Bears will pick 3rd in 2017 NFL Draft

BamaBear09 · Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:41 am

G08 wrote:Kizer has a cannon for sure, accuracy is his bugaboo.

Processing and timing were off bad... add on top his placement, he is going to need a lot of work to succeed at the next level. If he ends up in Zona, I think he could thrive but if he ends up in a WCO system, he won't be around very long.

Fri Mar 10, 2017 5:56 pm

@ArifHasanNFL
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Below 55 is supposed to be #bad so that's pretty interesting re: Watson
Dane Brugler @dpbrugler
Ball velocity numbers (MPH) from the Combine:

60 - Mahomes
59 - Webb
56 - Kizer
55 - Trubisky, Evans
53 - Peterman, Kaaya
49 - Watson

malk · Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:29 pm

Is that a set test into a speed gun or measurements based on general throws they made?

G08 · Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:36 pm

He wasn't rifling balls, though. When Watson is focused upon accuracy, his velocity tends to go down. He can rip it when he wants, I've seen it.

Glennon had a 49 at the combine as well, and that dude has a rifle.

Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:49 am

W/ the trade they just made, the Saints now have the 11th and 32nd overall pick in the draft. I think Bears would happily do 3 for 11+32 (along with some other pieces) to move back. I have no idea who the Saints would covet enough to move that high, however.

Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:51 am

UOK wrote:W/ the trade they just made, the Saints now have the 11th and 32nd overall pick in the draft. I think Bears would happily do 3 for 11+32 (along with some other pieces) to move back. I have no idea who the Saints would covet enough to move that high, however.

The problem is that after Garrett, most players are ranked similarly from 3 to 33.

Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:54 am

wab wrote:
UOK wrote:W/ the trade they just made, the Saints now have the 11th and 32nd overall pick in the draft. I think Bears would happily do 3 for 11+32 (along with some other pieces) to move back. I have no idea who the Saints would covet enough to move that high, however.
The problem is that after Garrett, most players are ranked similarly from 3 to 33.

Basically this. It's like the worst possible year to have a shitty record and naturally the Bears have that kind of luck.

Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:59 am

UOK wrote:
wab wrote:
UOK wrote:W/ the trade they just made, the Saints now have the 11th and 32nd overall pick in the draft. I think Bears would happily do 3 for 11+32 (along with some other pieces) to move back. I have no idea who the Saints would covet enough to move that high, however.
The problem is that after Garrett, most players are ranked similarly from 3 to 33.
Basically this. It's like the worst possible year to have a shitty record and naturally the Bears have that kind of luck.

That's why I worry about taking someone like Thomas. In any other year, he's probably going to go somewhere between 10-20.

I know people compare him to JJ Watt, but I just don't see it.

G08 · Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:03 am

I see more of an Aaron Donald in Solomon Thomas than I see Watt... JJ is a freaking monster.

USSGlennon · Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:34 pm

I don't think Foxy is gonna reach for a QB using the #3 pick in this draft. And these guys are all reaches this early. He's way smarter than that...

DaSuperfan · Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:17 am

USSGlennon wrote:I don't think Foxy is gonna reach for a QB using the #3 pick in this draft. And these guys are all reaches this early. He's way smarter than that...

If all of them are reaches early and there's no way to trade down, then I say reach for a QB like Watson. At least reach at a position that can potentially give you the most return on your investment.

Atkins&Rebel · Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:50 pm

DaSuperfan wrote:
USSGlennon wrote:I don't think Foxy is gonna reach for a QB using the #3 pick in this draft. And these guys are all reaches this early. He's way smarter than that...
If all of them are reaches early and there's no way to trade down, then I say reach for a QB like Watson. At least reach at a position that can potentially give you the most return on your investment.

That would be Mahomes then. Watson is simply the safe choice, but with Glennon set up for this year, you at least give Mahomes a year to learn and develop

G08 · Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:56 pm

Why aren't we talking more about Marshon Lattimore potentially being the pick at #3?

Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:10 pm

G08 wrote:Why aren't we talking more about Marshon Lattimore potentially being the pick at #3?

Because the Bears have 12 defensive backs and Lattimore is gimpy.

Atkins&Rebel · Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:43 pm

G08 wrote:Why aren't we talking more about Marshon Lattimore potentially being the pick at #3?

The only CB I really liked in the top 10 was Sidney Jones.

mmmc_35 · Sat Mar 25, 2017 8:12 pm

G08 wrote:Why aren't we talking more about Marshon Lattimore potentially being the pick at #3?

I have mentioned it, and it'd been poo poohed quickly. I wouldn't count him out.

Middleguard · Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:07 pm

In several other threads, posters have expressed their opinion that the Bears would be best served by trading out of #3. Often they have been challenged by opinions that no other team would offer anything worthwhile to complete the trade. But I am unaware of any discussion of possible trade scenarios.

I would like to provoke discussion by suggesting a scenario myself, but I can't find anything likely. I've seen Fournette mocked at #4. Is it possible that the Panthers could be persuaded to move up from #8 by not demanding demanding full draft chart compensation?

crueltyabc · Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:04 pm

Or maybe there's a particular CB or TE you love most? I expect a few of them to be drafted 4-10 so the teams in the teens are looking at the third best

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Rusty Trombagent · Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:17 pm

here's the 2016 1st round salary projections
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and what joey bosa is making over his four year contract, fwiw
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles- ... osa-18951/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:13 am

https://theringer.com/ringer-2017-nfl-m ... 5191858e6c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So THIS isn't somebody I've seen the Bears take.

Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:23 am

UOK wrote:https://theringer.com/ringer-2017-nfl-m ... 5191858e6c

So THIS isn't somebody I've seen the Bears take.

I've seen him go to the Bears in a few mocks in the 2nd. But 3rd...no. That's just being different for the sake of being different.

Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:48 am

Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
“If you believe the Bears want a QB (at 3), I got a bridge in Arizona for you” - An NFL executive to me today

G08 · Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:54 am

One dude says we are in love with Watson, another dude says no interest at all at QB.

I'm officially at my wit's end. Next Thursday can't get here soon enough.

mmmc_35 · Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:39 pm

UOK wrote:Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
“If you believe the Bears want a QB (at 3), I got a bridge in Arizona for you” - An NFL executive to me today

Key point (at 3). That was out in for a reason.

Sat Apr 22, 2017 6:18 pm

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Aaron Leming kept a list of players the Bears visited with or worked out by position.

karhu · Mon Apr 24, 2017 12:13 am

UOK wrote:Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
“If you believe the Bears want a QB (at 3), I got a bridge in Arizona for you” - An NFL executive to me today

Then again, London Bridge is in Lake Havasu City.

Millering!

malk · Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:27 am

karhu wrote:
UOK wrote:Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
“If you believe the Bears want a QB (at 3), I got a bridge in Arizona for you” - An NFL executive to me today
Then again, London Bridge is in Lake Havasu City.

Millering!

I love the old wife's tale that they thought they were buying Tower Bridge! Mind you, Fergie definitely doesn't know the difference...

karhu · Mon Apr 24, 2017 10:14 am

malk wrote:
karhu wrote:
UOK wrote:Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
“If you believe the Bears want a QB (at 3), I got a bridge in Arizona for you” - An NFL executive to me today
Then again, London Bridge is in Lake Havasu City.

Millering!
I love the old wife's tale that they thought they were buying Tower Bridge! Mind you, Fergie definitely doesn't know the difference...

Ha! Never heard that, but it makes sense. Then again, the London Bridge that got sent to Arizona was a simple, straightforward Isambard Kingdom Brunel joint, right? Whatever replaced the older, cooler, house-crowded one.

malk · Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:14 pm

karhu wrote:
malk wrote:
karhu wrote:
UOK wrote:Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
“If you believe the Bears want a QB (at 3), I got a bridge in Arizona for you” - An NFL executive to me today
Then again, London Bridge is in Lake Havasu City.

Millering!
I love the old wife's tale that they thought they were buying Tower Bridge! Mind you, Fergie definitely doesn't know the difference...
Ha! Never heard that, but it makes sense. Then again, the London Bridge that got sent to Arizona was a simple, straightforward Isambard Kingdom Brunel joint, right? Whatever replaced the older, cooler, house-crowded one.

It was a little before Brunel's time, designed by Rennie. Pretty standard masonry bridge from the time. From a quick check, the Arizona one is a reinforced concrete structure clad in the old London Bridge stone.

Boris13c · Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:35 am

so here we are, almost at draft day, and I still have no idea whatsoever what the Bears may be doing

we can all usually get a general sense even if we don't get the exact player, and usually long before the week of the draft ... this year, the alleged "signs and inside information" are all over the place

I guess we'll all find out together