Chip Kelly/Mark Helfrich "Concepts" in Chicago?

[Atkins&Rebel]

Anyone who cares too much who's offense this is needs a hobby.

'As long as it works' is the motto!

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Here is a great article that was embedded in one that someone posted. This is the Four Verticals concept, and a fascinating read. I would expect to see quite a bit of this next year.

Four Verticals Concept

[malk]

Where did all the straw men come from? Seems to be happening a lot recently.

I haven't seen anyone suggest it won't be Nagy's offence. I have seen some nice reads and discussion on what concepts and previous coaches might inform the makeup of his offence.

[docc]

UH,,

[Hematite]

If Trubisky takes that leap next year like all good QB's usually do in their 2nd year, with the new offense coming in (and new/healthy weapons on the outside), I can see him putting up a monster year (3500+ yds, 20+ TD's). Goff had 3800 and 28 td's this year for comparison.

A lot of faith obviously goes into coaching him up, but Nagy's success with Smith sure provides confidence in that happening. I'm starting to feel the effects of the kool aid!

[G08]

It should be some creative minds coming together and creating an offense that will best suit Mitch and our weapons. It's a nice departure from the Mike Martzs and Dowell Loggains of the world (i.e. this is my system and this is the only way I will function).

[Hematite]

Of every addition Nagy made, Helfrich is by far the most polarizing to me. Especially since he's going to help design the offense Nagy will be implementing for Trubisky and company.
On one hand, the spread concepts he undertook at Oregon with Marcus Mariota and a variety of other quarterbacks for a prolific Ducks offense is intriguing in a mesh of Nagy's version of the West Coast offense. With these two brainstorming Chicago's attack, expect high tempo fireworks that feature a bevy of pro and college concepts to keep defenses on their heels. The ideal would be another NFL offensive innovation not limited to the buzzword run-pass options of 2017. A West Coast spread option hybrid offense the league isn't prepared to handle..
On the other hand, Helfrich has never coached at the NFL level, a fact that he alluded to as much that could be a concern for his transition to the professional game last week. Coaching amateurs in a simplistic offense is drastically different from dealing with paid grown men of which most are physical freakishly sized and fast specimens. His adjustment in this niche will be key to how the Bears' offense as a whole adapts over time.
It's a good thing Helfrich is intelligent enough to be prepared for this once he gets comfortable, because the core tenets of football are the same at any level, regardless of the level of competition. He'll undoubtedly remind himself of this constantly at first.
Luckily enough, Nagy will be handling the play-calling as the head orchestral maestro, so Helfrich's primary role will be assisting in the development of Trubisky and in the designs of an extensive, but advantageous playbook. The 44-year-old will receive a lot of credit should he help the Bears' offense flourish. Or, if the plan fails, crash and burn out of the league. As boom or bust in an out-of-the-box hire as it gets.

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Lets hope for the good of this franchise, Helfrich is getting tons of credit as Trubisky flourishes!!

[Hematite]

Some more interesting tidbits...

"He can do it all in his head. He doesn't have to draw the pictures on the board," Koetter said. "Not many people can do that."
"He sees the game through the quarterback's eyes. We all have ideas, but if your quarterback can't execute those ideas, they are lines on a paper. Mark is as smart a football guy as I know."

Koetter took Helfrich with him from Oregon to Boise State and then Arizona State. Record-setting quarterbacks followed.

"Since he got with Chip, Mark won't give me all their spread secrets," Koetter said. "They definitely know what they are looking for in how defenses adjust to their spread."

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I really think Nagy hit a home run with the hiring of Helfrich as OC. Nagy had his hand in the spread concepts implemented in Kansas City and went out and hired somebody with a far greater understanding of this type of offense. The ability to blend the WCO and the Spread offense with 2 coaches deeply rooted in their respective offenses is exciting to say the least.

I can't wait!

[malk]

On the other hand, Helfrich has never coached at the NFL level, a fact that he alluded to as much that could be a concern for his transition to the professional game last week. Coaching amateurs in a simplistic offense is drastically different from dealing with paid grown men of which most are physical freakishly sized and fast specimens. His adjustment in this niche will be key to how the Bears' offense as a whole adapts over time.

I find this a bit strange. Helfrich's presser mentioned quite a bit about the transition from college to pros but the difference was about how little practise time they get in the NFL compared to college. Unless I read it completely wrong.

[Atkins&Rebel]

On the other hand, Helfrich has never coached at the NFL level, a fact that he alluded to as much that could be a concern for his transition to the professional game last week. Coaching amateurs in a simplistic offense is drastically different from dealing with paid grown men of which most are physical freakishly sized and fast specimens. His adjustment in this niche will be key to how the Bears' offense as a whole adapts over time.

I find this a bit strange. Helfrich's presser mentioned quite a bit about the transition from college to pros but the difference was about how little practise time they get in the NFL compared to college. Unless I read it completely wrong.

IMO, the transition difference is in what the QB and the WR read pre snap, the verbiage associated with calling plays, and giving WR's option routes. After that it's just football. Finding soft spots in zones, beating press, setting up players in man coverage for when you're the first read on a play...catching the ball.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I really think Nagy hit a home run with the hiring of Helfrich as OC. Nagy had his hand in the spread concepts implemented in Kansas City and went out and hired somebody with a far greater understanding of this type of offense. The ability to blend the WCO and the Spread offense with 2 coaches deeply rooted in their respective offenses is exciting to say the least.

I can't wait!

I have been saying this since the day they hired him. It was pure genius. Not sure what prompted it, or why, but I don't care. It will be Nagy's offense, a WCO to be sure. But sprinkle in some of the concepts that they ran at Oregon, and Hellfrich's experience with coaching QB's in this style of offense. If they can keep the band together for three years, you will start to see some serious shit in year two. I am ecstatic at the OC hire.

[Hematite]

I really think Nagy hit a home run with the hiring of Helfrich as OC. Nagy had his hand in the spread concepts implemented in Kansas City and went out and hired somebody with a far greater understanding of this type of offense. The ability to blend the WCO and the Spread offense with 2 coaches deeply rooted in their respective offenses is exciting to say the least.

I can't wait!

I have been saying this since the day they hired him. It was pure genius. Not sure what prompted it, or why, but I don't care. It will be Nagy's offense, a WCO to be sure. But sprinkle in some of the concepts that they ran at Oregon, and Hellfrich's experience with coaching QB's in this style of offense. If they can keep the band together for three years, you will start to see some serious shit in year two. I am ecstatic at the OC hire.

IMO, Nagy wanted to incorporate more of the spread into the WCO as he showed this year in KC. Pace talked about the collaborative effort that Nagy seemed to portray. Well, Nagy hired Helfrich, his spread offense professor, so that he could be his student while incorporating this offense!! Let's hope Nagy is before his time and has a combination that is sustainable!

Trubisky is kissing titties as we speak!

[Mikefive]

I really think Nagy hit a home run with the hiring of Helfrich as OC. Nagy had his hand in the spread concepts implemented in Kansas City and went out and hired somebody with a far greater understanding of this type of offense. The ability to blend the WCO and the Spread offense with 2 coaches deeply rooted in their respective offenses is exciting to say the least.

I can't wait!

I have been saying this since the day they hired him. It was pure genius. Not sure what prompted it, or why, but I don't care. It will be Nagy's offense, a WCO to be sure. But sprinkle in some of the concepts that they ran at Oregon, and Hellfrich's experience with coaching QB's in this style of offense. If they can keep the band together for three years, you will start to see some serious shit in year two. I am ecstatic at the OC hire.

IMO, Nagy wanted to incorporate more of the spread into the WCO as he showed this year in KC. Pace talked about the collaborative effort that Nagy seemed to portray. Well, Nagy hired Helfrich, his spread offense professor, so that he could be his student while incorporating this offense!! Let's hope Nagy is before his time and has a combination that is sustainable!

Trubisky is kissing titties as we speak!

I read comments like this and think... Maybe Nagy thought about it and asked himself what MUST happen for him to succeed. And at the top of the list is... Mitch Trubisky MUST succeed. So who should I get who would know how to have positive ideas for using Biscuit in the college concepts that allowed him to elevate from being a nobody to the 2nd pick in the NFL draft. And the answer to that question was Mark Helfrich.

[Hematite]

I really think Nagy hit a home run with the hiring of Helfrich as OC. Nagy had his hand in the spread concepts implemented in Kansas City and went out and hired somebody with a far greater understanding of this type of offense. The ability to blend the WCO and the Spread offense with 2 coaches deeply rooted in their respective offenses is exciting to say the least.

I can't wait!

I have been saying this since the day they hired him. It was pure genius. Not sure what prompted it, or why, but I don't care. It will be Nagy's offense, a WCO to be sure. But sprinkle in some of the concepts that they ran at Oregon, and Hellfrich's experience with coaching QB's in this style of offense. If they can keep the band together for three years, you will start to see some serious shit in year two. I am ecstatic at the OC hire.

IMO, Nagy wanted to incorporate more of the spread into the WCO as he showed this year in KC. Pace talked about the collaborative effort that Nagy seemed to portray. Well, Nagy hired Helfrich, his spread offense professor, so that he could be his student while incorporating this offense!! Let's hope Nagy is before his time and has a combination that is sustainable!

Trubisky is kissing titties as we speak!

I read comments like this and think... Maybe Nagy thought about it and asked himself what MUST happen for him to succeed. And at the top of the list is... Mitch Trubisky MUST succeed. So who should I get who would know how to have positive ideas for using Biscuit in the college concepts that allowed him to elevate from being a nobody to the 2nd pick in the NFL draft. And the answer to that question was Mark Helfrich.

Bingo...and who was one of the established Qb's in the NFL that flourished under these ideas who Trubisky has been compared to......Alex Smith!

[docc]

Make this happen.. Offense was injured and awful
Chicago Bears
4th NFC North
| 5-11

Passing Yards
32nd
192.8 PYPG
Rushing Yards
16th
111.8 RYPG
Total Yards Per Game
31st
304.6 YPG

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

Long announced that he was having more surgeries this off-season. I think with the hiring of Nagy and Hellfrich, that Long is highly-motivated to get healthy, and to be part of this. I can't say I would blame him if he was dragging his feet during the Fox era.

[UOK]

Long announced that he was having more surgeries this off-season. I think with the hiring of Nagy and Hellfrich, that Long is highly-motivated to get healthy, and to be part of this. I can't say I would blame him if he was dragging his feet during the Fox era.

I think Long is highly motivated about everything he does. That's helped him (get healthy quicker) and hurt him (he goes 100% even if his body is at 60%).

I don't believe he or most of the rest of the Bears during the Fox tenure (with the exceptions of Alshon Jeffery & Kyle Fuller) were less than enthusiastic to return to the team when it comes to evaluating their own injuries. That trait isn't in Long's DNA. He'd fall on a grenade for his teammates and coaches, but unfortunately his body may not be up for the task.

That said, good coaching CAN help keep him healthy. Most of Long's injuries have come because of poor technique and execution from his teammates (hence getting constantly rolled up on), and while yes, some of that is simply "football stuff," improved form and execution (and better talent) will result in plays finishing more soundly, allowing less penetration from defenders and more downhill momentum from runners.

At least in theory.

[Hematite]

Love this guys mentality.

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