Snap back to reality... oh no, someone on the internet disagrees with me, guess that makes everything I thought wrong... Nah, I'm good, I'll trust what I saw on tape...Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.
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QB Prospect Discussion: Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech
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Lol just looked into this guy and you wouldn't like what he had to say about Fournette lol thinks he is pretty much LeGarrett Blount lol, didn't you say Fournette is the greatest back you have seen in years lol...Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.
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It's a funny article, the reference to "numerical representation" when he's just pulling percentages out of his arse (well I'm guessing, if he'd run the plays it'd both take ages and would likely not be a nice round number). Also mentions that he regularly got clean pockets when I understand his line was pretty poor.BamaBear09 wrote:Snap back to reality... oh no, someone on the internet disagrees with me, guess that makes everything I thought wrong... Nah, I'm good, I'll trust what I saw on tape...Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.
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Then there's the play against West Virginia that looked more like a half throw away with all the receivers covered.
I think the writer just doesn't like prospects without really clean mechanics which is fair enough but I'm not seeing a great deal else of substance in there. Sure Mahomes might not make it, being a QB is hard, but I don't see any massive red flags that mean it's a terribly low percentage chance.
I think teams like Mahomes not because of his upside but because of his ability. He needs to learn an NFL offence but he doesn't need a complete overhaul of his mechanics but rather a scheme that will compensate for the issues they create (and maximise the opportunities).
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What it shows is that Mahomes is a developmental QB needing years of work to make it in the NFL. He may become a great QB, but he's not the type of prospect that goes in the first round, let alone the #3 pick in the draft.malk wrote:It's a funny article, the reference to "numerical representation" when he's just pulling percentages out of his arse (well I'm guessing, if he'd run the plays it'd both take ages and would likely not be a nice round number). Also mentions that he regularly got clean pockets when I understand his line was pretty poor.BamaBear09 wrote:Snap back to reality... oh no, someone on the internet disagrees with me, guess that makes everything I thought wrong... Nah, I'm good, I'll trust what I saw on tape...Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.
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Then there's the play against West Virginia that looked more like a half throw away with all the receivers covered.
I think the writer just doesn't like prospects without really clean mechanics which is fair enough but I'm not seeing a great deal else of substance in there. Sure Mahomes might not make it, being a QB is hard, but I don't see any massive red flags that mean it's a terribly low percentage chance.
I think teams like Mahomes not because of his upside but because of his ability. He needs to learn an NFL offence but he doesn't need a complete overhaul of his mechanics but rather a scheme that will compensate for the issues they create (and maximise the opportunities).
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Blah blah blah... Mahomes needs all this work because some sports blogger said so.... shut it down guys, "Cian Fahey" said Mahomes needs a ton of work and won't ever draft him... zzzzzzzzzzzzz your lazy takes are making me sleepy...Adipost wrote:What it shows is that Mahomes is a developmental QB needing years of work to make it in the NFL. He may become a great QB, but he's not the type of prospect that goes in the first round, let alone the #3 pick in the draft.malk wrote:It's a funny article, the reference to "numerical representation" when he's just pulling percentages out of his arse (well I'm guessing, if he'd run the plays it'd both take ages and would likely not be a nice round number). Also mentions that he regularly got clean pockets when I understand his line was pretty poor.BamaBear09 wrote:Snap back to reality... oh no, someone on the internet disagrees with me, guess that makes everything I thought wrong... Nah, I'm good, I'll trust what I saw on tape...Adipost wrote:Click here to snap back to reality.
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Then there's the play against West Virginia that looked more like a half throw away with all the receivers covered.
I think the writer just doesn't like prospects without really clean mechanics which is fair enough but I'm not seeing a great deal else of substance in there. Sure Mahomes might not make it, being a QB is hard, but I don't see any massive red flags that mean it's a terribly low percentage chance.
I think teams like Mahomes not because of his upside but because of his ability. He needs to learn an NFL offence but he doesn't need a complete overhaul of his mechanics but rather a scheme that will compensate for the issues they create (and maximise the opportunities).
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He does need work. That's not really up for debate. That skill set though...
Its like a super model who can't walk in heels. Sure walking in heels is a requirement, but that can be worked on, as long as she has everything else going on.
Its like a super model who can't walk in heels. Sure walking in heels is a requirement, but that can be worked on, as long as she has everything else going on.
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I think it's neither. It's just due diligence.
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If this is true......
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For all those who want to question his understanding or desire to play within limitations.
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Mahomes looked pretty good in his debut last night. Not Trubisky good but good. What's missing from the link is his first pass. 35 yards bomb over a defender, hitting his wr in stride, called back for a hold. I watched some of his reps and he looked good but the chiefs were conservative with him running it on a lot of 3rd downs.
After the first preseason Trubiski is the winner the other 3 though didn't slouch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sNNeEuOlBKM
After the first preseason Trubiski is the winner the other 3 though didn't slouch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sNNeEuOlBKM
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yeah, not horrible. to me he definitely looks the rawest of the four out there. he landed in a such a good spot for him though, i really hope he tears it up.
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As of week 1, his footwork still really sucks
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Meh... he's still going to make plays like this, so footwork, shmutwork... can't throw this pass any better...Moriarty wrote:As of week 1, his footwork still really sucks
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Did you find yourself watching Albert Wilson in every clip?
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DUDE YES!!!wab wrote:Did you find yourself watching Albert Wilson in every clip?
I fucking paused the "tape" and looked him up because I was like who the FUCK is this kid!? My lord that short area burst and the way they kept having him run those jerk routes.
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He’s a little dude. But damn.
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Mahomes is just so much fun to watch.
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i fucking love this qb class. trubs/watson/mahomes are going to be so much fun to watch grow up.
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He still looks so raw, really needs to clean up his mechanics but I just love his "fuck you/never say die" attitude. Kid's going to be a blast to watch.mmmc_35 wrote:Mahomes my favorite QB in the class. He still throws off balance and trusts his arm to much. But that kid is going to be special.
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