowell being a head coach has never crossed my mind. Matter of fact, I have never had that thought for anyone on this staff.

[Otis Day]

That is embarassing, Jackson has to at least just knock that damn thing down.

[WagonForce]

That is embarassing, Jackson has to at least just knock that damn thing down.

This team's third down defense is maddening.

[Otis Day]

Jekyll and Hyde

[UOK]

I hate Jeff Tripplett, and I wish he'd stop getting assigned to Bears games.

[Rusty Trombagent]

"the offense isnt built to score points" is my favorite football euphamism.

[BR0D1E86]

Back to the hyper conservative game planning this week I see. Good move, opening it up was a catastrophic failure last week, as I recall.


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[BR0D1E86]

For the first half other than the inexcusable third down meltdown, the defense has been ok. Loggains needs to be drawn and quartered, however.


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[staleystarch]

Back to run run pass

[Funkster]

If the Bears want any chance at winnning this game they've got to take some chances and stretch the field. The defense won't win this game today. There is absolutely nothing to loose and the Bears are playing full tilt conservative football.

[BR0D1E86]

Shocking. Opened the second half with a run up the middle.


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[UOK]

I'm ready for this season to be over.

[Funkster]

I'm ready for this season to be over.

Amen to that.