11.19.2017 // Loss - Bears 24, Lions 27

For all things Chicago Bears

Moderator: wab

User avatar
Bears Whiskey Nut
Hall of Famer
Posts: 11042
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:06 am
Location: Oak Park, IL
Has thanked: 79 times
Been thanked: 518 times

GSH wrote:in that sequence of events, id rather Fangio as HC and Loggains as OC allowed to run the offence his way.

I just think Fangio probably has a bit more of respect from the locker room when talking about the HC position.
Personally I think Fangio falls into the category of great OC, bad HC. I have nothing to back that up, but he just comes across that way. I don't see him as being political, and you have to have some diplomatic ability when you are the HC.
Image
MoFugger
Head Coach
Posts: 2730
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:55 am
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 7 times

G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:
malk wrote:Add me to McDaniels if we go external, Loggains if Pace thinks he's worth the risk but that should have happened already.

I can't see Loggains getting it mind, plus would that cause issues with Fangio?
I really think we need to stop thinking Fangio is the prized Pig at the County Fair.


Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
You've hated him for a long time, but you can't discount the positive impact he has had on our defense. Went from worst in Chicago Bears history to above average (playing at a high level before injuries took their toll as well).
I don't "hate" him. I think he's overrated. And I don't discount the change that came about when he showed up and cleaned up Mel Tucker's mess. I also don't think he was the only man on earth that could do it.

The man is absolutely good at what he does, but I just don't get the hand-wringing over the possibility of losing him, like suddenly the defense is going to go to s*** because we don't have Vic Fangio here.
There were great defensive coordinators before Vick came to the NFL, and there will be great defensive coordinators after he leaves. I just don't buy into the keeping him at all costs, even if it's to the detriment of the entire team.

Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
User avatar
G08
Hall of Famer
Posts: 20624
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:34 pm
Location: Football Hell
Has thanked: 225 times
Been thanked: 795 times

MoFugger wrote:
G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:
malk wrote:Add me to McDaniels if we go external, Loggains if Pace thinks he's worth the risk but that should have happened already.

I can't see Loggains getting it mind, plus would that cause issues with Fangio?
I really think we need to stop thinking Fangio is the prized Pig at the County Fair.


Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
You've hated him for a long time, but you can't discount the positive impact he has had on our defense. Went from worst in Chicago Bears history to above average (playing at a high level before injuries took their toll as well).
I don't "hate" him. I think he's overrated. And I don't discount the change that came about when he showed up and cleaned up Mel Tucker's mess. I also don't think he was the only man on earth that could do it.

The man is absolutely good at what he does, but I just don't get the hand-wringing over the possibility of losing him, like suddenly the defense is going to go to s*** because we don't have Vic Fangio here.
There were great defensive coordinators before Vick came to the NFL, and there will be great defensive coordinators after he leaves. I just don't buy into the keeping him at all costs, even if it's to the detriment of the entire team.

Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
Riiiight

http://www.bearsfansonline.com/forum/se ... mit=Search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My favorite: "Fangio is a bigger hoax than climate change! " :lol:
9 PLAYOFF APPEARANCES IN THE PAST 35 SEASONS

"Wallet white, phone is pink, case is clear, nails are clear, lips are pink – your girl LOVE 'em!"
MoFugger
Head Coach
Posts: 2730
Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:55 am
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 7 times

G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:
G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:
malk wrote:Add me to McDaniels if we go external, Loggains if Pace thinks he's worth the risk but that should have happened already.

I can't see Loggains getting it mind, plus would that cause issues with Fangio?
I really think we need to stop thinking Fangio is the prized Pig at the County Fair.


Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
You've hated him for a long time, but you can't discount the positive impact he has had on our defense. Went from worst in Chicago Bears history to above average (playing at a high level before injuries took their toll as well).
I don't "hate" him. I think he's overrated. And I don't discount the change that came about when he showed up and cleaned up Mel Tucker's mess. I also don't think he was the only man on earth that could do it.

The man is absolutely good at what he does, but I just don't get the hand-wringing over the possibility of losing him, like suddenly the defense is going to go to s*** because we don't have Vic Fangio here.
There were great defensive coordinators before Vick came to the NFL, and there will be great defensive coordinators after he leaves. I just don't buy into the keeping him at all costs, even if it's to the detriment of the entire team.

Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
Riiiight

http://www.bearsfansonline.com/forum/se ... mit=Search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My favorite: "Fangio is a bigger hoax than climate change! " :lol:
I'm not claiming I haven't gone on post game drunken rants about him.
I stand by the be life he is overrated.

Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
User avatar
G08
Hall of Famer
Posts: 20624
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:34 pm
Location: Football Hell
Has thanked: 225 times
Been thanked: 795 times

MoFugger wrote:
G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:
G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:
malk wrote:Add me to McDaniels if we go external, Loggains if Pace thinks he's worth the risk but that should have happened already.

I can't see Loggains getting it mind, plus would that cause issues with Fangio?
I really think we need to stop thinking Fangio is the prized Pig at the County Fair.


Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
You've hated him for a long time, but you can't discount the positive impact he has had on our defense. Went from worst in Chicago Bears history to above average (playing at a high level before injuries took their toll as well).
I don't "hate" him. I think he's overrated. And I don't discount the change that came about when he showed up and cleaned up Mel Tucker's mess. I also don't think he was the only man on earth that could do it.

The man is absolutely good at what he does, but I just don't get the hand-wringing over the possibility of losing him, like suddenly the defense is going to go to s*** because we don't have Vic Fangio here.
There were great defensive coordinators before Vick came to the NFL, and there will be great defensive coordinators after he leaves. I just don't buy into the keeping him at all costs, even if it's to the detriment of the entire team.

Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
Riiiight

http://www.bearsfansonline.com/forum/se ... mit=Search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My favorite: "Fangio is a bigger hoax than climate change! " :lol:
I'm not claiming I haven't gone on post game drunken rants about him.
I stand by the be life he is overrated.

Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
Our defense did lose to Brett Hundley...
9 PLAYOFF APPEARANCES IN THE PAST 35 SEASONS

"Wallet white, phone is pink, case is clear, nails are clear, lips are pink – your girl LOVE 'em!"
User avatar
Bears Whiskey Nut
Hall of Famer
Posts: 11042
Joined: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:06 am
Location: Oak Park, IL
Has thanked: 79 times
Been thanked: 518 times

G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:
G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:
G08 wrote:
MoFugger wrote:I really think we need to stop thinking Fangio is the prized Pig at the County Fair.


Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
You've hated him for a long time, but you can't discount the positive impact he has had on our defense. Went from worst in Chicago Bears history to above average (playing at a high level before injuries took their toll as well).
I don't "hate" him. I think he's overrated. And I don't discount the change that came about when he showed up and cleaned up Mel Tucker's mess. I also don't think he was the only man on earth that could do it.

The man is absolutely good at what he does, but I just don't get the hand-wringing over the possibility of losing him, like suddenly the defense is going to go to s*** because we don't have Vic Fangio here.
There were great defensive coordinators before Vick came to the NFL, and there will be great defensive coordinators after he leaves. I just don't buy into the keeping him at all costs, even if it's to the detriment of the entire team.

Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
Riiiight

http://www.bearsfansonline.com/forum/se ... mit=Search" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My favorite: "Fangio is a bigger hoax than climate change! " :lol:
I'm not claiming I haven't gone on post game drunken rants about him.
I stand by the be life he is overrated.

Sent from my LG-V495 using Tapatalk
Our defense did lose to Brett Hundley...
Without Danny Trevethan. Who I still claim is the lynchpin of the defense.
Image
User avatar
Rusty Trombagent
Hall of Famer
Posts: 7375
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:19 am
Location: Maine!
Has thanked: 567 times
Been thanked: 1001 times

Image
Image
User avatar
docc
Head Coach
Posts: 3824
Joined: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:33 pm
Location: Outpost of Reality S.E. Arizona
Has thanked: 970 times
Been thanked: 179 times

yes..I read that..
Great game for him to build on..
Richie
MVP
Posts: 1913
Joined: Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:37 pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 18 times

RustyTrubisky wrote:Image
Really good to see.

So far, the people who criticized Pace for taking chances on small school players are on their way to looking silly.

If Trub pans out on top of it, that could be the draft class we point to in a few years as our "corner turning" moment.
User avatar
mmmc_35
Hall of Famer
Posts: 6116
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:25 am
Has thanked: 105 times
Been thanked: 98 times

Richie wrote:
RustyTrubisky wrote:Image
Really good to see.

So far, the people who criticized Pace for taking chances on small school players are on their way to looking silly.

If Trub pans out on top of it, that could be the draft class we point to in a few years as our "corner turning" moment.
I hope so but it could also be the nail in his coffin
User avatar
GSH
MVP
Posts: 1007
Joined: Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:50 am
Location: Los Angeles

nahhh, cohen, shaheen and trubisky alone i think show that pace has a good drafting nose. Kevin White is what it is and totally unforeseen and the roster availability ( read: injuries ) haven't helped.

Pace is not the problem with this organisation - its the lack of on field discipline ( penalties ) and shitty play calling and challenging in weird spots that hamstringing this team - all the head coaches responsibilities.

Pace has shown enough that this team will not be the perennial bottom feeders, ala browns, and the thermometer is pointing upwards in chicago. We'll get there, 2019-2020 we are legit contenders. Hang in there bears bros.
User avatar
Ormazd
MVP
Posts: 1492
Joined: Sun Nov 02, 2008 7:08 pm
Location: Peoples Republic of Virginia
Has thanked: 25 times
Been thanked: 6 times

docc wrote:I would have liked a sidleine quick to get 5 or more..still have 4 secs,,for the Dead Barff Magic..
That ugly Barfburger kick would have missed from 20 yards.
Image
User avatar
Rusty Trombagent
Hall of Famer
Posts: 7375
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:19 am
Location: Maine!
Has thanked: 567 times
Been thanked: 1001 times

if barth makes that kick he might still have a job. long term, we won.
Image
User avatar
Boris13c
Hall of Famer
Posts: 15969
Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:30 am
Location: The Bear Nebula
Has thanked: 41 times
Been thanked: 113 times

RustyTrubisky wrote:if barth makes that kick he might still have a job. long term, we won.

no, because he would have then saved his game day choke for OT ...
"Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things."
George Carlin
Post Reply