EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – For the first time in more than 13 years, the Giants are changing starting quarterbacks.
Coach Ben McAdoo announced today that Geno Smith will start in place of Eli Manning when the Giants face the Raiders in Oakland on Sunday. Rookie Davis Webb will also play, if not this week, then sometime before the end of the season.
“Geno will start this week,” McAdoo said. “Over the last five games, we will take a look at Geno, and we will also give Davis an opportunity.”
Manning has started 210 consecutive regular-season games, the second-longest streak by a quarterback in NFL history, behind Brett Favre’s 297. He has started every Giants game since Nov. 21, 2004, when he took over for veteran Kurt Warner in the 10th game of his rookie season. Manning has also started 12 postseason games, and twice led the Giants to Super Bowl victories.
Manning was given the option of starting against the Raiders to keep the streak alive, but declined.
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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) — The benching of Eli Manning for the first time in 13 seasons is probably the low point of a season in which the New York Giants did almost nothing right.
Let's start with the decision by coach Ben McAdoo and management to sit Manning with five games left in the regular season.
Sure, the Giants are 2-9, out of the playoff picture and they need to find out something about backup quarterbacks Geno Smith and rookie Davis Webb.
Benching the 36-year-old Manning wasn't the right thing to do, and it wasn't handled properly.
If anyone doubts that all they would have had to do was see the tears welling in the two-time Super Bowl MVP's eyes and the heartbreak his quivering chin displayed when asked how much this hurt.
The Giants offered Manning the opportunity to start and keep his streak of 210 consecutive starts alive, but the 14-year veteran didn't want to be part of a sham. If you start, you play to win, not keep a streak alive.
The wrong move has been par for the Giants, who were coming off an 11-5 season that got them into the playoffs for the first time since 2011.
However, all the close games the team won last season, it lost this year.
"Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things." George Carlin
I'm not sure I get this. Ok, Eli isn't having a great year, but he is certainly not the only problem the Giants have. And why bench him for Geno Smith? If they benched him to make the rest of the season a live action training camp for their rookie Davis Webb, I could see it.
I'm guessing this means Eli will be available to play elsewhere in 2018 and beyond if he doesn't retire.
"Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things." George Carlin
Whatever you think of him, Eli deserves better than being benched for Geno Smith. 210 straight starts, 2 superbowl wins...dude deserves to finish out the year.
I don't know if anyone caught Eli's locker room interview after it was announced Geno would start, but the dude was nearly in tears. His chin was quivering, really heartbreaking stuff.
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When the Giants shockingly announced on Tuesday that they were going to bench Eli Manning, one thing the team made sure to note in their press release is that Manning was technically benching himself because they had given him the option of starting against the Raiders on Sunday.
If Manning had taken the Giants up on their offer, it would have allowed him to keep alive his consecutive starts streak, which currently stands at 210 games and is the second-most for any quarterback in NFL history, trailing only Brett Favre's 297.
Obviously, Manning ended up turning down the chance to start on Sunday, and apparently, he turned down that offer because he didn't like the plan that coach Ben McAdoo had made for him.
According to McAdoo, if Manning had started on Sunday, he would've been pulled at halftime and Geno Smith would have been the team's starting quarterback for the rest of the game.
"The game plan going in was to play [Manning] for a half and play Geno for the second half," McAdoo said on Tuesday.
Benching your quarterback of 13-plus years at halftime is such an absurd plan that it's amazing McAdoo was able to present it to Manning with a straight face. When Manning was asked about the potential halftime benching, he definitely gave off the vibe that he was somewhat appalled by McAdoo's request.
"It's not a preseason game where you're going to play the start to the half, what's the next week? A quarter, a series, that's not fair," Manning said. "That's not fair to me, that's not fair to Geno, that's not how you play. You play to win. You're named the starting quarterback, you think it's your job to go win the football game. When you know you're just going to play a little bit, I didn't feel like that was the right way to play."
That's probably the closest you're ever going to hear Manning get to calling out a coach.
that's some bullshit ... McAdoo has completely lost his mind
"Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things." George Carlin
things could always be worse for us old bear's fans. jerry reese went on an epic spending spree for the 2016 season and that could only mask their problems for so long.
Manning has been pretty bad for a while now. Beckham has been the stopper keeping the sands from running out of Manning's hourglass. If the Jags are dumb enough to sign him, they'll get the same thing the giants have had...an 8-8 team that struggles to get to the playoffs.
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Boris13c wrote:I'm not sure I get this. Ok, Eli isn't having a great year, but he is certainly not the only problem the Giants have. And why bench him for Geno Smith? If they benched him to make the rest of the season a live action training camp for their rookie Davis Webb, I could see it.
I'm guessing this means Eli will be available to play elsewhere in 2018 and beyond if he doesn't retire.
Boris13c wrote:I'm not sure I get this. Ok, Eli isn't having a great year, but he is certainly not the only problem the Giants have. And why bench him for Geno Smith? If they benched him to make the rest of the season a live action training camp for their rookie Davis Webb, I could see it.
I'm guessing this means Eli will be available to play elsewhere in 2018 and beyond if he doesn't retire.
I bet he’s a Cardinal next year.
he'd make a nice stop gap for some team that wants to take the time to develop a qb.
but the cardinals have been in cap hell for some time, i'd put money on them getting away from another old, expensive qb and arians finally drafting his guy.
Boris13c wrote:I'm not sure I get this. Ok, Eli isn't having a great year, but he is certainly not the only problem the Giants have. And why bench him for Geno Smith? If they benched him to make the rest of the season a live action training camp for their rookie Davis Webb, I could see it.
I'm guessing this means Eli will be available to play elsewhere in 2018 and beyond if he doesn't retire.
I bet he’s a Cardinal next year.
he'd make a nice stop gap for some team that wants to take the time to develop a qb.
but the cardinals have been in cap hell for some time, i'd put money on them getting away from another old, expensive qb and arians finally drafting his guy.
Arians talks about retiring about as often as John Fox says something that makes you wonder if he's a real NFL coach or if he's a coach the way Jeapordy on Saturday Night Live was a real game show. I doubt he has the patience for a rookie quarterback.
He might like the challenge, but I'd bet he'll bend over backward to find a veteran. And I doubt Eli would be prohibitively expensive given that I never considered him all that great, and he's not been very good compared to his peak for a while now.
Boris13c wrote:I'm not sure I get this. Ok, Eli isn't having a great year, but he is certainly not the only problem the Giants have. And why bench him for Geno Smith? If they benched him to make the rest of the season a live action training camp for their rookie Davis Webb, I could see it.
I'm guessing this means Eli will be available to play elsewhere in 2018 and beyond if he doesn't retire.
Eli Manning is back in the saddle one week after the New York Giants snapped his 210-game start streak.
NFL Network's Mike Garafolo reported Tuesday that Manning would start Sunday versus the Dallas Cowboys. The decision came after Giants coaches and staffers had final game-planning discussions, per sources informed of the decision.
The move back to Manning comes a day after Monday's firing of coach Ben McAdoo.
Reverting to the veteran quarterback a week after ending his iron-man streak is the latest admission from the Giants' organization that they bungled the situation.
Last week, the Giants announced Manning would be benched in favor of Geno Smith and rookie Davis Webb as the organization attempted to evaluate its younger quarterbacks during a cratering season.
Co-owner John Mara confirmed Monday that McAdoo conjured the idea to test-run Smith and Webb, but only after starting Manning for a half. Mara approved the decision and took the blame for not doing more to quash the move -- or at least insist on more finesse from McAdoo.
Manning rightfully rebuffed the idea of taking token starts simply to prolong his streak.
"Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things." George Carlin
WTF, you let a coach whom you know you are going to fire bench your 2 time superbowl winning QB then fire him right after and go back to said QB?
Say what you want, but Eli isn't the problem with that team. No receivers, no o-line and no running game all while his stats aren't garbage and better than some QB with a lot more talent around them.
If Eli is on the jags right now they are freaking deadly.
