Update - Tyrod Taylor stays in Buffalo

[Cutty makes me Drink]

whats your guys opinion of maybe trying to bring in Tyrod Taylor?

[wab]

whats your guys opinion of maybe trying to bring in Tyrod Taylor?

I don't want anything to do with anything that has been around Rex Ryan.

[Funkster]

whats your guys opinion of maybe trying to bring in Tyrod Taylor?

I mentioned him in the Vikings thread. I think the biggest question regarding QB X is what is the expectation? Short term or long term?

I'm not 100% sold on that style of play in the NFL. I would much rather have a prototypical QB. Call me old school.

[Rusty Trombagent]

i like tyrod! i love that the bills gave him a chance, and if they let him go, lol... back to square one again with another rookie qb.
but guys like him arent going to succeed without a really great OC who understands how to use him. i dont know if we have that.

[BamaBear09]

whats your guys opinion of maybe trying to bring in Tyrod Taylor?

I mentioned him in the Vikings thread. I think the biggest question regarding QB X is what is the expectation? Short term or long term?

I'm not 100% sold on that style of play in the NFL. I would much rather have a prototypical QB. Call me old school.

I'm only looking short term here, as the long term answer isn't anywhere to be seen in this draft/FA class. I think the Bears will best be served by grabbing Mike McCoy as OC and seeing what he can coach out of Barkley/Hoyer/Shaw... Next years QB class looks pretty thick, so far.

[Cutty makes me Drink]

i like tyrod! i love that the bills gave him a chance, and if they let him go, lol... back to square one again with another rookie qb.
but guys like him arent going to succeed without a really great OC who understands how to use him. i dont know if we have that.

i know this doesn't really mean too much, but Loggains got the most out of Jake Locker till he kept getting hurt so much, not trying to sell this but just throwing it out there lol, but Tyrod i feel like could be a decent playmaker for us behind center, lots of if's to this, but if alshon comes back tyrod loves to chuck it, and if kevin white stays healtly he could be a sammy watkins type of player for tyrod, and considering the type of FA qb's that will be out there, id take tyrod all day, i know some of yall want hoyer back, which is fine, but id like to see tyrod

[Funkster]

I guess my only knock on Loggains is he abandoned the running game in the second half but still try to use play action to fool the defense. Now this is obviously an oustsider view, I don't know if they were trying to limit Howard's carries? Or just got behind in down and distance.

The offense as a unit had very little trouble moving the ball up and down the field. Getting into the end zone was a different story. The system works, and I believe Loggains will only become more balance knowing exactly what Howard is. I wouldn't be mad seeing him stick around for another season and watch them grow what they planted this season. Taylor does have an arm and can create havoc with his mobility but I still feel he has many unanswered question behind his play. I think I would lean more towards Kaepernick (even though he has an ugly as shit throwing motion) and his experience if we're talking more of the duel threat style QB.

[ysleblanc]

whats your guys opinion of maybe trying to bring in Tyrod Taylor?

The Bears could do worse than Taylor.

6058 passing yards the last 2 years in 29 games.

37 TD 12 iNT

over 1,100 rushing yards and 10 rush TD's.

He would be a guy to look at if the REALLY want to move on from Cutler. I'd rather start Taylor than Hoyer.

[ysleblanc]

In terms of Loggans, I think he did ok...hard to measure an OC with so many receiving options out and starting 3 different QB's 5+ games each.

can't really blame him for Barkley throwing a pile of picks, a lot of those throws were bad decisions, throwing into double or triple coverage.

[wab]

I'd rather just keep Hoyer and draft Watson than bring in Taylor. Hoyer is the type of journeyman QB that Fox prefers, and Watson is the type of young and exciting playmaker that Pace was after when he went balls to the wall for Mariota and came up short.

[Atkins&Rebel]

whats your guys opinion of maybe trying to bring in Tyrod Taylor?

The Bears could do worse than Taylor.

6058 passing yards the last 2 years in 29 games.

37 TD 12 iNT

over 1,100 rushing yards and 10 rush TD's.

He would be a guy to look at if the REALLY want to move on from Cutler. I'd rather start Taylor than Hoyer.

I think Taylor is a very good option. It would upgrade the position and not have us reaching or give us time to groom the long term fit.

I've seen a lot of Tyrod. In a strong running system, he's a great QB. If you ask him to throw it 50 times, he's going to fall well short of expectations.

He's a spot thrower on short routes, so most of his INT's come from guys not getting to their spot. He has better than average down field accuracy and Robert Woods is a FA this year if we don't want to gamble on Kevin White actually being a football player after 2 years.

What I would do, since he's still under contract from the Bills, is offer Cutler in a trade even up for him. That is the best value we could possible hope for from moving on from Cutler, and we get to choose where he goes so we don't get to see 'Super Jay' in our schedule next year.

I've always thought TT was an interesting player. But I haven't seen enough of his play to make a good call on whether to trade for him.

My first question goes to what docc said. Can what he does work in our offense? Or do we trust Loggains to "taylor" the offense to his strengths? (Yes, bad pun intended. ) We certainly have the running game to back him up.

Like I said, Taylor isn't going to morph into Peyton Manning any time soon as a pure passer. But when he has time in a play action offense, he can move the ball and be mostly accurate and isn't afraid to break contain to run for a 1st down.

Buffalo's problems this year stemmed from WR's being hurt a lot, and their defense was bad...plain and simple. The offense put up points.

[Boris13c]

Bills: QB Tyrod Taylor 'elected' to have groin surgery

The Buffalo Bills issued a statement Thursday, worded in a way that distances the team from quarterback Tyrod Taylor's decision to have groin surgery after seeking a second opinion.

"Bills QB Tyrod Taylor had a consultation visit yesterday with Dr. William Meyers [in Philadelphia] and elected to have surgery this morning," the statement said, confirming the surgery. "The Bills were informed late yesterday of this morning's procedure."

Taylor started the first 15 games of the season. In what the team termed a "business decision," the Bills deactivated Taylor for the season finale. The day after that game, Taylor publicly questioned his future in Buffalo.

Taylor's surgery could prevent the Bills from releasing him without a significant financial commitment.

Taylor has a clause in his contract that guarantees him his full $27.5 million base salary in 2017 if the Bills release him "due to a professional football injury suffered while performing his services under this Contract [and] Player is unable, in the sole judgment of Club's physicians, to perform his playing services for Club."

The Bills have until March 11 to pick up Taylor's option for the 2018-21 seasons that would guarantee him $30.75 million. If he remains on the roster March 12, Taylor will be guaranteed $27.5 million for the 2017 season.

A source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter last week that Taylor is expected to be recovered from the surgery by March, the beginning of free agency.

something a bit odd about this ... if the guy was hurt, it would seem the team should support medical intervention, yes?

maybe Taylor getting a second opinion and then going for the surgery is what peeved them?

[wab]

No one "elects" to have that shit. It's painful. I couldn't stand up for a month...

[Atkins&Rebel]

The issue with Taylor is the length of the commitment. I want to be able to get out of the contract after a couple of years. If that could be sorted I'd be very happy.

he's under contract until 2022, if we trade for him we get him with the base salaries listed here: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bill ... ylor-7899/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Rusty Trombagent]

Buffalo's problems this year stemmed from WR's being hurt a lot, and their defense was bad...plain and simple. The offense put up points.

So the biggest question with Tyrod is, he's used to his number one WR sammy watkins being a great player who's constantly injured. Could we create that kind of atmosphere here for him?

/writes alshon a check for 70 million

[docc]

Bills QB Tyrod Taylor has surgery to repair sports hernia
JOHN WAWROW (AP Sports Writer)
The Associated Press•Jan 5, 2017, 9:51 AM

BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Buffalo Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor is having surgery to repair a sports hernia that contributed to a groin injury he sustained this past season.

The Bills confirmed on Thursday that Taylor was having an operation shortly after the quarterback posted photos of himself in a hospital gown on his Snapchat account. The Bills said they were informed on Wednesday of Taylor's decision to have surgery after he met with William Meyers, a Philadelphia-area-based sports hernia specialist.

Taylor previously said he intended to get a second medical opinion this week on the severity of the injury. He went 7-8 this season and was benched in Buffalo's 30-10 season-ending loss at the New York Jets last weekend.

Taylor first appeared on the Bills injury report with a groin injury in the week leading up to a game at Oakland on Dec. 4.

The operation comes at a time when the second-year starter's future is uncertain in Buffalo.

In restructuring his contract this year and signing him to a five-year contract extension in August, the Bills retained the right to opt out of the deal by March. Next season's portion of the contract, worth about $30 million including bonuses, is guaranteed if Taylor is unable to pass his physical.

Not Gonna Happen...

[docc]

..Yep//

I posted this in the Barkley chaos thread..
BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP) -- Buffalo Bills quarterback Tyrod Taylor is having surgery to repair a sports hernia that contributed to a groin injury he sustained this past season.

The Bills confirmed on Thursday that Taylor was having an operation shortly after the quarterback posted photos of himself in a hospital gown on his Snapchat account. The Bills said they were informed on Wednesday of Taylor's decision to have surgery after he met with William Meyers, a Philadelphia-area-based sports hernia specialist.

Taylor previously said he intended to get a second medical opinion this week on the severity of the injury. He went 7-8 this season and was benched in Buffalo's 30-10 season-ending loss at the New York Jets last weekend.

Taylor first appeared on the Bills injury report with a groin injury in the week leading up to a game at Oakland on Dec. 4.

The operation comes at a time when the second-year starter's future is uncertain in Buffalo.

In restructuring his contract this year and signing him to a five-year contract extension in August, the Bills retained the right to opt out of the deal by March. Next season's portion of the contract, worth about $30 million including bonuses, is guaranteed if Taylor is unable to pass his physical.

No Ruptured Tyrod at $30,000,000

NFW..

[G08]

Alright question....

Let's say Deshaun Watson winds up becoming Tyrod Taylor... and let's say we are staring at him #3 overall or we can take Jonathan Allen, but in round two we take Brad Kaaya.

Are you okay with that?

[UOK]

You Tyrod Taylor loving dopes have polluted 7 or 8 threads with Tyrod Taylor discussion. Please post any and all comments about Tyrod Taylor, who isn't a Chicago Bear yet nor may be at all, in this thread. I'm going to move all related TT posts here from other threads so forgive the first couple pages of this thread as they may be jumbled and nonsensical.

[Cutty makes me Drink]

You Tyrod Taylor loving dopes have polluted 7 or 8 threads with Tyrod Taylor discussion. Please post any and all comments about Tyrod Taylor, who isn't a Chicago Bear yet nor may be at all, in this thread. I'm going to move all related TT posts here from other threads so forgive the first couple pages of this thread as they may be jumbled and nonsensical.

i like the new title tho

[G08]

I don't love him, I'm just seeing all this shit on twitter and it sparked some thoughts

[UOK]

I don't love him, I'm just seeing all this shit on twitter and it sparked some thoughts

It's cool man. It's a big possibility. I think he's the kind of player Pace would like here, but Hoyer I believe has the slight advantage.

[Cutty makes me Drink]

I don't love him, I'm just seeing all this shit on twitter and it sparked some thoughts

It's cool man. It's a big possibility. I think he's the kind of player Pace would like here, but Hoyer I believe has the slight advantage.

it is the type of player Pace likes, hes 27, just goin in his prime, can have a high ceiling and plays safe, hardly turns ball over, and has mobility outside of the pocket, plus the kid has a pretty deep ball, imagine him throwin to #17 and #13, has a lot of upside, is it the best choice? maybe not, but is it a real choice, more than likely

[Boris13c]

You Tyrod Taylor loving dopes have polluted 7 or 8 threads with Tyrod Taylor discussion.

you should know by now we, as a group, are like crack addled monkeys, unable to stay on topic for more than a post or 2 (or have you forgotten how every thread became a Cutler thread for a while?)

[G08]

My post was more to the point of: IF Deshaun Watson's ceiling is Tyrod Taylor, do we still draft him at 3?

[Boris13c]

My post was more to the point of: IF Deshaun Watson's ceiling is Tyrod Taylor, do we still draft him at 3?

if that is your question, my answer is no

[Cutty makes me Drink]

My post was more to the point of: IF Deshaun Watson's ceiling is Tyrod Taylor, do we still draft him at 3?

pshhh i mean i wouldnt be opposed to it, the only thing i think that would hold pace back from pulling the trigger on watson is what does his skills now translate to the nfl, i mean i know that obvious but the only thing is pace might say i already know what TT has im gonna roll with him as the safer choice cause if he drafts Watson and he turns into a RG3 he knows his time at GM might be over

[Boris13c]

you may want to revise the title again UOK - Taylor vs Watson ...

[UOK]

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Bills continue to have no intentions of picking up Tyrod Taylor's $15.5 million option bonus this offseason.

[Rusty Trombagent]

i wonder how many bills fans would find this thread hilarious