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I don't know how to feel passionate about the Bears/football in general if I hate the QB.

This kid has, literally, everything I want from an athletic standpoint in a QB. From all accounts he's a good-hearted, team-first dude who isn't afraid to work. What more can you ask for out of a rookie?
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G08 wrote:I don't know how to feel passionate about the Bears/football in general if I hate the QB.

This kid has, literally, everything I want from an athletic standpoint in a QB. From all accounts he's a good-hearted, team-first dude who isn't afraid to work. What more can you ask for out of a rookie?
Personally, I just pray Glennon is good enough to start 16 games this year. Give Trubisky 1 more offseason to perfect his craft and learn a pro offense, give Pace 1 more draft to shore up the O-line and possibly WR (Unless White and Meredith take the next step) and any of the other glaring holes on this roster and then hopefully watch Trubisky shine!! He has said and done all the right things and hopefully becomes a fan favorite for many, many years.
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HurricaneBear wrote:If people are still being negative about Trubisky then they need to get over it. In my lifetime the Bears haven't had a better chance at a franchise QB. It doesn't matter if he wasn't the guy you wanted, or you think they gave up too much, or any other of the BS that was talked about during the draft. Trubisky is the future of the Bears right now and its time to jump on the bandwagon. If he busts we can all go back to being miserable like we've been the last few years. If he doesn't we may have a franchise QB for the first time ever. if that doesn't get you excited as a fan nothing will.

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Hematite wrote:
G08 wrote:I don't know how to feel passionate about the Bears/football in general if I hate the QB.

This kid has, literally, everything I want from an athletic standpoint in a QB. From all accounts he's a good-hearted, team-first dude who isn't afraid to work. What more can you ask for out of a rookie?
Personally, I just pray Glennon is good enough to start 16 games this year. Give Trubisky 1 more offseason to perfect his craft and learn a pro offense, give Pace 1 more draft to shore up the O-line and possibly WR (Unless White and Meredith take the next step) and any of the other glaring holes on this roster and then hopefully watch Trubisky shine!! He has said and done all the right things and hopefully becomes a fan favorite for many, many years.
Go8 and Hematite I gotta agree with you both.
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G08 wrote:I don't know how to feel passionate about the Bears/football in general if I hate the QB.

I can go along with this

there were some Bears QB's who weren't really very good who I actually liked anyway, like Bobby Douglass - the bull in a china shop FB/TE who played QB for the Bears for some time ... never got a lot of high end results but he was entertaining (still pissed Micheal Vick broke his rushing record, though it did take Vick 16 games) ... I also liked Bob Avellini, another "just a guy" type QB who was marginally talented

Cutler was so schizophrenic I could love or hate him multiple different times in the same game ... Grossman was worse in that regard

I'm thinking Trubisky will be a welcome breath of fresh air at the position and someone we can all rally around ... which will be nice
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I wade carefully into the pool of excitement...because I was once super excited about Cade McNown.
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G08 wrote:I don't know how to feel passionate about the Bears/football in general if I hate the QB.
You've been a fan for at least 10 yrs and haven't learned that yet???

That's pages 3-7 of the orientation manual.
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wab wrote:I wade carefully into the pool of excitement...because I was once super excited about Cade McNown.
Wab your a man of brass balls to admit a former Cade crush. ;-)
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Moriarty wrote:
G08 wrote:I don't know how to feel passionate about the Bears/football in general if I hate the QB.
You've been a fan for at least 10 yrs and haven't learned that yet???

That's pages 3-7 of the orientation manual.
I've been a fan for 25 years and I am excited for every QB until they beat it out of me after many poor seasons. Even then I don't hate the guy I just want the team to move on. Maybe it's just you.
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VA_Mountain_Bear wrote:
wab wrote:I wade carefully into the pool of excitement...because I was once super excited about Cade McNown.
Wab your a man of brass balls to admit a former Cade crush. ;-)
C'mon. The guy pukes coming out of the huddle and wants to keep playing. What's not to like? :-P
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wab wrote:I wade carefully into the pool of excitement...because I was once super excited about Cade McNown.
Cade also had a little bit of an arrogant personality trait while he was at UCLA that wasn't in the confident, "I got this" variety. He had a sense of entitlement and rubbed people the wrong way in college and it transferred to the pros. That and he just wasn't talented enough to play in the NFL. I always questioned his size and arm strength and it proved to be something he couldn't overcome.

With Mitch, I sense a guy coming in with a humble, hard working attitude - by all accounts and reports he was loved by his teammates and coaches at UNC. He also has the physical traits to back up the leadership as well - I think these are very different circumstances than McNown. But I do get your point. We're all trained to be cautiously optimistic - we've been burned too many times before.
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Sometimes I see myself on film going back to my old footwork at North Carolina, and that’s just muscle memory,” Trubisky said. “So I’m trying to get rid of those habits and just get into the new footwork, because if I do what I’m coached to do here, I’ll be successful, and that’s what I do. I come out here, I try to be as coachable a player as possible, and it’s all going to come within the offense. So if I stay within the offense, do my job, hopefully good things happen.

"[But] they’re not really messing with [my throwing motion]. It’s more of my footwork. My throwing motion is what it is. I got a quick release and I could throw the ball accurately as long as I bring my feet with me. So that’s what coach says: Do the footwork, bring your feet with you, get through your progression and use your eyes well. So as long as my shoulders are level and I pull through with my hips, the ball should be where it’s supposed to go.”
All the more reason I don't want to rush this kid onto the field.
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DaSuperfan wrote:Cade also had a little bit of an arrogant personality trait while he was at UCLA that wasn't in the confident, "I got this" variety.
a little bit arrogant? he was a total douche in college, and accelerated his douche-ness once the Bears dumped millions in his lap

but, he's the one living on easy street, not us ... so maybe his plan all along was to simply collect a huge payday then simply never do anything else, which included actually playing the game he was being paid to play ... so he gets a thumbs up for being a pretty good con man
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Right now I'm just happy the stories in the press about Trubisky are about learning the playbook and his dedication to practice and not about VIP appearances in nightclubs. Right now I'll take the little things and build up to the big things.
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I don't think attitude or a lack of effort will be an issue with this kid.

I just hope to God we surround him with the best offensive minds we can AND keep them together for the duration of his career.
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G08 wrote:I don't think attitude or a lack of effort will be an issue with this kid.

I just hope to God we surround him with the best offensive minds we can AND keep them together for the duration of his career.

that is the scariest part of this equation - can the Bears organization get their act together and develop a QB they drafted? last one with success was McMahon ... Harbaugh was on that same path until he got in Ditka's doghouse ... since then, it has been free agents or trades that brought QB's to Chicago, with very mixed results

in Trubisky, they seem to have a good student who has the ability to learn and the abilities to utilize ... and as you pointed out, attitude or lack of effort are not issues ... so they have selected someone who appears to be a very apt QB to nurture and lead into the future

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Boris13c wrote: Dear Bears - please don't fuck this up
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Boris13c wrote: Dear Bears - please don't fuck this up
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~ sigh .... we all know that ... and this article only enforces the history as being the present

The more Mitch Trubisky talks, the dumber the Bears look
The more you listen to Mitch Trubisky, the dumber the Bears sound.

Trubisky doesn’t mean to have it come out stupid. It just does. Because it always seems to come out that way when Bears get involved with quarterbacks.

Trubisky said Tuesday he’s getting snaps with the second string because Mark Sanchez suffered an injury and he might be getting more snaps than before.

Just in case you didn’t think the Bears’ quarterback plan wasn’t the dumbest thing, let’s recap:

Trubisky, the quarterback for whom the Bears stunningly traded up from third overall to second because he apparently has what GM Ryan Pace believes is generational talent, was buried with the third-stringers because the Bears ranked Sanchez, a guy who’s hopeless or useless, take your pick, ahead of him.

That’s some thinking, huh?

But wait. There’s more. Trubisky and Sanchez were slotted behind Mike Glennon, an $18 million placeholder who has thrown 11 passes since 2014 but was declared the starter because, I don’t know, the Bears don’t believe in competing, and their three wins last year might underscore that.

Look, the snaps Trubisky gets now are still fewer than he ever should’ve been getting under this cockamamie plan. Sanchez was never going to play for this team in a game unless the Bears decided to tank for the top draft pick in 2018.

What’s more, if the Bears were going to pay such a premium for a quarterback in the draft, then Glennon shouldn’t have been signed and declared the starter because Glennon was always going to take snaps that had a better future with Trubisky.
I understand Glennon getting more snaps ... he IS the declared starter for 2017 ... no way in hell Butt Fumble should have been

Maybe this plan works out perfectly for the Bears and Trubisky is terrific next season despite plans to prevent him from playing with the adults this season. I’ll concede that possibility, even if I have zero faith it’ll happen because this appears to be a perfect new chapter in this franchise’s storied history at the game’s most important position:

Only the Bears can make the biggest move of the draft to grab a quarterback of the future and then make sure they stunt his present.
I can tell the writer of this article is a true fan because he feels the pain we all have felt, in particular with the QB position ... and because he is expressing the fear we all have that this could all go badly in ways only the Bears can create
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Rosenbloom is kind of a paid troll, ya know? It's a fine line between satire and just being a bitter fuck, and he does a poor job of walking that line, IMO.

Trubisky isn't ready, just like the #1 overall pick last season wasn't ready (and clearly still wasn't ready come week 10...) that's just the nature of college QBs right now. The Dak Prescott's and Russell Wilsons are rare.

Let the kid sit and LEARN his job before throwing him out to the wolves -- I'm of the opinion he will have a much greater shot at success if he masters his footwork, reads, NFL defenses, etc before you trot him out there with 4-6+ dudes looking to rip his head off every snap.
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G08 wrote:Rosenbloom is kind of a paid troll, ya know? It's a fine line between satire and just being a bitter fuck, and he does a poor job of walking that line, IMO.
I like Rosenbloom's WSCR Saturday show, but god I despise his writing. It's pure trolling.
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G08 wrote:Rosenbloom is kind of a paid troll, ya know? It's a fine line between satire and just being a bitter fuck, and he does a poor job of walking that line, IMO.
I like Rosenbloom's WSCR Saturday show, but god I despise his writing. It's pure trolling.
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G08 wrote:Rosenbloom is kind of a paid troll, ya know? It's a fine line between satire and just being a bitter fuck, and he does a poor job of walking that line, IMO.
yeah I know ... but I thought he made at least 1 good point in all of this

G08 wrote:Trubisky isn't ready, just like the #1 overall pick last season wasn't ready (and clearly still wasn't ready come week 10...) that's just the nature of college QBs right now. The Dak Prescott's and Russell Wilsons are rare.

Let the kid sit and LEARN his job before throwing him out to the wolves -- I'm of the opinion he will have a much greater shot at success if he masters his footwork, reads, NFL defenses, etc before you trot him out there with 4-6+ dudes looking to rip his head off every snap.
I agree completely

I agree with Glennon, the 2017 starter, getting the most reps in practice

what I do not agree with is Butt Fumble Sanchez taking snaps away from Trubisky, which is the point in Rosenbloom's article I 100% agree with ... Sanchez should be behind Trubisky in priority of practice reps because I believe it is more important for Trubisky's development and do not believe any amount of practice will help Sanchez be any better at anything ... if Sanchez is playing for the Bears at any point in the regular season, things have gone horribly wrong ... I actually hope he is not even on the roster
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I think it's a function of "hey, this kid clearly isn't ready yet". So if we make him QB2 and Glennon goes down, Trubisky gets thrown into the fire.

I have a feeling Trubisky will be QB3 and inactive for a solid chunk of this season, and I'm okay with that. Once we see him bumped up to QB2, I think that will be a sign to us that he is ready to get in and play if needed.

I'm anticipating he plays in a few games after the bye week (9). It might be garbage time in blow outs to start off, which is fine with me, it'll allow him to get in and out of the huddle, see an NFL defense, etc. I'd have to think he definitely starts week 16 at home against the Browns. Week 17 on the road against the Vikings could be a tough one as your first start.
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Ironically, Trubisky went from someone who "hasn't played enough" to someone who can now "benefit from sitting." #NFLLogic


While this is worded in a clever way, in order to get a point across. It doesn't hold up to me. Trubisky's lack of experience definitely lends more towards him being a candidate better suited to sit for a while. He just got up on his feet in college last year. Let's not throw too much in his face. Things must be moving so fast for him right now.

I want Trubisky to be ITCHING to get out there when he finally does. I want no stone gone unturned. I want the weekly repetition of the NFL to be a complete bore to him. I want him to know how to run the offense in his sleep.
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A thought. What happens to the pressure on Glennon during the season if during the pre-season Glennon does okay during his time in with the starters, but when Trubisky comes with the second string and the guys just trying to make the team he lights it up?
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staleystarch wrote:A thought. What happens to the pressure on Glennon during the season if during the pre-season Glennon does okay during his time in with the starters, but when Trubisky comes with the second string and the guys just trying to make the team he lights it up?
Hopefully Glennon doesn't feel any pressure. Because the last thing we want is for pencil neck to try and force things. He needs to manage the football and not lose games. The guys around him are capable of making plays and he can ride them to success.

I equate Glennon to Alex Smith with a slightly better arm. A poor man's Flacco. He's not a guy to hoist the team on his shoulders and will a victory by sheer determination. We need to run the ball and let him get creative off play action or utilize plays with quick reads and high percentage routes.
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staleystarch wrote:A thought. What happens to the pressure on Glennon during the season if during the pre-season Glennon does okay during his time in with the starters, but when Trubisky comes with the second string and the guys just trying to make the team he lights it up?
Hopefully Glennon doesn't feel any pressure. Because the last thing we want is for pencil neck to try and force things. He needs to manage the football and not lose games. The guys around him are capable of making plays and he can ride them to success.

I equate Glennon to Alex Smith with a slightly better arm. A poor man's Flacco. He's not a guy to hoist the team on his shoulders and will a victory by sheer determination. We need to run the ball and let him get creative off play action or utilize plays with quick reads and high percentage routes.
Alex Smith threw a 55 mph ball at his combine, Glennon threw a 49 mph ball. Joe Flacco threw a 55 mph ball in his combine. I have seen the Flacco/Glennon comparision before but the only place they are really comparable is their size.
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Glennon has a better arm than Alex Smith. Flacco's is by far the best of that bunch.
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Glennon shouldn't be feeling any pressure other than to live up to his starting job specifications. If he simply does his job rather than worry about others, the team will benefit.

Of course he could always be feeling the pressure of opposing defenders should Massie be a turnstyle again and the Bears not have a replacement. But the potential woes of the offensive line should probably be a thread of its own.

And it isn't going to matter how much Trubisky lights things up, Glennon is our 2017 starter (until he isn't). What Trubisky doing well will accomplish is the release of Butt Fumble, whose signing never should have happened.
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