2018 NFL Draft Prospects

G08 · Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:11 am

PFF had him at a 75.8 last season FWIW.

I like the kid, needs to prove that he can handle work at 5T rather than just playing 3T in sub packages (although that was his bread and butter at Florida).

mmmc_35 · Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:16 am

Wab mentioned Taven Bryan in another thread. I kind of looked past him, wrongly. He is a beast. I would actually consider him at 8. As a badger fan the JJ Watt comp isn't exactly accurate. But poor man's version isn't far off.

Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:20 am

mmmc_35 wrote:Wab mentioned Taven Bryan in another thread. I kind of looked past him, wrongly. He is a beast. I would actually consider him at 8. As a badger fan the JJ Watt comp isn't exactly accurate. But poor man's version isn't far off.

Welcome to the light.

Hiphopopotamos · Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:41 am

mmmc_35 wrote:Wab mentioned Taven Bryan in another thread. I kind of looked past him, wrongly. He is a beast. I would actually consider him at 8. As a badger fan the JJ Watt comp isn't exactly accurate. But poor man's version isn't far off.

I’d feel a lot better about that comparison if he had put up anywhere close to a Watt season.

Bryan looks the part, has the measureables, and his highlights are awesome.

But it hasn’t translated necessarily into production/box score - and that concerns me.

Hematite · Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:49 am

Hiphopopotamos wrote:
mmmc_35 wrote:Wab mentioned Taven Bryan in another thread. I kind of looked past him, wrongly. He is a beast. I would actually consider him at 8. As a badger fan the JJ Watt comp isn't exactly accurate. But poor man's version isn't far off.

I’d feel a lot better about that comparison if he had put up anywhere close to a Watt season.

Bryan looks the part, has the measureables, and his highlights are awesome.

But it hasn’t translated necessarily into production/box score - and that concerns me.

I really, really like Bryan if he somehow falls to the 2nd round. I doubt it, but I think he will be drafted mid to late in the first round. Can't see top 10 though!

Hiphopopotamos · Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:50 pm

Chad Reuter 5 round Mock on NFL.com:

Bears picks:

(1) OG Quentin Nelson
(2) DE/T Taven Bryan
(3)
(4a) EDGE Kemoko Turay
(4b) OT Jemarco Jones
(5) DB Darius Phillips

G08 · Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:23 pm

Meh... I'd rather go Tremaine Edmunds in the first, Will Hernandez in the second, trade both 4ths to move up in the third for Josey Jewell, and take an OT in the 5th.

Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:42 pm

Hiphopopotamos wrote:Chad Reuter 5 round Mock on NFL.com:

Bears picks:

(1) OG Quentin Nelson
(2) DE/T Taven Bryan
(3)
(4a) EDGE Kemoko Turay
(4b) OT Jemarco Jones
(5) DB Darius Phillips

I'd love this draft. Turay is one of my sleepers.

cblaz11 · Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:53 pm

I wouldn't hate it

Bryan is a great athlete but he has high bust potential. If you watch a full game off him, he plays upright and his motor isn't what you would expect. I don't like him in the 1st, but I do in the 2nd.

Kemoko Turay....love that pick. Kids gonna be a solid player!

mmmc_35 · Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:10 pm

cblaz11 wrote:I wouldn't hate it

Bryan is a great athlete but he has high bust potential. If you watch a full game off him, he plays upright and his motor isn't what you would expect. I don't like him in the 1st, but I do in the 2nd.

Kemoko Turay....love that pick. Kids gonna be a solid player!

I am not a big fan of Turay. He is worth a 4th based solely on physical ability. He reminds me of Nick Perry without the strong hands. Both are a bit rigid in there movements. Turay can close. If he figures out how to use his hands and counter, there might be something there. Some of my problems come on how he was used, and I shouldn't count that against him. To often he wasn't trying to get up field which irritated me but it's not his fault.

I also disagree with Bryan. Yes he does get to high out of his stance. He is a unique talent.

cblaz11 · Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:51 am

mmmc_35 wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:I wouldn't hate it

Bryan is a great athlete but he has high bust potential. If you watch a full game off him, he plays upright and his motor isn't what you would expect. I don't like him in the 1st, but I do in the 2nd.

Kemoko Turay....love that pick. Kids gonna be a solid player!
I am not a big fan of Turay. He is worth a 4th based solely on physical ability. He reminds me of Nick Perry without the strong hands. Both are a bit rigid in there movements. Turay can close. If he figures out how to use his hands and counter, there might be something there. Some of my problems come on how he was used, and I shouldn't count that against him. To often he wasn't trying to get up field which irritated me but it's not his fault.

I also disagree with Bryan. Yes he does get to high out of his stance. He is a unique talent.

Couldn't disagree more. Turay has flaws, but hand usage is not one of them. Look below, you don't see many guys out of college doing what he does with his hands.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtsco ... turay/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cblaz11 · Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:01 am

mmmc_35 wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:I wouldn't hate it

Bryan is a great athlete but he has high bust potential. If you watch a full game off him, he plays upright and his motor isn't what you would expect. I don't like him in the 1st, but I do in the 2nd.

Kemoko Turay....love that pick. Kids gonna be a solid player!
I am not a big fan of Turay. He is worth a 4th based solely on physical ability. He reminds me of Nick Perry without the strong hands. Both are a bit rigid in there movements. Turay can close. If he figures out how to use his hands and counter, there might be something there. Some of my problems come on how he was used, and I shouldn't count that against him. To often he wasn't trying to get up field which irritated me but it's not his fault.

I also disagree with Bryan. Yes he does get to high out of his stance. He is a unique talent.

17 second mark, 39 second, 51...the guy uses his hands very well

https://youtubevideos.io/Cfb-film-room- ... JqHNWeaQy0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cblaz11 · Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:05 am

I like Bryan..he flashes in this game. That being said, he also ends up on his butt a lot.

One of the most important things for a Dlinemen is staying on your feet, there are a lot of plays in every game where he doesn't do it. At the next level, that will double if he doesn't develop. Again, I like him, but not at 8, and probably not in the 1st.

http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/12/05/ta ... tate-2017/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mmmc_35 · Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:30 pm

cblaz11 wrote:
mmmc_35 wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:I wouldn't hate it

Bryan is a great athlete but he has high bust potential. If you watch a full game off him, he plays upright and his motor isn't what you would expect. I don't like him in the 1st, but I do in the 2nd.

Kemoko Turay....love that pick. Kids gonna be a solid player!
I am not a big fan of Turay. He is worth a 4th based solely on physical ability. He reminds me of Nick Perry without the strong hands. Both are a bit rigid in there movements. Turay can close. If he figures out how to use his hands and counter, there might be something there. Some of my problems come on how he was used, and I shouldn't count that against him. To often he wasn't trying to get up field which irritated me but it's not his fault.

I also disagree with Bryan. Yes he does get to high out of his stance. He is a unique talent.

17 second mark, 39 second, 51...the guy uses his hands very well

https://youtubevideos.io/Cfb-film-room- ... JqHNWeaQy0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Eh I could be wrong. I remember linemen getting into his chest more.

Adipost · Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:05 pm

Here’s a really great read...

Retired NFL defensive lineman Stephen White breaks down the pass rusher who might have the highest ceiling of any in the draft.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/20/17089168/2018-nfl-draft-marcus-davenport-breakdown-scouting-report

G08 · Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:08 pm

I've completely forgotten about Davenport. I just feel like dude is way too raw for #8.

Hematite · Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:07 pm

G08 wrote:I've completely forgotten about Davenport. I just feel like dude is way too raw for #8.

I feel the same way about Edmunds at 8 as well (as an edge rusher). Edmunds freakish athletic ability cushions that somewhat, but with our biggest need being edge rusher, its a worry. If Pace picks him, I'm sure he's satisfied he will fill that role nicely.

I'm with you 100% on Edge Rusher, Guard/Center in the first two rounds.

Thu Mar 22, 2018 1:35 pm

@AdamSchefter

Michigan’s potential first-round pick Mo Hurst has met with cardiologists at University of Michigan and Harvard, and they have cleared him to resume playing football, per league source. Hurst will do a full workout at Michigan's pro day on Friday.

DaSuperfan · Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:28 pm

What are everyone's thoughts on Duke Ejiofor OLB/Edge Wake Forest? Like him? Dislike him? Reasoning?

cblaz11 · Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:44 pm

mmmc_35 wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:
mmmc_35 wrote:
cblaz11 wrote:I wouldn't hate it

Bryan is a great athlete but he has high bust potential. If you watch a full game off him, he plays upright and his motor isn't what you would expect. I don't like him in the 1st, but I do in the 2nd.

Kemoko Turay....love that pick. Kids gonna be a solid player!
I am not a big fan of Turay. He is worth a 4th based solely on physical ability. He reminds me of Nick Perry without the strong hands. Both are a bit rigid in there movements. Turay can close. If he figures out how to use his hands and counter, there might be something there. Some of my problems come on how he was used, and I shouldn't count that against him. To often he wasn't trying to get up field which irritated me but it's not his fault.

I also disagree with Bryan. Yes he does get to high out of his stance. He is a unique talent.

17 second mark, 39 second, 51...the guy uses his hands very well

https://youtubevideos.io/Cfb-film-room- ... JqHNWeaQy0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Eh I could be wrong. I remember linemen getting into his chest more.

He kind of reminds me of Rosey Colvin. I watched a couple full games and ya, he def is struggling to get off blocks. I like him, but wouldn't want him until the 4th

thunderspirit · Thu Mar 22, 2018 9:54 pm

DaSuperfan wrote:What are everyone's thoughts on Duke Ejiofor OLB/Edge Wake Forest? Like him? Dislike him? Reasoning?

He's been nicely productive during his time at Wake. He's not explosive like Marcus Davenport or an athletic marvel like Josh Sweat. More of a lunch pail kind of guy who has very good technique and displays better skills than raw talent.

I honestly think, if Ejiofor can get stronger, he could develop into a very effective 5-technique.

mmmc_35 · Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:24 pm

I think Duke will have a long career, but will never be the guy. I think he would be a good RE. Maybe a ceiling of Alex Brown's career path

Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:04 am

Bears meeting with CB Josh Jackson today, per Rapaport.

Atkins&Rebel · Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:31 am

http://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:37 am

Atkins&Rebel wrote:http://walterfootball.com/prospectMeetings/byteam

Anyone else find it odd that there isn't a single pass rusher on this list except for Chubb?

Mike Boone, RB, Cincinnati (PRO)
Toth, Brett, OT, Army (EW)
Equanimeous St. Brown, WR, Notre Dame (PRI)
Deon Cain, WR, Clemson (COM)
Bradley Chubb, DE, N.C. State (PRI)
James Daniels, C, Iowa (PRI)
Jaylen Dunlap, CB, Illinois (PRI)
Minkah Fitzpatrick, S, Alabama (WOR)
Matthew Gono, G, Wesley (PRI)
Mike Hughes, CB, Central Florida (PRI)
Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina (COM)
Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville (COM)
Elijah Marks, WR, Northern Arizona (PRI)
Jamar McGloster, OT, Syracuse (EW)
Tarvarius Moore, FS, Southern Mississippi (PRI)
Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T (COM)
DeMornay Pierson-El, WR, Nebraska (PRO)
Kyle Queiro, FS, Northwestern (WOR)
Jeremy Reaves, S, South Alabama (PRI)
Calvin Ridley^, WR, Alabama (COM, PRO)
Brandon Shed, WR, Hobart (PRO)
Roquan Smith, OLB/ILB, Georgia (PRI)
Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU (COM)
Jonah Trinnaman, WR, Brigham Young (PRO)
Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State (COM)

thunderspirit · Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:08 am

Maybe, yeah.

In 2016 they had private meetings with Floyd and Whitehair.
In 2017 they had a private meeting with Cohen, a clandestine workout with Trubisky, and coached Jordan Morgan at the Senior Bowl.

The Bears reportedly met with a few small-school guys at this year's Senior Bowl.

There are a few more names here than on the Walter Football list, but still not deep in edge guys. This might be something akin to the Trubisky thing last year, I dunno.

G08 · Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:36 am

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/ ... id=2560032" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Watch that middle clip / interview. I want to shake this dude's hand.

Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:03 pm

G08 wrote:http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/ ... id=2560032

Watch that middle clip / interview. I want to shake this dude's hand.

Yeah, I read up on him during senior bowl week. Seems like a great kid. I don't know a ton about him as a player, except that he's undersized.

G08 · Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:43 pm

wab wrote:
G08 wrote:http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/ ... id=2560032

Watch that middle clip / interview. I want to shake this dude's hand.
Yeah, I read up on him during senior bowl week. Seems like a great kid. I don't know a ton about him as a player, except that he's undersized.

He's got some juice to him though, huh?

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Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:49 pm

@ZachOsterman

Simmie Cobbs says he’ll work out with the Colts and Bears in the next few days. #iufb