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As of today, the Bears look to have 40+M cap room for next year, based on a 178M cap.

We can add in the 8M left over from 2017, but that will basically go to signing the 2018 draft class.

If we are looking at the roster, there are a lot of guys that could be cut for large cap savings:

Glennon 11.5M(4.5M dead money)
McPhee 7M(1M dead money)
Sims 5.6M(670k dead money)
Massie 5.6M(500k dead money)
Wheaton 5M(750k dead money)
Cooper 4.5M(1M dead money)
Demps 3.67M(667K dead money)

They can easily free up another 20-25M without hurting the roster a lot. Glennon McPhee Cooper and Wheaton look like obvious ones. White I don't see it happening until next year's camp if it happens. Demps Massie and Sims will likely stay as veterans unless they see cheaper options at same production.

I did not include Long or Sitton but due to age and injuries, at some point the Bears may decide to go younger.
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Free agents that will require replacement/re signing:

Amukamara(7M)
Inman(2.75M)
Fuller(2.4M)
Wright(2M)
Unrein(1.13M)
Santos(700K)
O'Donnel(580K)
Callahan(615k)
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my take on those:

Amukamara(7M) - not been impressed by his performance thus far
Inman(2.75M) - keeper
Fuller(2.4M) - keeper
Wright(2M) - let him go
Unrein(1.13M) - prefer bullard
Santos(700K) - not seen enough, prefer to go younger
O'Donnel(580K) - keeper
Callahan(615k) - let him go
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My view...
ysleblanc wrote:Glennon 11.5M(4.5M dead money)... No brainer cut.
McPhee 7M(1M dead money)... Needs to go.
Sims 5.6M(670k dead money)... Could go either way. $5.6M is a bit high, but big need area with both he and Miller gone.
Massie 5.6M(500k dead money)... Keep.
Wheaton 5M(750k dead money)... Absolutely gone.
Cooper 4.5M(1M dead money)... Keep maybe?
White 5.3M(no dead money)... Keep. Last chance contract year.
Demps 3.67M(667K dead money)... See ya.

Amukamara(7M)... Re-sign. He's been our best CB and our top 3 are all FAs.
Inman(2.75M)... Re-sign to #3 money.
Fuller(2.4M)... Re-sign maybe, depending on price.
Wright(2M)... Re-sign. $2M is affordable for a #4.
Unrein(1.13M)... Re-sign if he's this cheap.
Santos(700K)... Inclined to re-sign.
O'Donnel(580K)... Re-sign.
Callahan(615k)
... Re-sign if reasonably cheap.
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That's an outstanding situation and allows for front loading deals which should help us attract big FAs. The problem is do they want to play here and the new HC is gonna have to do a great job recruiting.

Glennon, McPhee and Sims could all go. Wheaton gone. Is Cooper the guy that screwed up the blocked field goal and cost us a touchdown? GONE!

Almost time to go shopping. Can't wait for the draft and free agency period.
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If you're into this kind of stuff, because I know I am(!):

https://overthecap.com/calculator/chicago-bears/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If I was GM, I would have about $76 million available in cap space after some cuts.
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G08 wrote:If you're into this kind of stuff, because I know I am(!):

https://overthecap.com/calculator/chicago-bears/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If I was GM, I would have about $76 million available in cap space after some cuts.
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GSH wrote:my take on those:

Amukamara(7M) - not been impressed by his performance thus far
Inman(2.75M) - keeper
Fuller(2.4M) - keeper
Wright(2M) - let him go
Unrein(1.13M) - prefer bullard
Santos(700K) - not seen enough, prefer to go younger
O'Donnel(580K) - keeper
Callahan(615k) - let him go
Cairo Santos has been one of the best kickers in the league since coming in, and he's only 26.

We'd be pretty stupid to let him go, and start this kicking carousel all over again.
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If you cut white it's all dead money as his last year is 100% guaranteed. No way around it being a 5.3 million dead cap money hit.

Glennon 11.5M(4.5M dead money)... No brainer cut.
McPhee 7M(1M dead money)... Needs to go.
Sims 5.6M(670k dead money)... Could go either way. $5.6M is a bit high, but big need area with both he and Miller gone.
Massie 5.6M(500k dead money)... Keep.
Wheaton 5M(750k dead money)... Absolutely gone.
Cooper 4.5M(1M dead money)... Keep maybe?
White 5.3M(no dead money)... Keep. Last chance contract year.
Demps 3.67M(667K dead money)... See ya.
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It's not as good as it sounds.

That 40M figure involves the Bears having an almost league-low (tied for 2nd fewest) number of players under contract for 2018.

Just filling the bottom of the roster with near-minimum nobodies will cost you 14M right off.
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I really liked the Kendall Wright signing, but if we can keep Inman for reletively cheap, I'd take Jarvis Landry over him in a heart beat.(Obviously) He's like what he had at Chapel Hill in Ryan Switzer, only infinitely more talented.
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Your regular reminder that dead money is a failure of a GM. Inevitable in some cases but if we have the amount I'm expecting in 2018 then it's a pretty bad indictment of Pace's free agency.
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alexwilkins wrote:I really liked the Kendall Wright signing, but if we can keep Inman for reletively cheap, I'd take Jarvis Landry over him in a heart beat.(Obviously) He's like what he had at Chapel Hill in Ryan Switzer, only infinitely more talented.
Uh... Outside of Glennon, there's nobody who will cost us more than one million in dead cap. Most are under that mark.
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Moriarty wrote:It's not as good as it sounds.

That 40M figure involves the Bears having an almost league-low (tied for 2nd fewest) number of players under contract for 2018.

Just filling the bottom of the roster with near-minimum nobodies will cost you 14M right off.
This is a good point. I must say.
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Richie wrote:
Moriarty wrote:It's not as good as it sounds.

That 40M figure involves the Bears having an almost league-low (tied for 2nd fewest) number of players under contract for 2018.

Just filling the bottom of the roster with near-minimum nobodies will cost you 14M right off.
This is a good point. I must say.
Agreed.
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Richie wrote:
GSH wrote:my take on those:

Amukamara(7M) - not been impressed by his performance thus far
Inman(2.75M) - keeper
Fuller(2.4M) - keeper
Wright(2M) - let him go
Unrein(1.13M) - prefer bullard
Santos(700K) - not seen enough, prefer to go younger
O'Donnel(580K) - keeper
Callahan(615k) - let him go
Cairo Santos has been one of the best kickers in the league since coming in, and he's only 26.

We'd be pretty stupid to let him go, and start this kicking carousel all over again.

I agree, Santos is very young by kicking standards. AT WORST I would sign him and bring in competition in camp.
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ysleblanc wrote:
Richie wrote:
GSH wrote:my take on those:

Amukamara(7M) - not been impressed by his performance thus far
Inman(2.75M) - keeper
Fuller(2.4M) - keeper
Wright(2M) - let him go
Unrein(1.13M) - prefer bullard
Santos(700K) - not seen enough, prefer to go younger
O'Donnel(580K) - keeper
Callahan(615k) - let him go
Cairo Santos has been one of the best kickers in the league since coming in, and he's only 26.

We'd be pretty stupid to let him go, and start this kicking carousel all over again.

I agree, Santos is very young by kicking standards. AT WORST I would sign him and bring in competition in camp.
I'm surprised he didn't do ARP therapy (hurts like a mother fucker I'm told) like Cutler did when he tore his groin.
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southdakbearfan wrote:If you cut white it's all dead money as his last year is 100% guaranteed. No way around it being a 5.3 million dead cap money hit.

Glennon 11.5M(4.5M dead money)... No brainer cut.
McPhee 7M(1M dead money)... Needs to go.
Sims 5.6M(670k dead money)... Could go either way. $5.6M is a bit high, but big need area with both he and Miller gone.
Massie 5.6M(500k dead money)... Keep.
Wheaton 5M(750k dead money)... Absolutely gone.
Cooper 4.5M(1M dead money)... Keep maybe?
White 5.3M(no dead money)... Keep. Last chance contract year.
Demps 3.67M(667K dead money)... See ya.

My bad, I misread the White situation on overthecap.com. Don't think he is getting cut regardless, maybe a trade if they don't figure he will pan out.
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Moriarty wrote:It's not as good as it sounds.

That 40M figure involves the Bears having an almost league-low (tied for 2nd fewest) number of players under contract for 2018.

Just filling the bottom of the roster with near-minimum nobodies will cost you 14M right off.

It's good when you look at all the guys they can cut and get big savings without losing key players. They can free up 25-30M without really any drop off on the roster.

Cooper Demps McPhee Glennon and Wheaton would not be big losses...11.5+7+4.5+5+3.67=31.67M
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Richie wrote:
alexwilkins wrote:I really liked the Kendall Wright signing, but if we can keep Inman for reletively cheap, I'd take Jarvis Landry over him in a heart beat.(Obviously) He's like what he had at Chapel Hill in Ryan Switzer, only infinitely more talented.
Uh... Outside of Glennon, there's nobody who will cost us more than one million in dead cap. Most are under that mark.
And? The Glennon contact was double awful. Officially it'll hit as $4.5m dead money but is there any way it wasn't really $18.5m? It was a mistake of epic proportions.

Of the others, it doesn't matter that they're under $1m if there are too many of them. Wheaton, Cooper, Demps and Young are close to $2.5m. Houston is another million in 2018. Are we going to keep Sims for over $6m?

And what of Amukamara this year? $7m on another wasted year. The $5m already wasted on Cooper. Pace is pretty damn bad at free agency.

Also, to get me back on topic, I don't think that $40m includes the $8m we can roll over from this year.
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Glennon has offsets in his contract so if he signs somewhere for 4.5 million dollars, we are absolved.
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G08 wrote:Glennon has offsets in his contract so if he signs somewhere for 4.5 million dollars, we are absolved.
Even better.
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G08 wrote:Glennon has offsets in his contract so if he signs somewhere for 4.5 million dollars, we are absolved.
Cool. He’ll sign somewhere, so we’ll get at least a chunk of that back.
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We paid $18.5 million to see if he could be a starter in this league and to throw the scent off that we were hot for Trubisky..

He clearly cannot be a starter in the NFL.
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G08 wrote:Glennon has offsets in his contract so if he signs somewhere for 4.5 million dollars, we are absolved.
Got a link? Not questioning, just interested!

Not sure he'll even make that much next year though and a $14.5m waste of cap space this year is still the difference between us signing Bouye and Wagner. Oh and in case someone mentions that we made them offers, add a split of $14.5m to their offers from the Jaguars and Lions and tell me they don't sign with us.

Anyway, if that's the case we could have an incredible amount of cap space next year. Over $100m if we include Glennon, McPhee, Sims, Massie, Wheaton, Cooper, Young, Demps and Freeman.

Now I don't think we make that may cuts, Sims and Massie are the obvious hold overs and I could see Demps and Freeman stick around. Still that's a pile of cash even after filling up the empty roster spots for $12m or whatever. Also bear in mind that if you are filling up those roster spots with a cap hold amount, then you can knock half a million of the cap cost of new signings in their first year.
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yeah, he'll absolutely sign somewhere for league minimum. which'll be a smidge under 800k for mike.
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http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bear ... non-12354/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

2018 offset available, 2019 roster bonus will not be met.
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G08 wrote:http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bear ... non-12354/

2018 offset available, 2019 roster bonus will not be met.
So if his 2018 salary is $2.5m or more we offset that amount or am I reading that wrong?
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malk wrote:
G08 wrote:http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bear ... non-12354/

2018 offset available, 2019 roster bonus will not be met.
So if his 2018 salary is $2.5m or more we offset that amount or am I reading that wrong?
I took it to mean we have $4.5 in dead money, $2.5 of which is next season but can be offset if a team signs him for at least $2.5 million, which they will. As for 2019, I'm a little confused there but I believe he can't earn that roster bonus since he will not be here and if he's on another roster it will be covered..
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RustyTrubisky wrote:yeah, he'll absolutely sign somewhere for league minimum. which'll be a smidge under 800k for mike.
He’ll get backup qb money, so at least a couple million.
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