Rumors of Jon Gruden coaching the Bears in 2018?

[Wounded Bear]

Recently I've noticed several articles on the interwebs about Jon Gruden getting the coaching itch again and several sports writers have been engaging in supposition in regards to Gruden coaching the Beloved.

At first, I didn't think much of it, but in one of the articles it asked the question:


Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?


Although much of John Fox's fate with the Bears depends on the performance of the squad this year, if the Bears have another dismal year, Gruden may not be a bad option, especially in the context of developing Trubisky.

Gruden/Chicago Bears Articles:
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[staleystarch]

Recently I've noticed several articles on the interwebs about Jon Gruden getting the coaching itch again and several sports writers have been engaging in supposition in regards to Gruden coaching the Beloved.

At first, I didn't think much of it, but in one of the articles it asked the question:


Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?


Although much of John Fox's fate with the Bears depends on the performance of the squad this year, if the Bears have another dismal year, Gruden may not be a bad option, especially in the context of developing Trubisky.

Gruden/Chicago Bears Articles:
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ro ... olumn.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://profootballspot.com/could-jon-gr ... s-in-2018/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't think Gruden is bland enough for the McCaskeys. I also think writers need the season to start so they actually don't have to dream up stuff to write about, especially since Jay Curler's body language has moved to Miami.

[mshu7]

No. Absolutely, no!

[UOK]

I don't see it. I think the organization really likes Fox, and unless the team quits on him (won't happen) or he decides he won't do it anymore (or has another heart attack), he'll be given a modest extension - 2, 3 years. Something like that.

I doubt Fox would've been convinced to come to Chicago knowing he'd probably have to endure a few years of turnaround if it meant he got shitcanned the second the roster starts to take shape. He trusts Pace. Pace trusts him. McCaskeys trust both guys.

Gruden would be a bit too radical for them, honestly, especially since Fox isn't a lame duck coach (to me at this moment anyway).

[Boris13c]

I agree with UOK ... Fox is going to be allowed to reap the benefits of the roster rebuild unless the team totally implodes, which might then cost Fox and Pace their jobs

the Bears will be improved this year, perhaps even good, and it is only going to get better

Fox will retire after he sees Trubisky hoist the Super Bowl trophy in 2019 or 2020

[UOK]

I agree with UOK ... Fox is going to be allowed to reap the benefits of the roster rebuild unless the team totally implodes, which might then cost Fox and Pace their jobs

the Bears will be improved this year, perhaps even good, and it is only going to get better

Fox will retire after he sees Trubisky hoist the Super Bowl trophy in 2019 or 2020

Don't see Pace or Fox getting fired until maybe 2020 at the earliest. Trubisky bought him another couple years beyond this one at least.

[Mikefive]

I think Pace is safe. But if we win 3-4 games again--and maybe 5-6, Foxie is out. The McKnuckleheads are goofs, but they do know dollars and cents. If Soldier is half empty in December like it was last year when I was at the SF game, they'll pull the trigger.

Did anybody see that you can get tix on Stubhub for the Cleveland preseason game--yes, it's the 4th preseason game and the starters won't play much--for $7. Seven dollars, less than 10% of face, I think. People are practically giving tickets away. That's not good... Especially for Foxie. I'm thinking about going, so I can see a lot of Trubisky in early action.

[Mikefive]

On the topic, I think it would be fun and interesting to see Gruden coaching the Bears. But I agree with most views above that he's not buttoned down enough for Bears management.

[Otis Day]

I think Pace is safe. But if we win 3-4 games again--and maybe 5-6, Foxie is out. The McKnuckleheads are goofs, but they do know dollars and cents. If Soldier is half empty in December like it was last year when I was at the SF game, they'll pull the trigger.

Did anybody see that you can get tix on Stubhub for the Cleveland preseason game--yes, it's the 4th preseason game and the starters won't play much--for $7. Seven dollars, less than 10% of face, I think. People are practically giving tickets away. That's not good... Especially for Foxie. I'm thinking about going, so I can see a lot of Trubisky in early action.

Whether the seats are empty or not they are paid for and the McClaskeys are still pocketing that money.

I have never seen tickets so cheap. I bought tickets for the 12/3 9er suckfest for a little over $40. I have never spent less than $85 for tickets, ever!! I have been trying to go regularly since '05. I resorted to going to St Louis 3 times as tickets there are half the price.

Regarding Gruden, meh, to use the term of the day, "fake news."

[UOK]

If Soldier is half empty in December like it was last year when I was at the SF game, they'll pull the trigger.

My take on this is that if the Bears are another 3-4 win team, the attendance won't be NEARLY as bad if you have Trubisky starting. That alone could counter any dismal shitshow of a season, because at least you're giving fans something to hope for going forward.

Last year was something of an anomaly, one that cannot be repeated under any circumstances. If everybody gets hurt again, that's less a sign you need to fire Fox and more a sign you need to completely re-evaluate your playing surface on both the practice facilities and Soldier Field (will never, ever happen), conditioning routine, player diets/hyrdation, and reform technique. Only so much you can do regarding all of that, when the honest truth is that knees and brains aren't meant to deal with NFL football.

[o-pus #40 in B major]

Gruden was mentioned by some as a possible replacement for Lovie, too, but I think its another lead balloon. If he wanted to return to coaching he could have done it long before now. He's got a ring, he gets to look cute and babble on TV for easy money, no reason to jump back into the grind.

[Boris13c]

Gruden was mentioned by some as a possible replacement for Lovie, too, but I think its another lead balloon. If he wanted to return to coaching he could have done it long before now. He's got a ring, he gets to look cute and babble on TV for easy money, no reason to jump back into the grind.

if he had been the replacement for Lovie, perhaps the team would not have dropped so far into the sewer ... but the Bears chose a different path (a losing one as it turned out)

[staleystarch]

I think Pace is safe. But if we win 3-4 games again--and maybe 5-6, Foxie is out. The McKnuckleheads are goofs, but they do know dollars and cents. If Soldier is half empty in December like it was last year when I was at the SF game, they'll pull the trigger.

Did anybody see that you can get tix on Stubhub for the Cleveland preseason game--yes, it's the 4th preseason game and the starters won't play much--for $7. Seven dollars, less than 10% of face, I think. People are practically giving tickets away. That's not good... Especially for Foxie. I'm thinking about going, so I can see a lot of Trubisky in early action.

Whether the seats are empty or not they are paid for and the McClaskeys are still pocketing that money.

I have never seen tickets so cheap. I bought tickets for the 12/3 9er suckfest for a little over $40. I have never spent less than $85 for tickets, ever!! I have been trying to go regularly since '05. I resorted to going to St Louis 3 times as tickets there are half the price.

Regarding Gruden, meh, to use the term of the day, "fake news."

I don't know how much if any of the concession income goes to the Bears but I would think that could be some significant income loss if not enough fans are there to buy.

[Wounded Bear]

I dont' know if I agree or not with the argument that Gruden is too radical for the Bears. I'll agree that the coaches of late have been pretty conservative of late, but when you look at when the Bears had the most success, both Ditka and Ryan were coaches of the Bears. Those dudes weren't exactly button down collar types - or are we saying that was more of Papa Bear's influence and the McCaskeys' would never go that direction?

All I know is if we wanted to return to the heyday of the Bears, a day where the Bears have serious attitude, Jon Gruden would try to deliver that type of product to the fans. Whether you like or dislike Gruden, that would put asses in the seats, which is always a sound business model.

[Rusty Trombagent]

Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?

i like dowell though.

[staleystarch]

I dont' know if I agree or not with the argument that Gruden is too radical for the Bears. I'll agree that the coaches of late have been pretty conservative of late, but when you look at when the Bears had the most success, both Ditka and Ryan were coaches of the Bears. Those dudes weren't exactly button down collar types - or are we saying that was more of Papa Bear's influence and the McCaskeys' would never go that direction?

All I know is if we wanted to return to the heyday of the Bears, a day where the Bears have serious attitude, Jon Gruden would try to deliver that type of product to the fans. Whether you like or dislike Gruden, that would put asses in the seats, which is always a sound business model.

I'd say it was more George Halas. He was not exactly button down himself.

[Middleguard]

Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?

Will someone please remind me what Gruden's major QB accomplishments have been.

[wab]

Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?

Will someone please remind me what Gruden's major QB accomplishments have been.

He made Rich Gannon ok for a season.

[Mikefive]

Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?

Will someone please remind me what Gruden's major QB accomplishments have been.

Won a Super Bowl. 95-81 W-L record.

[Wounded Bear]

Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?

i like dowell though.

I do too. I think he is much maligned, but we had a pretty decent running game and decent passing game when you consider we had tons of injuries at QB and the wideout position last year as well as a patchwork of personnel playing on the offensive line. Considering all of the injuries last year, I felt his play design and effectiveness was on par with Gase.

[Wounded Bear]

Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?

Will someone please remind me what Gruden's major QB accomplishments have been.

He worked as an Assistant Offensive Coordinator for Green Bay on the 1990's and was instrumental in getting Brett Favre under control.

[Rusty Trombagent]

Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?

i like dowell though.

I do too. I think he is much maligned, but we had a pretty decent running game and decent passing game when you consider we had tons of injuries at QB and the wideout position last year as well as a patchwork of personnel playing on the offensive line. Considering all of the injuries last year, I felt his play design and effectiveness was on par with Gase.

and he's shown, through cutler/hoyer/barkley and now glennon/trubisky, that he's 100% willing to tailor his playcalling to the strengths of whoever is under center.

i want to see him continue to grow as an OC with us.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I think that Jim Harbaugh has a better chance of leaving Michigan to come coach the Bears, than Gruden does leaving the booth to come here.

[bearsfaninaz]

Who would you want coaching up a young QB talent like Mitch Trubisky? John Fox/Dowell Loggains or Jon Gruden?

i like dowell though.

I do too. I think he is much maligned, but we had a pretty decent running game and decent passing game when you consider we had tons of injuries at QB and the wideout position last year as well as a patchwork of personnel playing on the offensive line. Considering all of the injuries last year, I felt his play design and effectiveness was on par with Gase.

and he's shown, through cutler/hoyer/barkley and now glennon/trubisky, that he's 100% willing to tailor his playcalling to the strengths of whoever is under center.

i want to see him continue to grow as an OC with us.

I agree. Loggains is becoming a good OC. I like how he gameplans for each QB. Hopefully he keeps it up.

[o-pus #40 in B major]

He definitely knew the right plays to call for Trubisky's debut.

I can't see any reason to mess with our HC or coordinators. I think they'll get our shit in order before long. Patience is well-rewarded, I always say.