Heard Tom Thayer say that on the most recent "All Access" podcast just now.
I laughed because it sort of hit the nail on the head pertaining to what I've been thinking while viewing/listening to all of these pressers. However, I have not been able to articulate it quite correctly. He did the job.
I think that there would be some positive vibes within the fan-base right now, no matter what. However, I think it's facilitated even more so by the "likability" these guys give off on the podium. Nagy, Trubs, the rookies, Burton... etc... Always smiling, always positive, always saying the "right" thing and they make it feel genuine. Which is actually the part where most teams fall short.
Kind of just a funny observation. This team is so absent of drama. I personally don't give a damn about that stuff, so long as the results come on the field. However, I admit... it's a tad refreshing compared to the past handful of seasons. Especially seeing as there's a fair amount of drama elsewhere in this league.
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I completely agree. Yesterday I heard a clip of Nagy talking about Biscut watching tape of his throws in practice. My first thought was "Trubisky " is killing it. Then I realized he never said any thing like what I interpreted.
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Really good point. And it honestly scares me a little. Not because positive vibes mean the opposite is true, but that our "we want the Bears to do well" biases are all so massaged by the good vibes that we're really blissfully ignorant of any negatives. That's why I like listening to Fangio as I feel like he's the most... let's call it transparent member of the coaching staff.
Don't get me wrong, Nagy vs. Fox in press conferences are worlds apart with Nagy being the vastly more enjoyable listen. But he just feeds the positivity which we all find so refreshing. How could it not be?
Don't get me wrong, Nagy vs. Fox in press conferences are worlds apart with Nagy being the vastly more enjoyable listen. But he just feeds the positivity which we all find so refreshing. How could it not be?
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What will be interesting is how Nagy responds to adversity when things don't start going as well as planned. Will he still be willing to show his frustrations/disappointment, maybe even criticise publicly/etc or will he still be this bundle of positivity and see everything through rose tinted glasses...
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This is key. We'll all know much more about Nagy when there's losses he has to answer for.skamanfrank wrote:What will be interesting is how Nagy responds to adversity when things don't start going as well as planned. Will he still be willing to show his frustrations/disappointment, maybe even criticise publicly/etc or will he still be this bundle of positivity and see everything through rose tinted glasses...
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Heard a clip stating that Nagy is kind of a disciplinarian inside the locker room. Sounds like John Fox was a little too buddy-buddy with the guys last season whereas Nagy is setting rules immediately and making sure they are followed.
I really don't give a shit what he says to the media. Selfishly as a fan, of course I want to know everything... but the coaches don't owe us that. Being pleasant or salty to the media does nothing for me, just win games.
I really don't give a shit what he says to the media. Selfishly as a fan, of course I want to know everything... but the coaches don't owe us that. Being pleasant or salty to the media does nothing for me, just win games.
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Richie wrote:Heard Tom Thayer say that on the most recent "All Access" podcast just now.
I laughed because it sort of hit the nail on the head pertaining to what I've been thinking while viewing/listening to all of these pressers. However, I have not been able to articulate it quite correctly. He did the job.
I think that there would be some positive vibes within the fan-base right now, no matter what. However, I think it's facilitated even more so by the "likability" these guys give off on the podium. Nagy, Trubs, the rookies, Burton... etc... Always smiling, always positive, always saying the "right" thing and they make it feel genuine. Which is actually the part where most teams fall short.
Kind of just a funny observation. This team is so absent of drama. I personally don't give a damn about that stuff, so long as the results come on the field. However, I admit... it's a tad refreshing compared to the past handful of seasons. Especially seeing as there's a fair amount of drama elsewhere in this league.
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This. Right. Here.skamanfrank wrote:What will be interesting is how Nagy responds to adversity when things don't start going as well as planned. Will he still be willing to show his frustrations/disappointment, maybe even criticise publicly/etc or will he still be this bundle of positivity and see everything through rose tinted glasses...
Don’t get me wrong — I BLEED Navy & Orange (and I am a Nagy GUY!) but, it’s easy when you don’t have a loss to your name as a HC to be Suzy Sunshine. Let’s see how things sound during the inevitable 4 game losing streak.
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Yeah, no doubt. It's easy right now to be positive. You guys are correct.IotaNet wrote:This. Right. Here.skamanfrank wrote:What will be interesting is how Nagy responds to adversity when things don't start going as well as planned. Will he still be willing to show his frustrations/disappointment, maybe even criticise publicly/etc or will he still be this bundle of positivity and see everything through rose tinted glasses...
Don’t get me wrong — I BLEED Navy & Orange (and I am a Nagy GUY!) but, it’s easy when you don’t have a loss to your name as a HC to be Suzy Sunshine. Let’s see how things sound during the inevitable 4 game losing streak.
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UOK wrote:This is key. We'll all know much more about Nagy when there's losses he has to answer for.skamanfrank wrote:What will be interesting is how Nagy responds to adversity when things don't start going as well as planned. Will he still be willing to show his frustrations/disappointment, maybe even criticise publicly/etc or will he still be this bundle of positivity and see everything through rose tinted glasses...
I am of the opinion Nagy will maintain during adversity ... I think he will probably be a bit more honest and open with his post game pressers, but I don't expect him to throw players under the bus and he can certainly hold them accountable without doing so
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Just in case anyone is getting too positive, Jeremy Stoltz at scout.com who I'm a big fan of, mentioned in his camp notes that Sims, White and Daniels have all been pretty awful so far, although everything else on both sides of the ball sounds very promising so I'm definitely going to enjoy feeling stupidly positive about this season
I seriously don't understand these f'n people reporting on these mini-camp drills/scrimmages hanging on every moment. lolTheSting wrote:Just in case anyone is getting too positive, Jeremy Stoltz at scout.com who I'm a big fan of, mentioned in his camp notes that Sims, White and Daniels have all been pretty awful so far, although everything else on both sides of the ball sounds very promising so I'm definitely going to enjoy feeling stupidly positive about this season
It's baffling to me. There's journalists who count TD's and INT's for QB's and WR/TE's... Then they try to create a buzz over it. It's ridiculous.
Not knocking Stoltz, he has a good reputation. I just mean, in general... it's kind of nuts.
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Neon Dion is an overpaid backup TE.
White has been a bust for years now.
Daniels is a rookie (who many said was a steal when we drafted him) with one of the best OL coaches in the game teaching him; I'm not worried.
White has been a bust for years now.
Daniels is a rookie (who many said was a steal when we drafted him) with one of the best OL coaches in the game teaching him; I'm not worried.
sorry i meant Chase Daniel QB not our new rookieThe Marshall Plan wrote:Neon Dion is an overpaid backup TE.
White has been a bust for years now.
Daniels is a rookie (who many said was a steal when we drafted him) with one of the best OL coaches in the game teaching him; I'm not worried.
I know what you mean, but JS is good because he doesn't go over the top and tries to be balanced, I was just making a daft post after everyone was being all positive, and I don't work for scout, just a JS fanboyRichie wrote:I seriously don't understand these f'n people reporting on these mini-camp drills/scrimmages hanging on every moment. lolTheSting wrote:Just in case anyone is getting too positive, Jeremy Stoltz at scout.com who I'm a big fan of, mentioned in his camp notes that Sims, White and Daniels have all been pretty awful so far, although everything else on both sides of the ball sounds very promising so I'm definitely going to enjoy feeling stupidly positive about this season
It's baffling to me. There's journalists who count TD's and INT's for QB's and WR/TE's... Then they try to create a buzz over it. It's ridiculous.
Not knocking Stoltz, he has a good reputation. I just mean, in general... it's kind of nuts.
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Well when Bellamy was getting playing time because he was blowing Fox, that is to be expected. lolG08 wrote:Heard a clip stating that Nagy is kind of a disciplinarian inside the locker room. Sounds like John Fox was a little too buddy-buddy with the guys last season whereas Nagy is setting rules immediately and making sure they are followed.
I really don't give a shit what he says to the media. Selfishly as a fan, of course I want to know everything... but the coaches don't owe us that. Being pleasant or salty to the media does nothing for me, just win games.
IDC if we get the hatred and shit rep that NE gets, if we get the general support NO got after Katrina, or if we are a team of thug assholes that is reminiscent of the Bad Boy Pistons of the 80s-90s.
As long as we win for a change.
Yeah, like I said. Wasn't a knock at you or JS. Not in the least. It just conjured up thoughts about people who stir the pot by reeling off TD/INT stat lines by QB's in mini-camp. I'll never forget when ESPN made a big deal about Jimmy Graham catching "11 TD's!!!" in his first Seahawks mini-camp practice. lolTheSting wrote:I know what you mean, but JS is good because he doesn't go over the top and tries to be balanced, I was just making a daft post after everyone was being all positive, and I don't work for scout, just a JS fanboyRichie wrote:I seriously don't understand these f'n people reporting on these mini-camp drills/scrimmages hanging on every moment. lolTheSting wrote:Just in case anyone is getting too positive, Jeremy Stoltz at scout.com who I'm a big fan of, mentioned in his camp notes that Sims, White and Daniels have all been pretty awful so far, although everything else on both sides of the ball sounds very promising so I'm definitely going to enjoy feeling stupidly positive about this season
It's baffling to me. There's journalists who count TD's and INT's for QB's and WR/TE's... Then they try to create a buzz over it. It's ridiculous.
Not knocking Stoltz, he has a good reputation. I just mean, in general... it's kind of nuts.