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BR0D1E86 wrote:Also, that rule needs to change. You fumble it two inches earlier, it's first and goal. You fumble it two inches later it's a turnover? Hate that rule.


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I've never seen that rule come into play so many times in a season before. I think there's been 3 or 4 of those fumbles at the pylon in the NFL this year.
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The rule essentially makes sense. You lose control of the ball and it goes out the back of the end zone. Where do you spot the ball then? That's essentially the same thing as hitting the pylon. It's wildly unfortunate. But it makes sense on some level.

Having situational rules to overcomplicate things really takes away from the game. Players are trying to play at full speed. Fans are trying to understand everything that happens really fast. And officials have to apply the rules. Making rules more complicated is a detriment to all of those things. From this perspective, soccer is so much superior of a game than football. Simple has a lot of value.
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This game saved me $150 on bears merchandise. I’m glad to have waited to pull the trigger on that.

It might also free up my Sunday’s for the rest of the year.
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Mikefive wrote:The rule essentially makes sense. You lose control of the ball and it goes out the back of the end zone. Where do you spot the ball then? That's essentially the same thing as hitting the pylon. It's wildly unfortunate. But it makes sense on some level.
I don't see anything wrong with the rule ... it penalizes a ball carrier who can't hang onto the ball to complete the play, and that's the way it should be

so this involves better coaching and better player discipline ... if you cannot maintain control of the football when you are stretching or diving, then don't fucking do it ... keep the ball tucked and secured and deal with the result

Mikefive wrote:Having situational rules to overcomplicate things really takes away from the game. Players are trying to play at full speed. Fans are trying to understand everything that happens really fast. And officials have to apply the rules. Making rules more complicated is a detriment to all of those things. From this perspective, soccer is so much superior of a game than football. Simple has a lot of value.
it's not necessarily applicable to this particular rule, but you do have a very valid point ... there are many other situations where the rules interpretations do not match visual evidence (like the Tuck Rule - I still to this day say Brady fumbled that damn ball)

and it certainly does not help that the NFL apparently has the 3 blind mice in charge of their review process in New York ... because many things in many games spewing from New York this year do not match what we see happening on the field ... the Zach Miller fiasco still sticks in my craw, where the replay doofus explaining it isn't even pointing to the fucking ball as he declares the ball is on the ground so it is incomplete
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Mikefive wrote:The rule essentially makes sense. You lose control of the ball and it goes out the back of the end zone. Where do you spot the ball then? That's essentially the same thing as hitting the pylon. It's wildly unfortunate. But it makes sense on some level.

Having situational rules to overcomplicate things really takes away from the game. Players are trying to play at full speed. Fans are trying to understand everything that happens really fast. And officials have to apply the rules. Making rules more complicated is a detriment to all of those things. From this perspective, soccer is so much superior of a game than football. Simple has a lot of value.
It makes sense, I just don't like it. He fumbles that ball six inches sooner it's first and goal. It's such a massive change.

I know the end zone in general has different rules all around. I just think it's overly punishing to fumble the ball there as opposed to six inches earlier. Move the ball back to the 1 or whatever. I get the concept, I just don't really care for it.
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