MMQB details on 49ers war room during Trubisky trade

[Hiphopopotamos]

What's his source?

Indeed, Adam Schefter clearly has no idea what he's talking about and is a very unreliable source.

You should really watch the video from the link you provided. This was all speculation. Schefter was just throwing out a theory about what he thinks might have happened and the article posted it as if it was fact.

And I would trust a Schefter theory infinitely more than LaJACKASSconforta supposed sources, which is code for he pulled more bullshit out of his arse.

LaCanfora was literally just called a liar by quite a few national guys re: his story on former Bills GM Doug Whaley. In this case LaCanfora is trying to piggy back off of a Mort report. Unfortunately for Jason, Mort has already walked back his initial report.

[Rusty Trombagent]

1. After what seemed like endless conversations over weekend about the Bears’ unorthodox draft, I went to bed Sunday night with this two-part conclusion:

A. The 49ers did have another team that wanted to trade up No. 2.
B. That team was probably not the Cleveland Browns, who badly coveted Trubisky, but had no idea the Bears wanted the same quarterback at No. 3.

And that’s the irony of this situation: the Bears are essentially getting punished for doing an outstanding job of keeping their interest in Trubisky quiet. Had they tipped their hand, it’s entirely possible the Browns — or another team — would have traded up to No. 2. At the very least, the 49ers would have had more offers and Pace would have had to give up a lot more than he did.

Consider that as of Thursday afternoon, the 49ers and Bears still did not know if the Browns were actually taking Myles Garrett at No. 1. Cleveland’s love for Trubisky was 100 percent real and if they were even considering taking the quarterback over a once-in-a-lifetime talent like Garrett, then it was entirely plausible they would be willing to use their truck-load of acquired draft capital to trade back up to No. 2.

My informed conclusion is that the Browns absolutely wanted to trade back up to get Trubisky, but they did not know they had to go all the way to No. 2 to get him. Pace deserves credit for this.


http://wgnradio.com/2017/05/01/hoges-10 ... ars-draft/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

hoge's whole piece is pretty damn positive and worth your click if you havent read it yet.

[Pagan]

This is just yet another example of you do NOT try to be the first to post "news" or be too quick to form a strong Opinion based on the opinion of others.

How many times do we need to have arguments based on biased opinions & alternative facts?

This is one of/the most educated sports groups & it's STILL ridiculous how fast some of us jump on a negative Chicago Bears/sports narritve!

[Boris13c]

This is just yet another example of you do NOT try to be the first to post "news" or be too quick to form a strong Opinion based on the opinion of others.

How many times do we need to have arguments based on biased opinions & alternative facts?

This is one of/the most educated sports groups & it's STILL ridiculous how fast some of us jump on a negative Chicago Bears/sports narritve!

problem is, these guys are not trying to post news ... they are trying to be the first with the headline that grabs the most hits ... facts are rarely if ever part of their story writing / posting criteria ... so these alleged "experts" we're all supposed to be following get more attention and prestige than they deserve

doesn't seem too long ago you could generally trust the reports from major news organizations as they did their homework before going public with their thoughts (perhaps those days were longer ago than I'm thinking at the moment) ... these days, whatever they feel like pulling from their ass goes straight to the keyboard and then out to the world as a "major scoop"

the only positive from these clowns now is it looks like they are ready to feed on each other ... other media types calling bullshit on LaHysteria is a welcome sight ... but the flipside is even those doing a positive thing in this case have things-from-their-ass problems of their own with the stuff they write

guess this is just the curse of the interweb world where sports reporters no longer have editors to please with facts before they can go to print ... they can just make up whatever they want, claim it is from inside sources, and hit send ... and don't even get me started on the idiocy of twitter

so I guess it would behoove us all that when we read something from these knobs saying "un-named inside sources have told me ....", we need to instantly translate that to "I'm making this shit up as I go" and handle it accordingly

[karhu]

On the one hand, yeah, Pace got played. Badly. And now the league knows it.

On the other hand, what would we have honestly done with that fourth-rounder? Not being snide here: we probably traded out of a guy who wouldn't or shouldn't have made the team anyway.

[thunderspirit]

On the one hand, yeah, Pace got played. Badly. And now the league knows it.

Yet Pace was still able to make a good trade in Round 2 with another team that "knew" he "got played." Seems to me, if the rest of the league knew he was a pigeon, that wouldn't happen; they'd hold out till they got what they wanted instead.

I don't think he got played. He paid more than you would've paid, I get that. Heck, he probably paid more than I would've paid. But he did it to ensure no one else got his guy, and if you're sold on someone, that's what you do.

[Boris13c]

On the one hand, yeah, Pace got played. Badly. And now the league knows it.

not so fast sport

go here to this page of the Halas Hall forum - http://www.bearsfansonline.com/forum/vi ... 8&start=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and click this - Inside the Bears’ Covert Op to Draft Mitchell Trubisky

and join the discussion

[karhu]

On the one hand, yeah, Pace got played. Badly. And now the league knows it.

not so fast sport

go here to this page of the Halas Hall forum - http://www.bearsfansonline.com/forum/vi ... 8&start=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and click this - Inside the Bears’ Covert Op to Draft Mitchell Trubisky

and join the discussion

Wish I had time, champ.

But for what it's worth, by "played", I just mean that Pace didn't strike the best deal he could've. Doesn't seem to have done much to push back against the premise they presented and the terms they dictated.

[RING4CHI]

John Lynch was on the Rich Eisen Show the other day to talk the draft, and he gave his side of what went down with trading with the Bears.

If it worked, I attached the podcast file to the hour Lynch was on. Interview starts at the 23:40 mark.

http://www.richeisenshow.com/listen-live/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[BamaBear09]

On the other hand, what would we have honestly done with that fourth-rounder? Not being snide here: we probably traded out of a guy who wouldn't or shouldn't have made the team anyway.

Well considering some believe he traded up for Jackson because he missed out on the guy who went a pick before him... the guy selected with the 111 pick, the one he threw in extra on the deal... maybe we would have drafted that guy...

[malk]

It's by the by but my reasoning for not liking the pick/trade isn't down to whether it had the right value or whether Pace was played or not. It's down to the evaluation of Trubisky and whether he was (not will be) the stand out QB in this draft. Of course Pace has made his evaluation and, surely, must think that Trubisky is head and shoulders above all the other QBs.

So if one agrees that it was Biscuits <<< everyone else then sure, three mid round picks is pretty much fine. On the other hand, if he's about the same as the next best QB then it isn't the cost of two 3s and a 4, it's two 3s, a 4 plus the trade down haul, something like two 2nds plus mid rounders or an additional 1st, 2nd and mid rounders.

Is Biscuits better than Watson/Mahomes + a 2018 1st, 2x 2nds, 2x 3rds and a 5th. That's the question I'm asking. Admittedly those picks are off the top of my head, please substitute for whatever you think is realistic.