If we have an OC opening next year...

Mikefive · Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:31 am

Hiphopopotamos · Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:40 am

While Kubiak would definitely be an improvement - I'd prefer a little more 'vertical' offense for Trubisky. I'd also like a guy who has shown some ability to incorporate more of the 'college' schemes we're seeing in places like KC and Philly.

G08 · Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:49 am

Hiphopopotamos wrote:While Kubiak would definitely be an improvement - I'd prefer a little more 'vertical' offense for Trubisky. I'd also like a guy who has shown some ability to incorporate more of the 'college' schemes we're seeing in places like KC and Philly.

Ditto, I believe that's the way the game is going.

See the Rams yesterday? Jesus.

Otis Day · Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:13 am

Well if Loggains is launched and Foxie is here, probably will be a little difficult to bring someone new in if Fox is seen to have limited time left. I think the only way Bears get new OC is if the house is cleaned.

Adipost · Mon Nov 06, 2017 11:49 am

Kubiak would be a tremendous acquisition as OC. He made Matt Schaub look like an elite franchise qb with that heavy play action, rollout offense.

Mr.Irrelevant · Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:13 pm

Would love to see Kubiak as OC - but that probably means Fox is gone. I can't see Fox firing Loggains and then hiring the guy who replaced him in Denver. There has to be some hard feelings.

Now if Fangio stays as head coach and let's Kubiak run the offense, that would be sweet.

G08 · Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:17 pm

This is going to be so annoying to watch unfold.

Mikefive · Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:52 pm

Mr.Irrelevant wrote:I can't see Fox firing Loggains and then hiring the guy who replaced him in Denver. There has to be some hard feelings.

Why? John Elway made the decision and Kubiak happens to be a good coach who Elway knew very well. I think Foxie is one of those guys who knows the business of NFL coaching. If hiring Kubiak would help him be more successful, I don't think Fox would blink an eye before bringing him in.

YOGABBA · Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:37 pm

I'd go John Shoop.

Mr.Irrelevant · Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:54 pm

Mikefive wrote:
Mr.Irrelevant wrote:I can't see Fox firing Loggains and then hiring the guy who replaced him in Denver. There has to be some hard feelings.
Why? John Elway made the decision and Kubiak happens to be a good coach who Elway knew very well. I think Foxie is one of those guys who knows the business of NFL coaching. If hiring Kubiak would help him be more successful, I don't think Fox would blink an eye before bringing him in.

Why? Because he's human. He had a team that was literally poised to win the Superbowl yanked out from under him, and it seemed like Elway and Kubiak had an agreement made before Fox was fired. I'd be resentful.

If Fox does stick around and feels the need to fire Loggains, I'm sure there are other potential OC's he'd turn to first.

Also, if Kubiak is looking to return as on OC, I'm sure the Ravens would take him back in a second.

staleystarch · Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:59 pm

What is wrong with keeping an OC that has had mediocre or less success in his carreer? He's cheap! We don't have to worry about another team stealing him. What's not to like?

Mikefive · Mon Nov 06, 2017 3:31 pm

Mr.Irrelevant wrote:
Mikefive wrote:
Mr.Irrelevant wrote:I can't see Fox firing Loggains and then hiring the guy who replaced him in Denver. There has to be some hard feelings.
Why? John Elway made the decision and Kubiak happens to be a good coach who Elway knew very well. I think Foxie is one of those guys who knows the business of NFL coaching. If hiring Kubiak would help him be more successful, I don't think Fox would blink an eye before bringing him in.
Why? Because he's human. He had a team that was literally poised to win the Superbowl yanked out from under him, and it seemed like Elway and Kubiak had an agreement made before Fox was fired. I'd be resentful.

If Fox does stick around and feels the need to fire Loggains, I'm sure there are other potential OC's he'd turn to first.

Also, if Kubiak is looking to return as on OC, I'm sure the Ravens would take him back in a second.

You could be right, I suppose. I just never thought of Foxie as being emotional like that about other coaches. And you're right that there'll be several options available if we do have an opening.

BR0D1E86 · Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:44 pm

YOGABBA wrote:I'd go John Shoop.

His offenses were quite a bit more imaginative and deceptive than what we're seeing this year, that's for sure. I mean, that fake jet sweep 8-10 times a game? Mind blowing.

alexwilkins · Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:21 am

Y'all giving up on Dowell. Not me. If we put weapons around Mitch next year, and keep Vic, I think we could be in for the best coordinator duo in the NFL, biiiiiiiiitch

Whether Foxy is along for the ride, that's the real test

bearsfaninaz · Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:15 am

alexwilkins wrote:Y'all giving up on Dowell. Not me. If we put weapons around Mitch next year, and keep Vic, I think we could be in for the best coordinator duo in the NFL, biiiiiiiiitch

Whether Foxy is along for the ride, that's the real test

I think this is sarcasm but I'm not sure.

G08 · Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:17 am

Loggains was talking on the Coaches Show like a coach that thinks he's going to be back next season to continue to build around Mitch.

o-pus #40 in B major · Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:43 am

G08 wrote:Loggains was talking on the Coaches Show like a coach that thinks he's going to be back next season to continue to build around Mitch.

tune in next week: Darrell's in Denial

Boris13c · Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:56 am

Loggains will impress or depress us based on the offensive gameplan against Goon Bay this Sunday

he has had ample video evidence and should (SHOULD) have a much better attack plan after having the bye week to study and come up with improvements

I am thinking positive thoughts on this but really am not sure wtf his problem has been to this point so have no idea what he may be thinking going forward

staleystarch · Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:05 pm

G08 wrote:Loggains was talking on the Coaches Show like a coach that thinks he's going to be back next season to continue to build around Mitch.

Do coaches ever say they don't expect to be back?

Boris13c · Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:12 pm

staleystarch wrote:
G08 wrote:Loggains was talking on the Coaches Show like a coach that thinks he's going to be back next season to continue to build around Mitch.
Do coaches ever say they don't expect to be back?

I think I remember Del Rio alluding to the team moving on in his waning days in Jacksonville ... he is the only prominent one I remember

G08 · Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:42 pm

staleystarch wrote:
G08 wrote:Loggains was talking on the Coaches Show like a coach that thinks he's going to be back next season to continue to build around Mitch.
Do coaches ever say they don't expect to be back?

I don't know, but he wasn't asked if he expected to be back. I'm going solely off how he was talking about building and developing the offense moving forward.

alexwilkins · Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:13 pm

bearsfaninaz wrote:
alexwilkins wrote:Y'all giving up on Dowell. Not me. If we put weapons around Mitch next year, and keep Vic, I think we could be in for the best coordinator duo in the NFL, biiiiiiiiitch

Whether Foxy is along for the ride, that's the real test
I think this is sarcasm but I'm not sure.

No way. I really like Dowell.

G08 · Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:40 pm

FWIW... Matt Hasselbeck is a big fan of Dowell Loggains, thinks that Fox put the handcuffs on him... he called him a bit of a Jedi Master/Ninja Warrior drawing up pass plays and pass protections.

bearsfaninaz · Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:00 pm

G08 wrote:FWIW... Matt Hasselbeck is a big fan of Dowell Loggains, thinks that Fox put the handcuffs on him... he called him a bit of a Jedi Master/Ninja Warrior drawing up pass plays and pass protections.

Well the force definitely isn't strong with Loggains from what I've seen

Wounded Bear · Tue Nov 07, 2017 7:59 pm

In Dowell's defense, I really like the way Trubisky's handing off skills have developed since he took over for Glennon.

GSH · Tue Nov 07, 2017 8:53 pm

Id be happy for Loggains to go if for no reason other than I cant stand his constant nasal sniffing at pressers!! Am i the only one who's noticed and hates it? dude sounds like he's been up all night with the bolivian marching powder. EVERY TIME.

Moriarty · Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:14 pm

GSH wrote:Id be happy for Loggains to go if for no reason other than I cant stand his constant nasal sniffing at pressers!! Am i the only one who's noticed and hates it? dude sounds like he's been up all night with the bolivian marching powder. EVERY TIME.

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Rusty Trombagent · Tue Nov 07, 2017 10:41 pm

jerry that sweater is out of control

o-pus #40 in B major · Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:34 pm

Wounded Bear wrote:In Dowell's defense, I really like the way Trubisky's handing off skills have developed since he took over for Glennon.

Hard to argue with that.

Bears Whiskey Nut · Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:05 am

G08 wrote:
Hiphopopotamos wrote:While Kubiak would definitely be an improvement - I'd prefer a little more 'vertical' offense for Trubisky. I'd also like a guy who has shown some ability to incorporate more of the 'college' schemes we're seeing in places like KC and Philly.
Ditto, I believe that's the way the game is going.

See the Rams yesterday? Jesus.

Who is their OC, LaFluer? I'd take im as a HC/OC.