Cutler somehow always seems to pop up in a conversation or 2 ... even when he wasn't playing and now even though he isn't on the team
Jay Cutler = Jeff George
* strong arms
* stubborn
* physically gifted but mentally challenged
* same amount of championship hardware
so no, I do not want Trubisky following that same path as some alluded to ...
Every single pass completed by Tru against the Pack
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While absolutely true that we want and need Trubisky to be better than Cutler in several ways, the difference is Cutler was doing that stuff as a seasoned vet. He was what he was. Turnovers from Trubisky would be frustrating, but more forgivable than Cutler, provided he learns from them and matures. Something Cutler never did.Boris13c wrote:Cutler somehow always seems to pop up in a conversation or 2 ... even when he wasn't playing and now even though he isn't on the team
Jay Cutler = Jeff George
* strong arms
* stubborn
* physically gifted but mentally challenged
* same amount of championship hardware
so no, I do not want Trubisky following that same path as some alluded to ...
And the simple fact is (at least I consider is a fact), they're setting up Trubisky to fail anyway by the vast majority of his attempts being on either second or third and long.
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My point is that Cutler never LEARNED to take a sack. My hope is that with experience and playing time, Trubisky starts to trust what he sees and knows when it's ok to take that risk and when it's not. He's a little risk averse right now, and that's ok. He knows that he can't put the offense in a bad position when the margin for error is already really slim.BR0D1E86 wrote:While absolutely true that we want and need Trubisky to be better than Cutler in several ways, the difference is Cutler was doing that stuff as a seasoned vet. He was what he was. Turnovers from Trubisky would be frustrating, but more forgivable than Cutler, provided he learns from them and matures. Something Cutler never did.Boris13c wrote:Cutler somehow always seems to pop up in a conversation or 2 ... even when he wasn't playing and now even though he isn't on the team
Jay Cutler = Jeff George
* strong arms
* stubborn
* physically gifted but mentally challenged
* same amount of championship hardware
so no, I do not want Trubisky following that same path as some alluded to ...
And the simple fact is (at least I consider is a fact), they're setting up Trubisky to fail anyway by the vast majority of his attempts being on either second or third and long.
If I have one complaint about Trubisky right now is that he needs to understand when to throw the ball away vs taking a sack.
Glad people are finally coming around to the fact Tru is taking sacks on purpose. I agree next step is for Tru to get better at throwing it away and then next level CHIT is when Tru feels the rush and evades it for a completion but he gwan need some actual talent at WR to do that stuff.wab wrote:My point is that Cutler never LEARNED to take a sack. My hope is that with experience and playing time, Trubisky starts to trust what he sees and knows when it's ok to take that risk and when it's not. He's a little risk averse right now, and that's ok. He knows that he can't put the offense in a bad position when the margin for error is already really slim.BR0D1E86 wrote:While absolutely true that we want and need Trubisky to be better than Cutler in several ways, the difference is Cutler was doing that stuff as a seasoned vet. He was what he was. Turnovers from Trubisky would be frustrating, but more forgivable than Cutler, provided he learns from them and matures. Something Cutler never did.Boris13c wrote:Cutler somehow always seems to pop up in a conversation or 2 ... even when he wasn't playing and now even though he isn't on the team
Jay Cutler = Jeff George
* strong arms
* stubborn
* physically gifted but mentally challenged
* same amount of championship hardware
so no, I do not want Trubisky following that same path as some alluded to ...
And the simple fact is (at least I consider is a fact), they're setting up Trubisky to fail anyway by the vast majority of his attempts being on either second or third and long.
If I have one complaint about Trubisky right now is that he needs to understand when to throw the ball away vs taking a sack.
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I haven'tPapaDongo wrote:Glad people are finally coming around to the fact Tru is taking sacks on purpose.
and I still don't think that is being referred
maybe it is just my perception on how this is being phrased, so let's discuss it
to me, "taking a sack on purpose" means dropping back and then simply going down and surrendering yourself ... play over ... you want to see a real tainted one, watch the replay of when Favre did exactly that so Michael Strahan could tap him down and get the sack record
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I haven't seen Trubisky do that once ... has he and I missed it?
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I already told you I'm not getting into it with you about this subject so I aint.Boris13c wrote:I haven'tPapaDongo wrote:Glad people are finally coming around to the fact Tru is taking sacks on purpose.
and I still don't think that is being referred
maybe it is just my perception on how this is being phrased, so let's discuss it
to me, "taking a sack on purpose" means dropping back and then simply going down and surrendering yourself ... play over ... you want to see a real tainted one, watch the replay of when Favre did exactly that so Michael Strahan could tap him down and get the sack record
[video][/video]
I haven't seen Trubisky do that once ... has he and I missed it?
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so you're happy to spew forth with your opinion but not open to an actual discussion?PapaDongo wrote:I already told you I'm not getting into it with you about this subject so I aint.
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This conversation is slowly making me dumber. Please, everyone, if a comment is blatantly mind-numbing, do your best to simply ignore it and carry on a higher quality of discussion.