Confirmed: WR Allen Robinson signs 3yr $42M deal

Mikefive · Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:14 pm

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G08 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:23 pm

They would be stupid to let him go... and I'm terrified he isn't a fit in our offense

mmmc_35 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:51 pm

G08 wrote:They would be stupid to let him go... and I'm terrified he isn't a fit in our offense

Fit the offense? What are you talking a bout? His skills set can work in basically every system other then the wishbone.

thunderspirit · Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:52 pm

Looking at his Combine and pro day numbers in 2014 (and assuming his knee recovers), Allen Robinson would seen to fit Nagy's offense very well. He meets all the thresholds (sub 4.51 40 time, 35.5+ inch vertical, 10'+ broad jump) and a ridiculous 3-cone time of 6.54.

G08 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 5:54 pm

mmmc_35 wrote:
G08 wrote:They would be stupid to let him go... and I'm terrified he isn't a fit in our offense
Fit the offense? What are you talking a bout? His skills set can work in basically every system other then the wishbone.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the dude, I just worry Nagy is going to want shorter/faster dudes.

Had a 4.60 dash at the Combine, but redeemed himself with a 4.47 at his Pro Day so that certainly helps. The 6.54 cone is redonk.

Not. Getting. My. Hopes. Up.....

mmmc_35 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:06 pm

Andy Reid may have preferred that type, but do
It didn't stop him from using a guy like TO.

IotaNet · Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:21 pm

Anybody checked out this pic on his Instagram?
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southdakbearfan · Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:22 pm

Is Nagy and Pace going to want multiple starter WR's coming off ACLs that most likely won't be able to participate in offseason program and training camp while instilling a new offense with a young QB?

The Marshall Plan · Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:38 pm

G08 wrote:They would be stupid to let him go... and I'm terrified he isn't a fit in our offense

Sometimes you need to adapt the system for the type of talent you have. We're in a situation with a shit ton of cap room and we need talent.

I'm surprised Jax is letting him go, but we need to get players.

Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:41 pm

southdakbearfan wrote:Is Nagy and Pace going to want multiple starter WR's coming off ACLs that most likely won't be able to participate in offseason program and training camp while instilling a new offense with a young QB?

This is my issue with bringing in Robinson.

BR0D1E86 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:49 pm

wab wrote:
southdakbearfan wrote:Is Nagy and Pace going to want multiple starter WR's coming off ACLs that most likely won't be able to participate in offseason program and training camp while instilling a new offense with a young QB?
This is my issue with bringing in Robinson.

I’d be willing to deal to add a guy with his talent. Plus they both got hurt so early they should be good to go for training camp. Might be sidelined for the offseason stuff though.

Edit: specifically on Cam, this article says he should be ready for training camp. Robinson was only hurt a couple weeks later:

Cam Meredith (knee surgery) will be built up during the organized team activity period and ready for training camp.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/fiv ... mbine/amp/

G08 · Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:56 pm

I'd love to bring him in, but I'm not holding my breath at this point.

southdakbearfan · Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:11 pm

If he could produce, I would love him. But there is still a large percentage of NFL players that never make it back from ACL injuries and the drop off in performance is real.

Adrian Peterson, Frank Gore and Jeremy Maclin are the outliers and not the norm. But, on a whole it's not as surefire of a return to previous performance that many make it out to be these days.

I glance through a couple articles from the last 3 years and all three said about the same thing for NFL WR's and RB's, 20% never make it back, performance drop off is about 1 tier on average (probowl prior = average starter after) and that career longevity is about 2 years less.

I would imagine those numbers are improving all the time as the surgery itself, rehab and other things improve over time. Hell it wasn't that many years ago and ACL was a career ender for sure. Also there is the caveat that all ACL injuries are definitely not the same because of the differences in the amount of damage to other ligaments, nerves, meniscus and other parts of the joint.

Mikefive · Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:11 pm

Ian Rapoport says that ARob won't be tagged.

mmmc_35 · Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:35 pm

Well I think he should be target numero uno.

Atkins&Rebel · Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:12 pm

mmmc_35 wrote:Well I think he should be target numero uno.

It wouldn't hurt if he posted a vid on twitter of him doing some route running, catching and cutting, "to show us fans (in Jacksonville), that he's doing well". Make the blind dash at midnight :00.01 to sign a contract more palatable.

Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:16 pm

Gah, all of these guys comes with so many questions.

Is Robinson healthy?
Is Landry a #1 WR
Is Watkins ever going to be consistent
Is Wilson an upgrade over Wright

Blah...

southdakbearfan · Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:18 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/jaguarswire.usatoday.com/2018/01/24/watch-allen-robinson-posts-a-video-of-his-rehab-progress/amp/No route running, but running.

Bears Whiskey Nut · Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:29 pm

Mikefive wrote:Ian Rapoport says that ARob won't be tagged.

My first questions would be this. Why not? What do the Jags know that we don't?

Bears Whiskey Nut · Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:30 pm

wab wrote:Gah, all of these guys comes with so many questions.

Is Robinson healthy?
Is Landry a #1 WR
Is Watkins ever going to be consistent
Is Wilson an upgrade over Wright

Blah...

Regarding Allen Robinson, the first one is my big concern. Why aren't the Jags tagging him.

Nanky · Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:31 pm

Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
Mikefive wrote:Ian Rapoport says that ARob won't be tagged.
My first questions would be this. Why not? What do the Jags know that we don't?

They have cap issues, and putting the tag on him would severely limit what they can do the rest of free agency. That's my take on it anyways.

BR0D1E86 · Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:14 pm

Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
Mikefive wrote:Ian Rapoport says that ARob won't be tagged.
My first questions would be this. Why not? What do the Jags know that we don't?

That their cap situation isn’t that great?

Atkins&Rebel · Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:52 pm

They also had some young WR's step up who will be cheaper.

Umbali · Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:52 pm

Maybe because they almost made it to the superbowl without him? Maybe they seem themselves as a running team? Maybe they dont think their QB can get the ball to their WRs consistently enough to tag a WR at that price? lol who knows?

G08 · Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:18 pm

Brad Biggs: Allen Robinson is believed to be the Bears #1 target in FA at WR

mmmc_35 · Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:10 am

G08 wrote:Brad Biggs: Allen Robinson is believed to be the Bears #1 target in FA at WR

Good.

46Blitz · Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:12 am

I like the player. Wouldn't be upset in getting him. Even though several players have made good comebacks after the same injury, it would scare me to death in having Robinson, White and Merideth as our starting groupe.

Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:01 am

G08 wrote:Brad Biggs: Allen Robinson is believed to be the Bears #1 target in FA at WR

Just a week ago they were reporting that Landry was their #1 FA Target.

G08 · Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:08 am

wab wrote:
G08 wrote:Brad Biggs: Allen Robinson is believed to be the Bears #1 target in FA at WR
Just a week ago they were reporting that Landry was their #1 FA Target.

Right? Then was on a radio hit and predicted Robinson goes to the 49ers.

BR0D1E86 · Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:00 am

wab wrote:
G08 wrote:Brad Biggs: Allen Robinson is believed to be the Bears #1 target in FA at WR
Just a week ago they were reporting that Landry was their #1 FA Target.

Landry isn’t a free agent any more though, so he could have been at the time.