11.12.2017 // Loss - Bears 16, Packers 23

[wab]

Considering the center is largely responsible for calling out the protections, I'd say at least three of those sacks are on Grasu. Two were on rollouts where Trubs held the ball way too goddamn long and missed open WR's.

I like Grasu, and I still think he can be a good player, but he's one of those guys that seems like he needs continuity and familiarity with the players around him.

It's sad when Bobby Massie is the best player on the OL this season (and he's admittedly been pretty damn good).

[Rusty Trombagent]

Bears final WR snap count:

Dontrelle Inman 57
Kendall Wright 46
Joshua Bellamy 40
Tre McBride 7
Markus Wheaton 2

Out of 60

So, McBride notches 3 receptions for 92 yards on 5 targets in the last game against the Saints and gets just 7 snaps in this one while Bellamy who has been on the field for only 14 offensive plays and wasn't targeted once in the previous four games gets 40 snaps?

Is there anyone out there who can explain that one? Anybody? Please?

John Fox and Dowell Loggains are morons.

it's that weird conservative lovie-ball we know and love.

"why did you stop running in the superbowl when you were averaging 5.0 ypc?"
"because they would have stopped us eventually."

[BR0D1E86]

Bears final WR snap count:

Dontrelle Inman 57
Kendall Wright 46
Joshua Bellamy 40
Tre McBride 7
Markus Wheaton 2

Out of 60

So, McBride notches 3 receptions for 92 yards on 5 targets in the last game against the Saints and gets just 7 snaps in this one while Bellamy who has been on the field for only 14 offensive plays and wasn't targeted once in the previous four games gets 40 snaps?

Is there anyone out there who can explain that one? Anybody? Please?

John Fox and Dowell Loggains are morons.

it's that weird conservative lovie-ball we know and love.

"why did you stop running in the superbowl when you were averaging 5.0 ypc?"
"because they would have stopped us eventually."

I don't know if it's the equivalent of benching Thomas Jones for Cedric Benson for no apparent reason. But it's along the same lines.

It's like we're throwing shit against the wall every week, and pay zero attention to shit that works for us and go back to it.

[mmmc_35]

This video shows exactly how this game went for me

www.snappytv.com/tc/6310284/4213943

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

This game really depressed me. I came into it expecting some change on offense with opening up the playbook and forcing defenses to guard the whole field instead of crowding 8-10 on the line. And in the 1st quarter it looked as though that might actually happen. Good play to Shaheen and to Inman...and then the John Fox philosophy took over and we went to run-run-pass-punt over and fucking over!!!

Why are there no screens and draws once the other side starts to just blitz over and over? Why is Cohen not being used? Why did we finally run a slant route, and it worked, and never use it again?

I am on the bandwagon that Fangio whould be interim/future HC and J. Fox and D.L. need to exit.

I was abso-fucking-lutely baffled by this. That was a great play with Shaheen, and they never seemed to try and get him the ball after that. Inman was getting great separation on the crossing routes. The modus operandi SHOULD BE, keep running a play that is working, until the other team can prove to you that they can stop it. It's unreal. I don't understand it at all.

The announcers were talking about how the Packers were going to keep bring 5-6 guys, to pressure a rookie QB. It happened the previous game too. Both times I was screaming at the TV, 'RUN A SCREEN PASS', 'RUN A SLANT', 'RUN SOMETHING THAT PUNISHES THE DEFENSIVE STRATEGY.' Nothing. No situational awareness in the play calling at all.

[Boris13c]

Bears' ugly loss to Packers a reflection on their coach

CHICAGO -- The blame for Sunday’s inexcusable loss to the Green Bay Packers starts at the top with coach John Fox.

The Chicago Bears (3-6) had an extra week to prepare for the Packers, who on the contrary had to play last Monday night against Detroit.

Let’s face it: Green Bay’s season looked sunk. They arrived at Soldier Field with a three-game losing streak and ineffective quarterback Brett Hundley -- not perennial Bears killer and future Hall of Famer Aaron Rodgers -- at the controls of the offense.

On the other hand, the Bears had won two of their past three games, largely because of Vic Fangio’s stingy and opportunistic defense.

Chicago was excited again about the Bears.

All the ingredients were in place for the Bears to pull off the elusive victory over their hated NFC North rivals.

Or so it seemed.

Instead, the Bears came out sloppy, disorganized and undisciplined – they had six flags thrown on them in the first quarter alone -- and dropped an ugly 23-16 decision.

That’s a direct reflection on the coach.

It sure seemed like Fox didn’t have the team ready to play.

To add insult to injury, Fox’s botched challenge on the Benny Cunningham play backfired so badly that officials changed the call to a touchback and gave Green Bay the ball at the 20. Fox inadvertently took points off the board.

That reversal sums up Fox’s tenure in Chicago.

Almost nothing has gone according to plan.

pretty much sums it up

[Rusty Trombagent]

Cohen touched the ball twice, fucking TWICE, yesterday.

What the hell is going on here?

not only that, go back and watch howard's 25 yard run:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201711120 ... &tab=recap" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


fucking two defenders follow tarik on the potential end around. that's respect.

Chris Emma‏Verified account @CEmma670
20m20 minutes ago
John Fox said of Tarik Cohen's light workload: "Defenses are doing more to take him away."


So instead of using that to their advantage, like in that play, they benched him for most of the game!

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Cohen touched the ball twice, fucking TWICE, yesterday.

What the hell is going on here?

not only that, go back and watch howard's 25 yard run:
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/201711120 ... &tab=recap" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


fucking two defenders follow tarik on the potential end around. that's respect.

Chris Emma‏Verified account @CEmma670
20m20 minutes ago
John Fox said of Tarik Cohen's light workload: "Defenses are doing more to take him away."


So instead of using that to their advantage, like in that play, they benched him for most of the game!

Yeah. I mean why the HELL would you want to use him in misdirection plays? That would be dumb. Too unpredictable.

[beardownbilly]

Apologies if someone else has already posted this:

Waddle & Silvy talked about how the Bears had 57 offensive snaps in this game and on 22 of them had 10 yards to go or longer (that doesn't include 1st & 10).

3rd & 10 or longer on 9 of 14 3rd down plays, that sucks ass!

Talk about giving Mitch no chance from the outset.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Apologies if someone else has already posted this:

Waddle & Silvy talked about how the Bears had 57 offensive snaps in this game and on 22 of them had 10 yards to go or longer (that doesn't include 1st & 10).

3rd & 10 or longer on 9 of 14 3rd down plays, that sucks ass!

Talk about giving Mitch no chance from the outset.

It's been talked about ad nauseum, but your statistic really brings it into focus. This team came out of a bye week, against its #1 rival, in the division, and was not ready to play. John Fox had TWO WEEKS to get the team ready to play a reeling Green Bay team, and they come out and shit the bed. The longer Fox stays the head coach, the less credibility Ryan Pace will have.

[staleystarch]

Apologies if someone else has already posted this:

Waddle & Silvy talked about how the Bears had 57 offensive snaps in this game and on 22 of them had 10 yards to go or longer (that doesn't include 1st & 10).

3rd & 10 or longer on 9 of 14 3rd down plays, that sucks ass!

Talk about giving Mitch no chance from the outset.

It's been talked about ad nauseum, but your statistic really brings it into focus. This team came out of a bye week, against its #1 rival, in the division, and was not ready to play. John Fox had TWO WEEKS to get the team ready to play a reeling Green Bay team, and they come out and shit the bed. The longer Fox stays the head coach, the less credibility Ryan Pace will have.

I think it may be more accurate to say the coaches came into that game not ready to coach.

[Hematite]

Apologies if someone else has already posted this:

Waddle & Silvy talked about how the Bears had 57 offensive snaps in this game and on 22 of them had 10 yards to go or longer (that doesn't include 1st & 10).

3rd & 10 or longer on 9 of 14 3rd down plays, that sucks ass!

Talk about giving Mitch no chance from the outset.

It's been talked about ad nauseum, but your statistic really brings it into focus. This team came out of a bye week, against its #1 rival, in the division, and was not ready to play. John Fox had TWO WEEKS to get the team ready to play a reeling Green Bay team, and they come out and shit the bed. The longer Fox stays the head coach, the less credibility Ryan Pace will have.

Back to back division losses may seal the fate for the first ever firing of a Bears coach mid season. Can it really get any worse than losing to a Rodgersless Packers team, especially coming of the bye while they have a short week? That was an inexcusable shit show.

I've always been a continuity guy, but continuing this madness for the sake of continuity does nobody any good, not even Pace, who will be fighting for his job soon unless something changes for the good. Pace's survival instinct has already kicked in IMO, and he's calculating what actions give him the best chance of being rewarded with a new contract. I hope, just like he did with Trubisky, he swings for the fences with new coaching. He's shown in the past that he's an all in gambler.

[DaBearsGreenBay]

These have been a painful few days for this fan. I️ live in Green Bay. My coworkers have been relentless with the insults. The worst part is, after that shit show, I️ can’t disagree with anything they’ve been saying!

[G08]

Except for the TD to Bellamy and one 3rd-and-4 in the 3rd quarter, here were the #Bears 3rd-down distances on the final plays of their other 9 offensive drives vs. #Packers:

3rd and 14
3rd and 15
3rd and 12
3rd and 13
3rd and 16
3rd and 15
3rd and 18
3rd and 10
3rd and 10

[Hematite]

Except for the TD to Bellamy and one 3rd-and-4 in the 3rd quarter, here were the #Bears 3rd-down distances on the final plays of their other 9 offensive drives vs. #Packers:

3rd and 14
3rd and 15
3rd and 12
3rd and 13
3rd and 16
3rd and 15
3rd and 18
3rd and 10
3rd and 10

Unreal!

[o-pus #40 in B major]

Apologies if someone else has already posted this:

Waddle & Silvy talked about how the Bears had 57 offensive snaps in this game and on 22 of them had 10 yards to go or longer (that doesn't include 1st & 10).

3rd & 10 or longer on 9 of 14 3rd down plays, that sucks ass!

Talk about giving Mitch no chance from the outset.

It's been talked about ad nauseum, but your statistic really brings it into focus. This team came out of a bye week, against its #1 rival, in the division, and was not ready to play. John Fox had TWO WEEKS to get the team ready to play a reeling Green Bay team, and they come out and shit the bed. The longer Fox stays the head coach, the less credibility Ryan Pace will have.

Back to back division losses may seal the fate for the first ever firing of a Bears coach mid season. Can it really get any worse than losing to a Rodgersless Packers team, especially coming of the bye while they have a short week? That was an inexcusable shit show.

I've always been a continuity guy, but continuing this madness for the sake of continuity does nobody any good, not even Pace, who will be fighting for his job soon unless something changes for the good. Pace's survival instinct has already kicked in IMO, and he's calculating what actions give him the best chance of being rewarded with a new contract. I hope, just like he did with Trubisky, he swings for the fences with new coaching. He's shown in the past that he's an all in gambler.

So the Bears oligarchy is going to allow Ryan Pace to fire John Fox in mid-season?

[Hematite]

Apologies if someone else has already posted this:

Waddle & Silvy talked about how the Bears had 57 offensive snaps in this game and on 22 of them had 10 yards to go or longer (that doesn't include 1st & 10).

3rd & 10 or longer on 9 of 14 3rd down plays, that sucks ass!

Talk about giving Mitch no chance from the outset.

It's been talked about ad nauseum, but your statistic really brings it into focus. This team came out of a bye week, against its #1 rival, in the division, and was not ready to play. John Fox had TWO WEEKS to get the team ready to play a reeling Green Bay team, and they come out and shit the bed. The longer Fox stays the head coach, the less credibility Ryan Pace will have.

Back to back division losses may seal the fate for the first ever firing of a Bears coach mid season. Can it really get any worse than losing to a Rodgersless Packers team, especially coming of the bye while they have a short week? That was an inexcusable shit show.

I've always been a continuity guy, but continuing this madness for the sake of continuity does nobody any good, not even Pace, who will be fighting for his job soon unless something changes for the good. Pace's survival instinct has already kicked in IMO, and he's calculating what actions give him the best chance of being rewarded with a new contract. I hope, just like he did with Trubisky, he swings for the fences with new coaching. He's shown in the past that he's an all in gambler.

So the Bears oligarchy is going to allow Ryan Pace to fire John Fox in mid-season?

Probably not, but some of us can hope!

[Mikefive]

Apologies if someone else has already posted this:

Waddle & Silvy talked about how the Bears had 57 offensive snaps in this game and on 22 of them had 10 yards to go or longer (that doesn't include 1st & 10).

3rd & 10 or longer on 9 of 14 3rd down plays, that sucks ass!

Talk about giving Mitch no chance from the outset.

It's been talked about ad nauseum, but your statistic really brings it into focus. This team came out of a bye week, against its #1 rival, in the division, and was not ready to play. John Fox had TWO WEEKS to get the team ready to play a reeling Green Bay team, and they come out and shit the bed. The longer Fox stays the head coach, the less credibility Ryan Pace will have.

Back to back division losses may seal the fate for the first ever firing of a Bears coach mid season. Can it really get any worse than losing to a Rodgersless Packers team, especially coming of the bye while they have a short week? That was an inexcusable shit show.

I've always been a continuity guy, but continuing this madness for the sake of continuity does nobody any good, not even Pace, who will be fighting for his job soon unless something changes for the good. Pace's survival instinct has already kicked in IMO, and he's calculating what actions give him the best chance of being rewarded with a new contract. I hope, just like he did with Trubisky, he swings for the fences with new coaching. He's shown in the past that he's an all in gambler.

I'm with you 100% on this.

Right now anyway. There is almost half a season left, though.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

On a day where there was little to be happy about, at least there was one great thing that happened at Soldier Field on Sunday:

https://twitter.com/ChicagoBears/status ... 1263298561

[Funkster]

Except for the TD to Bellamy and one 3rd-and-4 in the 3rd quarter, here were the #Bears 3rd-down distances on the final plays of their other 9 offensive drives vs. #Packers:

3rd and 14
3rd and 15
3rd and 12
3rd and 13
3rd and 16
3rd and 15
3rd and 18
3rd and 10
3rd and 10

Wow, that's mind boggling. 1st down has to be better to put this offense in a more manageable 3rd down situations. If the Bears would show the willingness to throw on some first downs, it would open up damn near the entire playbook. Howard is one of the better backs in the league, with a minor switch to the pistol or gun, I feel this would loosen up the box and he could easily get 3-4 yards on 1st down.

[Richie]

Also, that rule needs to change. You fumble it two inches earlier, it's first and goal. You fumble it two inches later it's a turnover? Hate that rule.


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I've never seen that rule come into play so many times in a season before. I think there's been 3 or 4 of those fumbles at the pylon in the NFL this year.

[Mikefive]

The rule essentially makes sense. You lose control of the ball and it goes out the back of the end zone. Where do you spot the ball then? That's essentially the same thing as hitting the pylon. It's wildly unfortunate. But it makes sense on some level.

Having situational rules to overcomplicate things really takes away from the game. Players are trying to play at full speed. Fans are trying to understand everything that happens really fast. And officials have to apply the rules. Making rules more complicated is a detriment to all of those things. From this perspective, soccer is so much superior of a game than football. Simple has a lot of value.

[DaBearsGreenBay]

This game saved me $150 on bears merchandise. I’m glad to have waited to pull the trigger on that.

It might also free up my Sunday’s for the rest of the year.

[Boris13c]

The rule essentially makes sense. You lose control of the ball and it goes out the back of the end zone. Where do you spot the ball then? That's essentially the same thing as hitting the pylon. It's wildly unfortunate. But it makes sense on some level.

I don't see anything wrong with the rule ... it penalizes a ball carrier who can't hang onto the ball to complete the play, and that's the way it should be

so this involves better coaching and better player discipline ... if you cannot maintain control of the football when you are stretching or diving, then don't fucking do it ... keep the ball tucked and secured and deal with the result

Having situational rules to overcomplicate things really takes away from the game. Players are trying to play at full speed. Fans are trying to understand everything that happens really fast. And officials have to apply the rules. Making rules more complicated is a detriment to all of those things. From this perspective, soccer is so much superior of a game than football. Simple has a lot of value.

it's not necessarily applicable to this particular rule, but you do have a very valid point ... there are many other situations where the rules interpretations do not match visual evidence (like the Tuck Rule - I still to this day say Brady fumbled that damn ball)

and it certainly does not help that the NFL apparently has the 3 blind mice in charge of their review process in New York ... because many things in many games spewing from New York this year do not match what we see happening on the field ... the Zach Miller fiasco still sticks in my craw, where the replay doofus explaining it isn't even pointing to the fucking ball as he declares the ball is on the ground so it is incomplete

[BR0D1E86]

The rule essentially makes sense. You lose control of the ball and it goes out the back of the end zone. Where do you spot the ball then? That's essentially the same thing as hitting the pylon. It's wildly unfortunate. But it makes sense on some level.

Having situational rules to overcomplicate things really takes away from the game. Players are trying to play at full speed. Fans are trying to understand everything that happens really fast. And officials have to apply the rules. Making rules more complicated is a detriment to all of those things. From this perspective, soccer is so much superior of a game than football. Simple has a lot of value.

It makes sense, I just don't like it. He fumbles that ball six inches sooner it's first and goal. It's such a massive change.

I know the end zone in general has different rules all around. I just think it's overly punishing to fumble the ball there as opposed to six inches earlier. Move the ball back to the 1 or whatever. I get the concept, I just don't really care for it.