*sigh* QB Mark Sanchez signs 1-year deal w/ Bears

[malk]

I'm not defending him. I'm simply saying he is what he is, which is an experienced back up QB. Now I'm not saying Sanchez is anywhere near as talented as Cutler but go look at Sanchez's stats side by side with Cutler. Production is very similar.

Bollocks. That simply isn't true. 61.9% to 56.7% in completion %. 1.42:1 vs 1:1 TD:INT. 85.7 to 73.9 in QB Rating.

Sanchez is the worst player currently active in interception % at 3.8% (tied with Derek Anderson) whilst also being joint 26th in TD% (also 3.8%). Only 3 active players have a worse TD% than him (McCown, Bradford, Henne).

You can't sugar coat this embarrassingly poor signing.

[G08]

I'm not defending him. I'm simply saying he is what he is, which is an experienced back up QB. Now I'm not saying Sanchez is anywhere near as talented as Cutler but go look at Sanchez's stats side by side with Cutler. Production is very similar.

Bollocks. That simply isn't true. 61.9% to 56.7% in completion %. 1.42:1 vs 1:1 TD:INT. 85.7 to 73.9 in QB Rating.

Sanchez is the worst player currently active in interception % at 3.8% (tied with Derek Anderson) whilst also being joint 26th in TD% (also 3.8%). Only 3 active players have a worse TD% than him (McCown, Bradford, Henne).

You can't sugar coat this embarrassingly poor signing.

Yeah, once he said their production is similar I checked out.

[G08]

[Funkster]

Yeah, once he said their production is similar I checked out.

Doesn't surprise me. One of these is Cutler and one is Sanchez, both are from a 15 game season. Clearly there is zero production similarities...

3,033 yrds, yrds/G 202, 58.8 pct, 7 avg, 19 TD, 14 ints
2,883 yrds, yrds/G 192, 54.3 pct, 6.4 avg, 13 TD, 18 ints

[G08]

Cherry picking seasons

Cutler has a better career rating, better TD%, better INT %, better completion %, etc etc etc.


Just a stupid, stupid argument.

[Magnum_Ursus]

Yeah, that's my team, go bears.

[Funkster]

Cherry picking seasons

Cutler has a better career rating, better TD%, better INT %, better completion %, etc etc etc.


Just a stupid, stupid argument.

Sure he does! I'm not arguing who is better. Like I said, Cutler is definitely a better QB. But you can't say the two QB's production is much different. They're probably even on the same tier with Cutler being on the top of the tier and Sanchez at the bottom. Shoot, at this point at least Sanchez is employed.

[G08]

But you can't say the two QB's production is much different.

Have you actually looked at their production in the league? Cutler's thrown for more than twice Sanchez's yardage in their careers, ditto TDs, his completion percentage is roughly 5% higher, etc.

I just don't know what the hell you're seeing/talking about man.

[ramentaschen]

I guess you can interpret this signing to mean that the Bears are not going to draft a QB, at least in the first round and they will focus on their needs elsewhere.

[BearsFanInMN]

For depth it's not a terrible signing, but at the same time very uninspiring. I know front offices won't sign Kaepernick, but I would've liked the signing more.

I can understand fans not being inspired about our replacements for Cutler. Pace reminds me of a GM that doesn't get what people want when they say they want Cutler replaced. It's like a story my wife told me where a kid wanted a Minnesota Timberwolves shirt, and the mom bought one of those cheesy wildlife shirts of an actual wolf.

[wab]

I'm pretty sure the Bears are just going to abstain from the whole draft at this point.

[Boris13c]

um ..... yay?

seriously, I now have absolutely no idea what the plans for this team really are, or even if they have a plan

1 thing I know for absolute certainty - if your plan includes the signing of, and accolades for, Mark Sanchez, then you do not adequately understand what the word "plan" means nor have a grasp of the concept of one

[Funkster]

I think the plan is pretty well spelled out.

1. Turnover the roster with "their" players via the draft.
2. Build a top 5 defense.
3. Rely on a strong running game.
4. Protect the football on offense.
5. Use FA to fill positions of needs on short term contracts.

[G08]

I think the plan is pretty well spelled out.

1. Turnover the roster with "their" players via the draft.
2. Build a top 5 defense.
3. Rely on a strong running game.
4. Protect the football on offense.
5. Use FA to fill positions of needs on short term contracts.

I'd say this is pretty spot on.

[Boris13c]

I think the plan is pretty well spelled out.

1. Turnover the roster with "their" players via the draft.
2. Build a top 5 defense.
3. Rely on a strong running game.
4. Protect the football on offense.
5. Use FA to fill positions of needs on short term contracts.

if that is truly their plan, then

I simply find it hard to stomach Mark Sanchez as part of the implementation of that plan

here's to hoping Glennon establishes himself as the #1 and is healthy all year

[docc]

I think the plan is pretty well spelled out.

1. Turnover the roster with "their" players via the draft.
2. Build a top 5 defense.
3. Rely on a strong running game.
4. Protect the football on offense.
5. Use FA to fill positions of needs on short term contracts.

Agree..

Transitional year (years !)..

Just get it done while I am still alive

[britbear]

Like most of you I just don't get any of this. Pace said in Jan that he understood the importance of sorting out the QB position. He also said no stone would be left unturned. And he said he was looking for a QB that would elevate the program.

Glennon may be that man, but who can know for sure when the guy hasn't started for 2 years?

Sanchez is ABSOLUTELY NOT that man. Not even close.

Step forward Connor Shaw. Could you be that guy? Really? No, thought not.

Then we have the fact that the Bears sent everyone who's someone in the organisation to Clemson to see Watson. And now they're looking to have a closer look at Kizer. Is this all a smoke screen?

I don't know... I'm reserving judgement until after the draft. But come January will we look back on the day Pace signed Sanchez as the day he lost his job?

[docc]

Mahomes in round 2 ?

[Funkster]

Sanchez is the back up QB, period. For the life of me, I can't understand the freak out!

[britbear]

Sanchez is the back up QB, period. For the life of me, I can't understand the freak out!

Because Pace is on record saying that he believes in drafting a QB each draft, but has not done so. So with the #3 and #36 picks in his hand, most of us assumed that he would go QB with one of those. But if Glennon is the anointed starter and Sanchez is the back up, where does that leave any rookie? The fear is that Pace is done at QB for 2017 and there will be no rookie.

This for a franchise that has lost its #1 WR and its QB, is coming off a 3-13 season and is desperate for a marquee name it can pin its hopes for the future on.

Pace and Fox said 3-13 would not happen again. Sure thing. Feels like they're aiming for 2-14!

[malk]

Sanchez is the back up QB, period. For the life of me, I can't understand the freak out!

Sanchez is proven shit. Absolute, categorical, turd.

We're paying him more than the minimum.

This is fucking stupid.

I liked Pace because his drafting has been decent but I'm now at the stage where I don't think he understands what it takes to build an NFL team. He doesn't understand contract value in the new contract era and that's just fatal.

[docc]

Sancheese ??

[Funkster]

This draft is so mixed on which QB's are top 10. I see no problem securing the QB position for a season. See what QB Pace drafts and go from there. Pace saying he knows the importance of a franchise QB and getting that position right and the moves he has made toward that, shows me he has a plan and a style of QB he wants for the long term. If that means waiting a season or two until that QB becomes available is fine by me. The win now and bandaiding problems is what got the Bears into this positions.

[Mikefive]

I think the plan is pretty well spelled out.

1. Turnover the roster with "their" players via the draft.
2. Build a top 5 defense.
3. Rely on a strong running game.
4. Protect the football on offense.
5. Use FA to fill positions of needs on short term contracts.

Good list. But you missed the biggest one of all.

6. Get rid of malcontents and guys who aren't on board with the program, no matter how good they play.

[malk]

I think the plan is pretty well spelled out.

1. Turnover the roster with "their" players via the draft.
2. Build a top 5 defense.
3. Rely on a strong running game.
4. Protect the football on offense.
5. Use FA to fill positions of needs on short term contracts.

Good list. But you missed the biggest one of all.

6. Get rid of malcontents and guys who aren't on board with the program, no matter how good they play.

What about:

7. Fill said position of need with the worst active QB in the league at above minimum salary.
8. Take away practice snaps from developmental QBs to ensure the worst active QB is ready to be awful and not regress to worse than awful.

[Funkster]

Or how about Sanchez has 72 starts under his belt and playoff experience. Or how about he could mentor developmental QB.

[malk]

Or how about Sanchez has 72 starts under his belt and playoff experience. Or how about he could mentor developmental QB.

62 of which were by mere virtue of him being a 1st round draft pick, or do you think the Jets kept starting him to miss throws, throw interceptions and waste their defence?

But that mentoring ability will come in handy for Shaw who will get virtually zero snaps as the 3rd stringer. Sanchez will show him just how to hold a clipboard.

[Funkster]

Or how about Sanchez has 72 starts under his belt and playoff experience. Or how about he could mentor developmental QB.

62 of which were by mere virtue of him being a 1st round draft pick, or do you think the Jets kept starting him to miss throws, throw interceptions and waste their defence?

But that mentoring ability will come in handy for Shaw who will get virtually zero snaps as the 3rd stringer. Sanchez will show him just how to hold a clipboard.

For a minute there I thought you were talking about Cutler.

If you think a back up or a player like Shaw just holds a "clipboard" you're very misinformed.

[G08]

A 3rd stringer like Shaw gets 0 reps in practice -- none.

[wab]

Shaw literally gets paid to hold a clipboard (iPad) and that's it. He shows the starter coverages when he comes to the sideline. He gets no reps. Not a single one during the regular season.