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I think he still goes somewhere between 20-40. Similar to what happened to Jack last year.

If he's there at 35, you're goddamn right I'm taking him.
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wab wrote:I think he still goes somewhere between 20-40. Similar to what happened to Jack last year.

If he's there at 35, you're goddamn right I'm taking him.
Shit, I'm trading back into the first!
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Damn, Hooker is going to be special:

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten

Malik Hooker had surgery Tuesday on a torn labrum and a hernia that he played through late this season. He will miss the Combine.

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten

Pretty impressive Hooker played through those injuries against Michigan and Clemson and still looked like a top 10 player.
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Adipost wrote:Damn, Hooker is going to be special:

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten

Malik Hooker had surgery Tuesday on a torn labrum and a hernia that he played through late this season. He will miss the Combine.

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten

Pretty impressive Hooker played through those injuries against Michigan and Clemson and still looked like a top 10 player.
I imagine he'll still go to the combine and get measured/weighed and interview. He just wont work out.
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Hooker's one of those guys who now will still probably go in the late first to a team that has depth but can take a chance on letting him heal. Kind of like Willis McGahee in the 00's when the Bills took a flier on him after he tore his knee up.
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Sooooo, he'll basically go to the Pats.
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wab wrote:Sooooo, he'll basically go to the Pats.
Burning our 2nd and both our 4ths can move us up to 25...
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G08 wrote:
wab wrote:Sooooo, he'll basically go to the Pats.
Burning our 2nd and both our 4ths can move us up to 25...
I'm good with taking an injured player at 35. I'm not good using three picks to trade up for an injured player.
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in case anyone wants the linked story :

Malik Hooker having surgeries, won’t participate in Scouting Combine
One of the top prospects in this year’s class won’t be participating in the Scouting Combine, creating some big questions at the top of the 2017 NFL Draft.

According to Matt Miller of Bleacher Report, Ohio State safety Malik Hooker had surgeries (plural) to repair a torn labrum and a hernia Tuesday, and won’t be ready to work out for scouts in early March.

Hooker played through the injuries last year, and had a standout season for the Buckeyes. He’s likely still a Top 10 pick, though this will complicate the process for teams during the medical portion of the evaluation.
certainly sucks for him from an initial financial standpoint ... but if he recovers from the surgery as expected and gets healthy, he will be a key contributor to whoever took a flyer on him
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wab wrote:
G08 wrote:
wab wrote:Sooooo, he'll basically go to the Pats.
Burning our 2nd and both our 4ths can move us up to 25...
I'm good with taking an injured player at 35. I'm not good using three picks to trade up for an injured player.
Don't you go bringing logic into this discussion :lol:
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G08 wrote:I think it will be very tough to burn a first round pick on a kid that may not be ready to go until August...
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Adipost wrote:Damn, Hooker is going to be special:

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten

Malik Hooker had surgery Tuesday on a torn labrum and a hernia that he played through late this season. He will miss the Combine.

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten

Pretty impressive Hooker played through those injuries against Michigan and Clemson and still looked like a top 10 player.
Thanks.

So the question is: what's the market look like for the healthy version of a player who looked like a top-10 guy when he was injured?
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karhu wrote:
Adipost wrote:Damn, Hooker is going to be special:

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten

Malik Hooker had surgery Tuesday on a torn labrum and a hernia that he played through late this season. He will miss the Combine.

Matt Miller ‏@nfldraftscout 14 Min.Vor 14 Minuten

Pretty impressive Hooker played through those injuries against Michigan and Clemson and still looked like a top 10 player.
Thanks.

So the question is: what's the market look like for the healthy version of a player who looked like a top-10 guy when he was injured?
LOL Maybe his draft stock rises.
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He'd be so perfect for us, Christ I hope we find a way to make this work.

Now how do we trade down and get him and Mahomes without using the first we get...
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karhu wrote:
G08 wrote:I think it will be very tough to burn a first round pick on a kid that may not be ready to go until August...
Willis McGahee.
RB >>> Safeties back in 2003 my man
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G08 wrote:
karhu wrote:
G08 wrote:I think it will be very tough to burn a first round pick on a kid that may not be ready to go until August...
Willis McGahee.
RB >>> Safeties back in 2003 my man

Career starter FSs are much harder to find than career starter HBs in 2017, so I don't think the example is diminished any.
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I've been on board with trading down from the jump. Plus, with Jonathan Allen more valuable to us now, teams could be more willing to trade up.
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Atkins&Rebel wrote:He'll still interview, but without a solid mini camp behind him, I almost think the drop will be more like bottom of the 2nd to mid 3rd round. The labrum surgery is actually worse depending on the hernia location.
bottom 2nd to mid 3rd!
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RustyTrombone wrote:
Atkins&Rebel wrote:He'll still interview, but without a solid mini camp behind him, I almost think the drop will be more like bottom of the 2nd to mid 3rd round. The labrum surgery is actually worse depending on the hernia location.
bottom 2nd to mid 3rd!
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Hmmm, probably not going to click that link...
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Methinks he was triggered by the word Hooker :lol:
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Oh crap! I just picked Hooker at the number 3 spot in the mock your own thread.
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What the hell have you guys been smoking? If he's reportedly the next Ed Reed, a minor injury that would only keep him out a couple months is fucking nothing. No way he falls to the 2nd round. He's a top 10 pick and is completely at play at 3.
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dapianna wrote:What the hell have you guys been smoking? If he's reportedly the next Ed Reed, a minor injury that would only keep him out a couple months is fucking nothing. No way he falls to the 2nd round. He's a top 10 pick and is completely at play at 3.
Agree. Medical will be key.
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