6. Teams that want to trade down. San Francisco (two), Chicago (three) and the Jets (six) are the ones I hear are most antsy to move back in a market with few teams wanting to move up.
7. Teams that want to trade back up. Cleveland at 12, if the Browns take Garrett number one (most likely scenario) and want to use their treasure trove of picks (12, 33, 52, 65, 108 this year, with a first- and three second-round picks next year) to move up from 12 to, say, 2, to ensure getting the quarterback they want. Spitballing only: But Cleveland from 12 to two makes a lot of sense. This would allow the Niners to still get a good player at 12 (Solomon Thomas? Christian McCaffrey? Mike Williams?), as well as Cleveland’s one next year and at least one other prominent pick.
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I just want draft day to get here already .. there are a million and a half different scenarios out now for each team ... some quite comical
I'd like to do a sports Rip Van Winkle and simply sleep through the next million guesses
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If the niners pull off a mega trade down with Cleveland and I have to endure Pace telling us the Browns just didn't offer enough...
"I wouldn't take him for a conditional 7th. His next contract will pay him more than he could possibly contribute.".
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1. Cleveland... Myles Garrett
12. Cleveland... DeShaun Watson..."He was our next choice after Garrett"
...or...
12. Cleveland... Mitch Trubisky... "We liked him better than the rest"
...or...
12. Cleveland... Patrick Mahomes II... "He was the guy we wanted"
Any of those outcomes end up sounding really good with QB picks at 12.
12. Cleveland... DeShaun Watson..."He was our next choice after Garrett"
...or...
12. Cleveland... Mitch Trubisky... "We liked him better than the rest"
...or...
12. Cleveland... Patrick Mahomes II... "He was the guy we wanted"
Any of those outcomes end up sounding really good with QB picks at 12.
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I am beging to think it doesn't matter who is available at nimber 3. Looks like we bought the whole store with Mahomes. Wether we take him at 3 or trade down I will not throw something at the TV if it happens. Mahomes has the highest upside of any QB in the draft besides maybe these guys:
Watson is aproven winner take all the rest out of the equation he does win.
Evans has un believable potential but with potential comes serious concerns.
Dobbs maybe the smartest QB in the draft. Doesn't always translate to the NFL though.
I believe we may trade down or quiet possibly take Mahomes at number 3. Pace does not care where draft experts place people he has his list and sticks to it. To many meetings to discount the Mahomes rumors.
Watson is aproven winner take all the rest out of the equation he does win.
Evans has un believable potential but with potential comes serious concerns.
Dobbs maybe the smartest QB in the draft. Doesn't always translate to the NFL though.
I believe we may trade down or quiet possibly take Mahomes at number 3. Pace does not care where draft experts place people he has his list and sticks to it. To many meetings to discount the Mahomes rumors.
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The thing about Mahomes is... I don't know how the Bears think they can make him into a WCO precision passer. Do you think that? I wonder what your opinion of Mahomes is. I love the guy and like you and others, think he has the highest ceiling of all the QBs in this draft.EricTighe wrote:I am beging to think it doesn't matter who is available at nimber 3. Looks like we bought the whole store with Mahomes. Wether we take him at 3 or trade down I will not throw something at the TV if it happens. Mahomes has the highest upside of any QB in the draft besides maybe these guys:
Watson is aproven winner take all the rest out of the equation he does win.
Evans has un believable potential but with potential comes serious concerns.
Dobbs maybe the smartest QB in the draft. Doesn't always translate to the NFL though.
I believe we may trade down or quiet possibly take Mahomes at number 3. Pace does not care where draft experts place people he has his list and sticks to it. To many meetings to discount the Mahomes rumors.
But as far as shoehorning him into Loggains' WCO scheme, I think that's a really tough sell with his risktaking AND outrageous mechanics. He's a smart and coachable kid and all (which I also love about him), but that's a whole lot of changes you're making to a guy to have him run a scheme.
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Maybe Loggains can revise his scheme for his QB. How many players on the offense would be adversely affected by a change?Mikefive wrote:But as far as shoehorning him into Loggains' WCO scheme, I think that's a really tough sell with his risktaking AND outrageous mechanics. He's a smart and coachable kid and all (which I also love about him), but that's a whole lot of changes you're making to a guy to have him run a scheme.
What makes you possibly think this???EricTighe wrote:I am beging to think it doesn't matter who is available at nimber 3. Looks like we bought the whole store with Mahomes. Wether we take him at 3 or trade down I will not throw something at the TV if it happens. Mahomes has the highest upside of any QB in the draft besides maybe these guys:
Watson is aproven winner take all the rest out of the equation he does win.
Evans has un believable potential but with potential comes serious concerns.
Dobbs maybe the smartest QB in the draft. Doesn't always translate to the NFL though.
I believe we may trade down or quiet possibly take Mahomes at number 3. Pace does not care where draft experts place people he has his list and sticks to it. To many meetings to discount the Mahomes rumors.
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Mahomes is similar to Jake Locker. Loggains has experience with that type of dude.Middleguard wrote:Maybe Loggains can revise his scheme for his QB. How many players on the offense would be adversely affected by a change?Mikefive wrote:But as far as shoehorning him into Loggains' WCO scheme, I think that's a really tough sell with his risktaking AND outrageous mechanics. He's a smart and coachable kid and all (which I also love about him), but that's a whole lot of changes you're making to a guy to have him run a scheme.
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I get the Loggains-Locker connection, but not the Locker-Mahomes connection.wab wrote:Mahomes is similar to Jake Locker. Loggains has experience with that type of dude.
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Thick, athletic QBs with big arms.Middleguard wrote:I get the Loggains-Locker connection, but not the Locker-Mahomes connection.wab wrote:Mahomes is similar to Jake Locker. Loggains has experience with that type of dude.
I honestly like Mahomes more as a prospect, better arm and IMO more of a playmaker off schedule.
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