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Kwiatkoski played all three spots in Gibson’s 3-3-5 at WVU. He’s spent some time coming off the edge - though he wasn’t necessarily productive.
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Pass Rush will be somewhat of a weakness, at least from an Edge perspective until we address it again early in next year's draft where the talent for Edge rushers is going to be muuuuch better and deeper. At least it will be on paper as of right now.
I'm really hoping Floyd can take that next step and be the double digit sack guy for us. He's shown a lot of promise and flashes - but he needs to stay on the field and produce consistently.
I'm really hoping Floyd can take that next step and be the double digit sack guy for us. He's shown a lot of promise and flashes - but he needs to stay on the field and produce consistently.
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Fangio has been pretty adamant that he doesn't like to blitz so I don't think we'll see too much more zone blitz tan we have. Maybe against certain teams who's QB folds in the face of the blitz, but not against Rodgers.
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Is Dee Ford still available? Walterfootball shows him as available but that can't be right.
I'd like to bring back Houston but I'd pass on Willy Young.
Any chance we could trade Shane Ray away from Denver?
I'd like to bring back Houston but I'd pass on Willy Young.
Any chance we could trade Shane Ray away from Denver?
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Bringing back Houston is an OK idea, if someone gets hurt. But bring him back, just to have, would cost the development time of someone younger. He would be just fine, and I wouldn't mind it. I'd rather see how Lynch and Fitts work out for the team first.
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Who is he blocking the development time of?VA_Mountain_Bear wrote:Bringing back Houston is an OK idea, if someone gets hurt. But bring him back, just to have, would cost the development time of someone younger. He would be just fine, and I wouldn't mind it. I'd rather see how Lynch and Fitts work out for the team first.
I don't think Houston is coming back but I think people forget that his first year, with the injury, was with Mel Tucker as DC. Everybody sucked.
In 2015 he moved to linebacker and led the team with 8 sacks whilst playing only 40.4% of the defensive snaps.
2016 he tore his other ACL.
2017 he was third on the team in sacks with 4 playing 21.8% of defensive snaps. Worth noting that that was over 5 games so 21.8% out of a possible 31.25%.
His durability might be in question (though he's clearly fully back from both ACL tears) but I absolutely fail to see how he wouldn't contribute in Vic's scheme as a bit part player. He'll be available for little more than the vet min so I'd bring him in in a flash.
EDIT, corrected ok to of in the first sentence.
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Yeah I think Wabs idea is more for base, and I only remember him rushing from inside at WVU. However i am sure her has from other areas.Hiphopopotamos wrote:Kwiatkoski played all three spots in Gibson’s 3-3-5 at WVU. He’s spent some time coming off the edge - though he wasn’t necessarily productive.
I had no clue he was still in the league. I just remember we were desperate in 2013 after a wave of injuries. We signed him off the street and plugged him in vs Baltimore in that tornado situation. Had a pick six. I'll always remember him for that. lolNanky wrote:You can take David Bass off the list . . .
Jets re-signed OLB David Bass.
Bass recorded 3.5 sacks in 13 games with the Jets last year. He should compete for a rotational role in camp.
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Also, Lamar Houston is 30 years old. He proved to me last year in a limited sample that he's got something left in the tank.
I'm not saying he's the long term answer, but I'd feel much better with him on the roster backing up Lynch and Floyd.
I'm not saying he's the long term answer, but I'd feel much better with him on the roster backing up Lynch and Floyd.
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The Bears relative inactivity at the edge rusher position tells me they have a plan for the guys they have. IMO, that plan is seeing if Lynch can rekindle the production he had under Fangio with the Niners. The rest of that plan involves drafting a pass rusher next year if he can't.
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Shane Ray (DEN) will not have his 5th year option picked up.
If Elway comes calling and says he'll take a 4th for him, do you do it?
If Elway comes calling and says he'll take a 4th for him, do you do it?
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I might. I'd prefer to give him Bullard though.G08 wrote:Shane Ray (DEN) will not have his 5th year option picked up.
If Elway comes calling and says he'll take a 4th for him, do you do it?
Could be a better fit for both players. I believe Denver is running a 4-3 now. Bullard seems a bit better suited there with Ray a bit better suited to our defense.wab wrote:I might. I'd prefer to give him Bullard though.G08 wrote:Shane Ray (DEN) will not have his 5th year option picked up.
If Elway comes calling and says he'll take a 4th for him, do you do it?
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The Bears (Fangio or Pace) seem to want the 1 gap 3T type player for their 4I position. It explains Bullard, Nicholas, I think the 49ers drafted 2 DL in his stay one a more traditional 5T and the other more of a 3T.BR0D1E86 wrote:Could be a better fit for both players. I believe Denver is running a 4-3 now. Bullard seems a bit better suited there with Ray a bit better suited to our defense.wab wrote:I might. I'd prefer to give him Bullard though.G08 wrote:Shane Ray (DEN) will not have his 5th year option picked up.
If Elway comes calling and says he'll take a 4th for him, do you do it?
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We have cap space, I say give him a good deal that is incentive laden and just moderate guarantees. I'd be happy with a 1 year $5 mil deal. If he plays in 15 games then gets a $2 mil bonus.cblaz11 wrote:Cliff Avril released.
Not sure about the neck injury, but he said he wants to continue playing.
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Cliff Avril is 32 and just failed his physical after a neck injury last October. Interesting consideration if you're a pass rusher away from winning a SB. But a bad idea for us.
If Pace could somehow manage to go thru the draft without doing better than picking up Aaron Lynch at that spot and then pulling a rabbit out of a hat to find a pass rusher ala Josh Sitton, he should be in the running for front office exec of the year.
If Pace could somehow manage to go thru the draft without doing better than picking up Aaron Lynch at that spot and then pulling a rabbit out of a hat to find a pass rusher ala Josh Sitton, he should be in the running for front office exec of the year.
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No thanks to Avril for the reasons Fiver mentioned.
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