Why won't coaches let Tru call an audible?
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So many stacked boxes but Tru ain't checking into pass plays and it's gotta be the coaches, right? I mean, Tru has to at least have some sort of quick slant or rollout he can check into as a goto play for these stacked boxes, right? Makes no sense and I think they are treating games like practice but Tru is supposed to be smart and a quick learner, why not throw a couple of options at least for him to audible like a real NFL qb?
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1. Stop posting in a confrontational manner and being a thorny poster in general, please.
2. Trubisky is allowed to make checks and audibles at the line, but he's also a greenhorn who needs to get used to making pre-snap reads and being a field general.
2. Trubisky is allowed to make checks and audibles at the line, but he's also a greenhorn who needs to get used to making pre-snap reads and being a field general.
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He has the leeway, but I'd guess he's not super comfortable making pre snap reads. He has made a few run-to-run audibles.
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wab wrote:He has the leeway, but I'd guess he's not super comfortable making pre snap reads. He has made a few run-to-run audibles.
I don't know how involved the audible system they have for Trubisky is, but I do know the Bears offense seems to be built to play into the strength of the defense rather than exploit any defensive weakness
case in point against Goon Bay - Bears break the huddle and see 9 men in the box to crush the run on 1st down, with a 10th creeping into the picture ... Goon Bay tries that against a more experienced QB with a more flexible audible system, and that turns into a play action pass for a 1st down and possibly more
coming to the line and seeing 9-10 in the box and your only option is to check to a different run to go right into the teeth of it does not allow the offense to exploit the weakness of the defense on that play and pretty much ensures a second and long where the defense will play the pass to help you to 3rd and long
go back and watch any Bears game this year and you will see this play out again and again
I realize Trubisky is a rookie, but he has the arm to throw the damn ball, so it is up to the coaches to come up with plays to allow him to do that, especially in situations where the defense is most vulnerable to it
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RPO's should have been practiced the whole Bye week and become a staple for this offense. Secondly, running out of shot gun, which we did a lot last year, with the RPO play would also be helpful.Boris13c wrote:wab wrote:He has the leeway, but I'd guess he's not super comfortable making pre snap reads. He has made a few run-to-run audibles.
I don't know how involved the audible system they have for Trubisky is, but I do know the Bears offense seems to be built to play into the strength of the defense rather than exploit any defensive weakness
case in point against Goon Bay - Bears break the huddle and see 9 men in the box to crush the run on 1st down, with a 10th creeping into the picture ... Goon Bay tries that against a more experienced QB with a more flexible audible system, and that turns into a play action pass for a 1st down and possibly more
coming to the line and seeing 9-10 in the box and your only option is to check to a different run to go right into the teeth of it does not allow the offense to exploit the weakness of the defense on that play and pretty much ensures a second and long where the defense will play the pass to help you to 3rd and long
go back and watch any Bears game this year and you will see this play out again and again
I realize Trubisky is a rookie, but he has the arm to throw the damn ball, so it is up to the coaches to come up with plays to allow him to do that, especially in situations where the defense is most vulnerable to it
It's friggin mind boggling how little shotgun we're using this season, especially when you consider Trubisky's comfort level with it, and the fact that Howard ran for something like 6.5 or 7 ypc out of the shotgun last season.Hematite wrote:RPO's should have been practiced the whole Bye week and become a staple for this offense. Secondly, running out of shot gun, which we did a lot last year, with the RPO play would also be helpful.Boris13c wrote:wab wrote:He has the leeway, but I'd guess he's not super comfortable making pre snap reads. He has made a few run-to-run audibles.
I don't know how involved the audible system they have for Trubisky is, but I do know the Bears offense seems to be built to play into the strength of the defense rather than exploit any defensive weakness
case in point against Goon Bay - Bears break the huddle and see 9 men in the box to crush the run on 1st down, with a 10th creeping into the picture ... Goon Bay tries that against a more experienced QB with a more flexible audible system, and that turns into a play action pass for a 1st down and possibly more
coming to the line and seeing 9-10 in the box and your only option is to check to a different run to go right into the teeth of it does not allow the offense to exploit the weakness of the defense on that play and pretty much ensures a second and long where the defense will play the pass to help you to 3rd and long
go back and watch any Bears game this year and you will see this play out again and again
I realize Trubisky is a rookie, but he has the arm to throw the damn ball, so it is up to the coaches to come up with plays to allow him to do that, especially in situations where the defense is most vulnerable to it
I haven't seen the stats in a couple weeks, but we were lining up in the shotgun at about half the frequency this year compared to last year.
It's intentionally handicapping yourself by playing away from what you do well and building the game plan around your weaknesses.
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We ran more shotgun under Glennon than we have with Trubisky which I just can't grasp.
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Its an easy explanation. They are trying to get Trubisky more time practicing taking the ball from under center, and believe in his athleticism to make the 3-5-7 step drop. The coaching staff discovered what they had in Glennon, and realized he couldn't drop 5 steps before he either, 1) tripped, or 2) got sacked. So they had him play out of the gun more, just to give him a fighting chance. Which didn't work...bearsfaninaz wrote:We ran more shotgun under Glennon than we have with Trubisky which I just can't grasp.
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Fox talks about Trubisky's audibling around the 8 min mark. Says he has the flexibility to do it just not 100% of the time.
Fox talks about Trubisky's audibling around the 8 min mark. Says he has the flexibility to do it just not 100% of the time.
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So knowing Fox he can probably only audible from run left to run right.DaSuperfan wrote:
Fox talks about Trubisky's audibling around the 8 min mark. Says he has the flexibility to do it just not 100% of the time.
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bearsfaninaz wrote:So knowing Fox he can probably only audible from run left to run right.DaSuperfan wrote:
Fox talks about Trubisky's audibling around the 8 min mark. Says he has the flexibility to do it just not 100% of the time.
pretty sure that is probably an accurate guess
I will offer a simple 1st and 10 play as an example, where the Packers had 9 men stacked to stop the run, with a 10th creeping up prior to the snap ... the Bears ran right into the teeth of it for a 1 yard gain
I think Trubisky is smart enough that if he had a run/pass audible option he would have checked to a pass with the defensive front the Packers presented ... instead he handed off on a run to the right (probably a check from a run to the left)
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Nice.bearsfaninaz wrote:So knowing Fox he can probably only audible from run left to run right.DaSuperfan wrote:
Fox talks about Trubisky's audibling around the 8 min mark. Says he has the flexibility to do it just not 100% of the time.
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I am sure Fox has the audible in play for him to just kneel down all the time.Wounded Bear wrote:Nice.bearsfaninaz wrote:So knowing Fox he can probably only audible from run left to run right.DaSuperfan wrote:
Fox talks about Trubisky's audibling around the 8 min mark. Says he has the flexibility to do it just not 100% of the time.