Here's how the game works... Since the Bears are picking 3rd, name your top 3 players you'd choose IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE with the highest ranked at 1, 2nd highest at 2, etc. The concept is that you're effectively saying what you would do on draft day.
You can also optionally add a line for <trade up> or <trade down>, but those don't count as being included as one of your 3 choices, since you can't ensure that they will happen. That just indicates your desire to do so. Just keep in mind that you process the list in order from top to bottom. That tells you where to insert <trade up> and <trade down> if you want to use them.
Example 1:
1. Solomon Thomas... Edge... Stanford
2. Deshaun Watson... QB... Clemson
3. Jamal Adams... S... LSU
In this example, you'd take Thomas if he's there at 3. If he's not, you'd take Watson if he's there. If neither are there, you'd take Adams. You wouldn't make any trades, if offered.
Example 2:
1. Mitchell Trubisky... QB... North Carolina
<trade down>
2. Malik Hooker... S... Ohio State
3. Marshon Lattimore... CB... Ohio State
In this one, if Trubisky's there at 3, you take him. If not, you'd entertain trade down offers. If no trade downs are possible, you'd take Hooker if he's there at 3. Otherwise, you'd take Lattimore.
Example 3:
<trade up>
1. Myles Garrett... Edge... Texas A&M
2. Mike Williams... WR... Clemson
<trade down>
3. Jonathan Allen... DL... Alabama
In this example, you'd try to trade up to #1 if possible and select Myles Garrett. If no trade up can be arranged, you'd take Garrett if there at 3. If he's not there, you'd take Williams. If both are gone, you'd try to trade down and out of the 3rd pick. But if you can't find a trade down deal, you'd take Allen.
Note that its fair game to edit your selections up until the draft begins--and many will. But after the draft starts, it's cheating. If you have questions that have not been answered here, by all means post them.
This game is super easy when we're picking third. We've done this in the past when we're picking much farther down, which obviously requires more involved draft prospect knowledge. It's nice that it's an easy first timer on this board.
Have at it!
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1) OLB Myles Garrett - not happening, though
*) <trade down> - with QB and S signings, this becomes the overwhelming obvious route to me at this point
2) S Jamal Adams - Hooker's injuries make me a little nervous
3) FS Malik Hooker - but elite FSs are so rare, I still can't name a 3rd pick ahead of him
*) <trade down> - with QB and S signings, this becomes the overwhelming obvious route to me at this point
2) S Jamal Adams - Hooker's injuries make me a little nervous
3) FS Malik Hooker - but elite FSs are so rare, I still can't name a 3rd pick ahead of him
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1) OLB Myles Garrett
<trade down>
2) QB DeShaun Watson
3) FS Malik Hooker
<trade down>
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3) FS Malik Hooker
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1. Myles Garrett
2. Deshaun Watson
3. Jonathan Allen/Solomon Thomas
2. Deshaun Watson
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Overall:
1. Garrett
2. [Allen]*
3. Thomas
3b. Hooker
* Amid all the concern about his shoulders, I think we're forgetting that most linemen have arthritic or pre-arthritic conditions there. Could be that he's got a common condition that was only discovered during the labrum cleanup; if that's the case, he's my #2. If it's worse, he's way lower.
For the Bears:
1. Garrett
<trade down>
2. Watson
<trade down>
3. Trubisky
Thomas is right there, and if I knew that we were going to be playing our RE as a 3-tech most of the time, that'd be one thing. But I don't. Plus, I've got Deatrich Wise rated close enough to Thomas, and Tanoh Kpassagnon shockingly close on athleticism alone; if either one of those guys has his head screwed on straight, Thomas isn't the singular player some folks seem to think he is.
1. Garrett
2. [Allen]*
3. Thomas
3b. Hooker
* Amid all the concern about his shoulders, I think we're forgetting that most linemen have arthritic or pre-arthritic conditions there. Could be that he's got a common condition that was only discovered during the labrum cleanup; if that's the case, he's my #2. If it's worse, he's way lower.
For the Bears:
1. Garrett
<trade down>
2. Watson
<trade down>
3. Trubisky
Thomas is right there, and if I knew that we were going to be playing our RE as a 3-tech most of the time, that'd be one thing. But I don't. Plus, I've got Deatrich Wise rated close enough to Thomas, and Tanoh Kpassagnon shockingly close on athleticism alone; if either one of those guys has his head screwed on straight, Thomas isn't the singular player some folks seem to think he is.
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1. Garrett.
2. Mahomes.
3. Thomas.
But we'll trade down which is fine.
2. Mahomes.
3. Thomas.
But we'll trade down which is fine.
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1. Garrett
2. Watson
< trade down>
3. Allen
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1. Garrett (not happening)
<trade down>
2. Adams (top 7 pick)
3. Watson (top 20 pick)
<trade down>
2. Adams (top 7 pick)
3. Watson (top 20 pick)
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Normally, I never play this game. Too many players to review and too much tape to watch. My initial swing is as follows...
1. Myles Garrett... Edge... Texas A&M... No explanation needed.
<trade down>
2. Jamal Adams... SS... LSU... A terrific player at a need position. Love his leadership ability.
3. Malik Hooker... FS... Ohio St.... I love speedy centerfielder Ss with ball skills. Not worried about the injury.
I'd really like to trade out of #3 and move back to where Watson, Trubisky or Mahomes is a value pick. Maybe around 10ish. And of course, pick up another high pick. But I recognize that that is exceedingly unlikely.
Adams is a seemingly can't miss pick. But even though he's a box guy and I tend to value that kind of S a bit less, he's off the charts with his leadership, which I value highly.
I put Hooker #3 because I love rangy Ss with hands. Seems like a pretty certain good pick who will play right away. Not afraid of the injury thing with him. Maybe I'm wrong.
When you're drafting at #3, you can't swing an miss with that pick. I'm not sure that anybody is really the kind of player that normally represents value at #3. Safeties generally aren't. But I think they're solid, quality players with little uncertainty--at least for me.
There's a lot to like about Solomon Thomas and if we played a 4-3, I'd probably take him, as I love his skill set in that D and his outstanding character. But in a 3-4, I'd want to put him on the edge at 275#. But that may not be the right role for him as he's never done it. That creates uncertainty for me, which takes me back to the first sentence of the previous paragraph.
Marshon Lattimore was a consideration. A guy like that could really help us in this pass happy division. But his injury history--hamstrings on a CB--scares me enough to go for safer bets.
Jonathan Allen was my #2 pick in my head before I found out about his shoulders. The thing about him is that if he's going to have a short career, there's no guarantee that he'll be able to play if it takes several years to upgrade our talent and become a playoff team. And his career might be on the downside by then. Guys we draft today need to be in that mix.
1. Myles Garrett... Edge... Texas A&M... No explanation needed.
<trade down>
2. Jamal Adams... SS... LSU... A terrific player at a need position. Love his leadership ability.
3. Malik Hooker... FS... Ohio St.... I love speedy centerfielder Ss with ball skills. Not worried about the injury.
I'd really like to trade out of #3 and move back to where Watson, Trubisky or Mahomes is a value pick. Maybe around 10ish. And of course, pick up another high pick. But I recognize that that is exceedingly unlikely.
Adams is a seemingly can't miss pick. But even though he's a box guy and I tend to value that kind of S a bit less, he's off the charts with his leadership, which I value highly.
I put Hooker #3 because I love rangy Ss with hands. Seems like a pretty certain good pick who will play right away. Not afraid of the injury thing with him. Maybe I'm wrong.
When you're drafting at #3, you can't swing an miss with that pick. I'm not sure that anybody is really the kind of player that normally represents value at #3. Safeties generally aren't. But I think they're solid, quality players with little uncertainty--at least for me.
There's a lot to like about Solomon Thomas and if we played a 4-3, I'd probably take him, as I love his skill set in that D and his outstanding character. But in a 3-4, I'd want to put him on the edge at 275#. But that may not be the right role for him as he's never done it. That creates uncertainty for me, which takes me back to the first sentence of the previous paragraph.
Marshon Lattimore was a consideration. A guy like that could really help us in this pass happy division. But his injury history--hamstrings on a CB--scares me enough to go for safer bets.
Jonathan Allen was my #2 pick in my head before I found out about his shoulders. The thing about him is that if he's going to have a short career, there's no guarantee that he'll be able to play if it takes several years to upgrade our talent and become a playoff team. And his career might be on the downside by then. Guys we draft today need to be in that mix.
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Post-FA for the Bears:
1. Garrett
<<Trade down>>
2. Hooker
3. Adams
I'm resigned to seeing what Glennon can do.
Even if your opinion of Solomon Thomas is less qualified than mine, even if you're as sanguine as I am about Jonathan Allen's shoulders, even if like me you believe in planet theory and in basing a defense around its pass rush...neither of those guys looks like a holy-shit-how-do-we-prepare-for-that? player. Hooker and Adams are. I put Hooker first because he fits the bill perfectly as a dedicated FS. Adams doesn't have quite the range or ball skills from what I've seen, but he can also play holy-shit ball in more positions in more alignments than Hooker. Nice tossup.
And finally, we've only got the one FS on our roster, and he's 31. Our options in the draft if we take a DE first run something like Allen/Thomas and Budda Baker/Marcus Williams. If we take Hooker or Allen, we address a bigger need while preserving a lot of flexibility. Taco Charlton might fall. Deatrich Wise is a huge sleeper after playing with a broken hand last season. One of my favorite players in the draft, Larry Ogunjobi, could join Goldman and Hicks in giving us three guys who can play nose or 4-/5-tech; I don't know what kind of a pass-rusher he'll ever be in the league, but put him next to Hicks and Goldman and we're going to get into a lot of predictable passing downs, because no one will run on us. And he's the insurance policy we wished we'd had when Goldman got hurt last year.
1. Garrett
<<Trade down>>
2. Hooker
3. Adams
I'm resigned to seeing what Glennon can do.
Even if your opinion of Solomon Thomas is less qualified than mine, even if you're as sanguine as I am about Jonathan Allen's shoulders, even if like me you believe in planet theory and in basing a defense around its pass rush...neither of those guys looks like a holy-shit-how-do-we-prepare-for-that? player. Hooker and Adams are. I put Hooker first because he fits the bill perfectly as a dedicated FS. Adams doesn't have quite the range or ball skills from what I've seen, but he can also play holy-shit ball in more positions in more alignments than Hooker. Nice tossup.
And finally, we've only got the one FS on our roster, and he's 31. Our options in the draft if we take a DE first run something like Allen/Thomas and Budda Baker/Marcus Williams. If we take Hooker or Allen, we address a bigger need while preserving a lot of flexibility. Taco Charlton might fall. Deatrich Wise is a huge sleeper after playing with a broken hand last season. One of my favorite players in the draft, Larry Ogunjobi, could join Goldman and Hicks in giving us three guys who can play nose or 4-/5-tech; I don't know what kind of a pass-rusher he'll ever be in the league, but put him next to Hicks and Goldman and we're going to get into a lot of predictable passing downs, because no one will run on us. And he's the insurance policy we wished we'd had when Goldman got hurt last year.
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1) Garrett
2) Allen
3) Watson (mostly because I think his learning curve is less steep than Mahomes).
2) Allen
3) Watson (mostly because I think his learning curve is less steep than Mahomes).
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1. Myles Garrett
2. Jamal Adams
3. Jonathan Allen
I had a lot of trouble choosing between Adams and Allen at #2. Usually I'd go with a big guy, plus safety is a much deeper position this year - but I just have this suspicion that Adams has a chance to be special along the lines of Eric Berry. Someone who will raise the level of the defense with his talent, intelligence and leadership qualities.
2. Jamal Adams
3. Jonathan Allen
I had a lot of trouble choosing between Adams and Allen at #2. Usually I'd go with a big guy, plus safety is a much deeper position this year - but I just have this suspicion that Adams has a chance to be special along the lines of Eric Berry. Someone who will raise the level of the defense with his talent, intelligence and leadership qualities.
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I thought I had submitted my play immediately after Ditka4Prez, but I don't see it here. It still seems that I can be the first one to say I would trade down as my first choice no matter who is still available. Garrett still available would obviously be best because that's the only way I can conceive of a trade out of 3 actually succeeding.
<trade down>
1) Garrett
2) Allen
3) Hooker
<trade down>
1) Garrett
2) Allen
3) Hooker
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1. garrett-- not going to happen, but i guess i have to put this here.
2. mahomes/watson-- i go back and forth so much they've sort of merged into the same player for me. does that make sense? no not really. but wouldnt it be wild to have a young, highly drafted qb to be excited about his development?
3. hooker-- i get so hard for good FS play, i dont care if this is supposedly 5 picks too soon. hell, if chris conte could stay healthy i'd have his jersey.
2. mahomes/watson-- i go back and forth so much they've sort of merged into the same player for me. does that make sense? no not really. but wouldnt it be wild to have a young, highly drafted qb to be excited about his development?
3. hooker-- i get so hard for good FS play, i dont care if this is supposedly 5 picks too soon. hell, if chris conte could stay healthy i'd have his jersey.
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Mine needs an update...Mikefive wrote:Normally, I never play this game. Too many players to review and too much tape to watch. My initial swing is as follows...
1. Myles Garrett... Edge... Texas A&M... No explanation needed.
<trade down>
2. Jamal Adams... SS... LSU... A terrific player at a need position. Love his leadership ability.
3. Malik Hooker... FS... Ohio St.... I love speedy centerfielder Ss with ball skills. Not worried about the injury.
I'd really like to trade out of #3 and move back to where Watson, Trubisky or Mahomes is a value pick. Maybe around 10ish. And of course, pick up another high pick. But I recognize that that is exceedingly unlikely.
Adams is a seemingly can't miss pick. But even though he's a box guy and I tend to value that kind of S a bit less, he's off the charts with his leadership, which I value highly.
I put Hooker #3 because I love rangy Ss with hands. Seems like a pretty certain good pick who will play right away. Not afraid of the injury thing with him. Maybe I'm wrong.
When you're drafting at #3, you can't swing an miss with that pick. I'm not sure that anybody is really the kind of player that normally represents value at #3. Safeties generally aren't. But I think they're solid, quality players with little uncertainty--at least for me.
There's a lot to like about Solomon Thomas and if we played a 4-3, I'd probably take him, as I love his skill set in that D and his outstanding character. But in a 3-4, I'd want to put him on the edge at 275#. But that may not be the right role for him as he's never done it. That creates uncertainty for me, which takes me back to the first sentence of the previous paragraph.
Marshon Lattimore was a consideration. A guy like that could really help us in this pass happy division. But his injury history--hamstrings on a CB--scares me enough to go for safer bets.
Jonathan Allen was my #2 pick in my head before I found out about his shoulders. The thing about him is that if he's going to have a short career, there's no guarantee that he'll be able to play if it takes several years to upgrade our talent and become a playoff team. And his career might be on the downside by then. Guys we draft today need to be in that mix.
<trade down>
1. Myles Garrett... Edge... Texas A&M... No explanation needed.
2. Jamal Adams... SS... LSU... A terrific player at a need position. Love his leadership ability. Pro day 40 cements this one for me.
3. Jonathan Allen... DL... Alabama.... Dude is a difference maker. Not as worried about his shoulders.
Reasons for changes...
I moved trade down up above Garrett, simply because now that I've given it more thought, we'd get a king's ransom for him if he were on the board at 3. I'd be happy either way in that scenario.
That Adams ran in the 4.4's at his pro day makes him the most can't miss player in this draft, IMO. The dude can do everything well. Yes, 3 is high for a SS, but I believe this guy is going to be special. We need special.
I am now hearing that the Jonathan Allen shoulder thing isn't as big of a deal as was reported earlier. Sounds like it may be something to look at when he signs his next contract, maybe. A front 3 of Hicks, Goldman and Allen with Floyd coming off the edge could be nasty. I'd like to see that.
Hooker dropped for me as I keep reading how much he needs to develop. I'm just not as confident about a guy who has fantastic tools, but has several flaws in his game (tackling, instinct, angles) that need corrected. So I put him below a guy like Allen who is pro ready now at a more important position. If we were picking at 7, sure. But not at 3.
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1. Myles Garrett
<trade down>
2. DeShaun Watson
3. Patrick Mahomes
<trade down>
2. DeShaun Watson
3. Patrick Mahomes
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I will assume Garrett is gone
1. Malik Hooker - I'm tired of the Bears getting beat deep toward the end of close games.
2. Jonathan Allen
3. Jamal Adams
1. Malik Hooker - I'm tired of the Bears getting beat deep toward the end of close games.
2. Jonathan Allen
3. Jamal Adams
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No need to assume anybody's gone in this exercise. And even if you do, then you only need to list 2 names. The idea is that you're indicating your GM draft board that indicates what you'll do. Jamal Adams is irrelevant on your list, since you are not looking to trade down and you'd take one of Garrett, Hooker or Allen.staleystarch wrote:I will assume Garrett is gone
1. Malik Hooker - I'm tired of the Bears getting beat deep toward the end of close games.
2. Jonathan Allen
3. Jamal Adams
Please don't think I'm picking on you. That's not my intent. Just pointing out the goal of the exercise.
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1) Deshaun Watson - I am convinced he will be the best of this QB draft and that the team that takes him will be fortunate and thankful ... I wanted that team to be the Bears, but seriously doubt that has any chance of happening
2) Jamal Adams - I see him as the next Ed Reed and actually being able to dictate the opponents gameplan
3) Solomon Thomas - a faster Richard Dent IMO ... which makes him a high end prospect indeed
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2) Jamal Adams - I see him as the next Ed Reed and actually being able to dictate the opponents gameplan
3) Solomon Thomas - a faster Richard Dent IMO ... which makes him a high end prospect indeed
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I believe he was a Civil War colonel alsoBoris13c wrote:1) Deshaun Watson - I am convinced he will be the best of this QB draft and that the team that takes him will be fortunate and thankful ... I wanted that team to be the Bears, but seriously doubt that has any chance of happening
2) Jamal Adams - I see him as the next Ed Reed and actually being able to dictate the opponents gameplan
3) Solomon Thomas - a faster Richard Dent IMO ... which makes him a high end prospect indeed
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I don't mind. I wavering on my picks anyway. I am getting cold feet with Allen and the shoulder thing. Since I'm not on the clock yet I'm revising.Mikefive wrote:No need to assume anybody's gone in this exercise. And even if you do, then you only need to list 2 names. The idea is that you're indicating your GM draft board that indicates what you'll do. Jamal Adams is irrelevant on your list, since you are not looking to trade down and you'd take one of Garrett, Hooker or Allen.staleystarch wrote:I will assume Garrett is gone
1. Malik Hooker - I'm tired of the Bears getting beat deep toward the end of close games.
2. Jonathan Allen
3. Jamal Adams
Please don't think I'm picking on you. That's not my intent. Just pointing out the goal of the exercise.
1. Myles Garrett
2. Malik Hooker
3. O. J. Howard -- my out of the box pick
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I..Doccstradamus,..predict..
Bears trade up from 3 to 2 give away a 3 and 4 and next year 3..for
Mitchell Trubisky..
Just a guess here at 7:51 Mountain..
Call me psychotic er whatever..
Bears trade up from 3 to 2 give away a 3 and 4 and next year 3..for
Mitchell Trubisky..
Just a guess here at 7:51 Mountain..
Call me psychotic er whatever..
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Final results...
72% would've sat tight at 3.
28% would've taken a reasonable trade down if offered.
0% would've traded up.
Assuming trading down wasn't a reasonable option...
28% would've chosen Deshaun Watson
22% would've chosen Jamal Adams
17% would've chosen Patrick Mahomes II
11% would've chosen Malik Hooker
11% would've chosen Jonathan Allen
6% would've chosen Marshon Lattimore
6% would've chosen Solomon Thomas
0% listed Mitchell Trubisky on their board at all.
72% would've sat tight at 3.
28% would've taken a reasonable trade down if offered.
0% would've traded up.
Assuming trading down wasn't a reasonable option...
28% would've chosen Deshaun Watson
22% would've chosen Jamal Adams
17% would've chosen Patrick Mahomes II
11% would've chosen Malik Hooker
11% would've chosen Jonathan Allen
6% would've chosen Marshon Lattimore
6% would've chosen Solomon Thomas
0% listed Mitchell Trubisky on their board at all.
Mikefive's theory: The only time you KNOW that a sports team player, coach or management member is being 100% honest is when they're NOT reciting "the company line".
Go back to leather helmets, NFL.
Go back to leather helmets, NFL.
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We're either all geniuses or all idiots.Mikefive wrote:0% listed Mitchell Trubisky on their board at all.
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dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct