Hot upcoming coaching candidates?

Boris13c · Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:10 pm

Bad Flanders wrote:Soooo.... what about Dowell??? or Fangio???

Dowell looks like comedian Patton Oswalt ... and it would make sense for a team that is a comedy of errors be led by a comedian

so screw Loggains - Patton Oswalt for Head Coach!

dplank · Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:28 pm

Been pushing the Patton Oswalt thing for a couple years now lmao...

He's his doppelganger.

Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:37 pm

Not gonna lie, the whole looks thing is mildly not so useful as an argument. I wouldn't care if the Bears were full of the ugliest bastards in the NFL.

It's when they play (or coach) like shit that the aesthetics become ammunition to pile on, and that I really don't have much of a problem with.

Wounded Bear · Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:15 pm

BR0D1E86 wrote:
dplank wrote:I'd take Josh Daniels in a heart beat.

Also, Stoops.
For as bad as he crapped the bed the first time around, I'd imagine he learned from it. And he wouldn't have personnel control here.

I'd be on board.

Yeah, I keep thinking about how shitty Bill Belichick was the first time around in Cleveland. I have to imagine that after you fail like that the first time around, you probably spend an awful lot of time sitting around and thinking about all of the things you should have done and could have done differently.

Mikefive · Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:08 pm

In my dream world, we move on to an offensive type guy... Put me on the Jim Bob Cooter bandwagon sooner or later... Giving Biscuit a more solid offensive staff to develop under... and keeping Vic Fangio, giving him a raise and letting him do his thing as DC.

I don't want Dowell Loggains. I'd like someone to come from a successful organization. Loggains being with the Titans and Bears, doesn't really fill the bill.

Mikefive · Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:10 pm

I don't know about dismissing one time failures out of hand. Bill Belichek was one of those once.

G08 · Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:20 pm

Here's the article about Josh McDaniels I was talking about:

The Redemption of Josh McDaniels (from 2016)

DaSuperfan · Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:30 am

How about Jim Harbaugh? He'd be tough to pry away from Michigan and I'm not sure how he'd get along with Pace, but I think he'd be a great selection. He's always said it'd be his NFL dream job to coach the team that drafted him. An added bonus would be that there'd probably be a higher chance of Fangio sticking around as well.

alexwilkins · Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:14 am

I'm a big fan of Todd Haley. He's an offensive mind with a defensive personality.

Adipost · Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:52 am

DaSuperfan wrote:How about Jim Harbaugh? He'd be tough to pry away from Michigan and I'm not sure how he'd get along with Pace, but I think he'd be a great selection. He's always said it'd be his NFL dream job to coach the team that drafted him. An added bonus would be that there'd probably be a higher chance of Fangio sticking around as well.

If Harbaugh comes back to the NFL, Irsay will give him a blank check and part ownership to reunite with Andrew Luck in Indy.

Bears Whiskey Nut · Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:49 am

G08 wrote:Here's the article about Josh McDaniels I was talking about:

The Redemption of Josh McDaniels (from 2016)

I thought about Joshy-boy, but I didn't know if he was still the prick that got run out of Denver. As another poster said, Belichick had his challenges the first few years as a HC.

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Mikefive · Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:53 am

DaSuperfan wrote:How about Jim Harbaugh? He'd be tough to pry away from Michigan and I'm not sure how he'd get along with Pace, but I think he'd be a great selection. He's always said it'd be his NFL dream job to coach the team that drafted him. An added bonus would be that there'd probably be a higher chance of Fangio sticking around as well.

I'd take Harbaugh in a heartbeat. But I don't think that's realistic any time soon.

Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:56 am

I think Harbaugh would be a good fit here, but the McCaskeys would be leery of hiring him, for reasons both financial and philosophical. They'd rather have someone they could comfortably know would respect the hierarchy. I have no idea what kind of coach Pace would want, but I suspect Sean Payton would be on his short list. Not who I'd hire, though. He'd want too much control.

Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:01 am

I think (assume?) Pace wants someone with a similar mindset. I think we all agreed that wasn't Fox when he was hired, but we also knew that Fox was hired to bring stability and credibility. I think to an extent he did that, but it didn't translate to wins (and stability/wins aren't mutually exclusive). He was brought in to fix the locker room and I think he did that as well.

In retrospect, the Fox hire was never really about wins, it was about fixing the broken things off the field. The next coach will inherit a strong locker room and some young talent.

G08 · Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:07 am

Well... if we look at the McDaniels angle... we have a QB that is tremendously accurate (a la Tom Brady) while being much more mobile, we have (perhaps) a Gronk Jr. in Adam Shaheen... we have a decent running game and our WRs currently are shit but I'm expecting an overhaul heading into next season (Jeffery didn't seem like a Patriots WR type).

Dude is a bright mind that has been brought up around arguably the greatest NFL coach/mind ever... and he's a youngster with some spunk a la Sean Payton. Lots of parallels...

I am excite.

Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:08 am

I personally just don't like McDaniels. I think he's a bag of dicks.

Atkins&Rebel · Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:15 am

Aside from McDaniels being a bag of dicks, what's he done without Tom Brady and a great defense backing him up?

The guy I'd want from NE is Patricia. If Fangio decides that he can't stay and work under him, then Patricia is still a base 3-4 guy and we don't lose much from the direction this defense has been built. There are more good offensive coordinators out there than defensive coordinators. and if we have our head coach making calls from the sidelines, I'd rather him call the defense than the offense.

Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:26 am

Atkins&Rebel wrote:There are more good offensive coordinators out there than defensive coordinators

This.

G08 · Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:52 am

I dig the idea of a defensive coordinator as a HC, it ties into our (dated, IMO) image of being a defense-first team. But... what if the OC he hires is dogshit? Or, what if he's another Adam Gase where he's gone after a year or two?

I'm of the opinion everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, should be decided with Mitch Trubisky in mind. That points me directly to a brilliant offensive mind that knows how to run a team (not another Trestman, Marc).

Bad Flanders · Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:28 pm

wab wrote:I personally just don't like McDaniels. I think he's a bag of dicks.

mmmc_35 · Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:41 pm

Fox, Pagano, and Bowles staffs are the most likely to be fired. The Bears and Colts have a young talented QB. The Colts have a new GM but have a crazy owner. I would probably lean towards the Colts as a better job.

I wouldn't mind Bowles as a DC if McDaniels was brought it.

G08 · Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:05 pm

mmmc_35 wrote:Fox, Pagano, and Bowles staffs are the most likely to be fired. The Bears and Colts have a young talented QB. The Colts have a new GM but have a crazy owner. I would probably lean towards the Colts as a better job.

I wouldn't mind Bowles as a DC if McDaniels was brought it.

I could live with and would love that. Bowles runs a 3-4 the way I want it run...

docc · Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:21 pm

McDaniels was an absolute asshole and horrible as a HC..and like been said. He won't have The Emperor Palpatine or
St.Tom Brady and all that consistent talent..
There will be better offers for bag of dicks.. A team with some talent ready to compete..

We are in deep shit..we need someone taking a chance on shoveling us out..

Mikefive · Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:14 pm

G08 wrote:I dig the idea of a defensive coordinator as a HC, it ties into our (dated, IMO) image of being a defense-first team. But... what if the OC he hires is dogshit? Or, what if he's another Adam Gase where he's gone after a year or two?

I'm of the opinion everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, should be decided with Mitch Trubisky in mind. That points me directly to a brilliant offensive mind that knows how to run a team (not another Trestman, Marc).

I entirely agree with the way you put this. I too like defense first, particularly considering our outdoor stadium climate. But if I'm making a decision this offseason, I'm going with an offensive coach to groom the most important asset we have. And as I said before, don't fire Vic Fangio, so that the new guy can keep him to maintain some continuity in our improving defense.

Also, the talk of promoting coordinators from the always competitive Pats is tempting, but how often has that actually worked out well? Pretty low percentage play historically.

o-pus #40 in B major · Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:46 pm

Everybody remembers how NE got Belichick, right?

this from Wikipedia:

...he was introduced as the Patriots' 12th full-time head coach, succeeding the recently fired Pete Carroll. The Patriots had tried to hire him away from Parcells/the Jets in the past. Parcells and the Jets claimed that Belichick was still under contract to the Jets, and demanded compensation from the Patriots. NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue agreed, and the Patriots gave the Jets a first-round draft pick in 2000 in exchange for the right to hire Belichick.[19]

I remember a lot of fans thought it was nuts for NE to give up a first round pick for a new HC

sounds like some shit Ryan Pace might try to pull, if you think about it

Wounded Bear · Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:03 pm

So....you want to offer New England a first round pick for Belichick?

o-pus #40 in B major · Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:47 pm

Wounded Bear wrote:So....you want to offer New England a first round pick for Belichick?

pardon, my opaque brain drool doesn't always translate well

The Pats' hiring Belichick in 1999 set a precedent for an organization to leave no doors un-opened in the eternal search for the next Don Shula, even if their conniving methods ultimately cost them a high-round pick(s).

After the 2017 draft, we learned Ryan Pace is not afraid to make his signature "bold move" in a blockbuster deal for long-term value - he made the big move for the Biscuit and its so far - so good at this point, even if we get stuck with Glennon/Sanchez for most of the 2017 season.

The Belichick precedent gives me hope that our wheeler-dealer GM just might have the moxie to land our long-term head coach, the "right coach" for the Bears, by fair means or foul, whatever it takes to get the right young guy.

Rusty Trombagent · Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:04 pm

here's an idea for a bold move: how about a guy who won a couple of grey cups and is all in on the self-actualization train?

G08 · Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:01 pm

pus wrote:
Wounded Bear wrote:So....you want to offer New England a first round pick for Belichick?
pardon, my opaque brain drool doesn't always translate well

The Pats' hiring Belichick in 1999 set a precedent for an organization to leave no doors un-opened in the eternal search for the next Don Shula, even if their conniving methods cost them a high-round pick(s).

After the 2017 draft, we learned Ryan Pace is not afraid to make his signature "bold move" in a blockbuster deal for long-term value - he made the big move for the Biscuit and its so far - so good at this point.

The Belichick precedent gives me hope that our wheeler-dealer GM just might have the moxie to land our long-term head coach, the "right coach" for the Bears, by fair means or foul, whatever it takes to get the right young guy.

It wouldn't shock me to see Pace trade a draft pick to the Saints for Sean Payton...

bearsfaninaz · Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:40 pm

G08 wrote:
pus wrote:
Wounded Bear wrote:So....you want to offer New England a first round pick for Belichick?
pardon, my opaque brain drool doesn't always translate well

The Pats' hiring Belichick in 1999 set a precedent for an organization to leave no doors un-opened in the eternal search for the next Don Shula, even if their conniving methods cost them a high-round pick(s).

After the 2017 draft, we learned Ryan Pace is not afraid to make his signature "bold move" in a blockbuster deal for long-term value - he made the big move for the Biscuit and its so far - so good at this point.

The Belichick precedent gives me hope that our wheeler-dealer GM just might have the moxie to land our long-term head coach, the "right coach" for the Bears, by fair means or foul, whatever it takes to get the right young guy.
It wouldn't shock me to see Pace trade a draft pick to the Saints for Sean Payton...

Hopefully a 8th. I'm not impressed with him at all personally. Can't seem to make a defense work and without Brees he'd be nothing special. Kinda like Warner in Arizona with Whisenhunt. Once they are gone they will not be good.