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The #6 pick has a draft value of 1,600. If somebody wants their QB up there it's worth more.

For argument's sake only that's the #10 pick plus a second rounder in return. I'd have a hard time passing that up if Key is off the board.

WalterFootball has Ferrell going #14 to the Raiders. I would be happy if they drafted him and used the 2nd rounder on BPA.

For what it’s worth, the Bills two current picks add up to 1700.

wab wrote:For what it’s worth, the Bills two current picks add up to 1700.

Personally, I'd run up to the podium if McGlinchey is there when we pick. Otherwise Christian Wilkins and Saquon Barkley round out my top 3 right now. (Yes I still like Jordan Howard, but I think you take the playmaker when he's available and Fournette is a huge reason the Jags are winning this year)

In the 2nd, if either WR Equanimeous St. Brown or Simmie Cobbs reach us in the 2nd I do cart wheels down the isle.
Otherwise I'm looking for CB Joshua Jackson from Iowa.

If we could trade back into round 3...
Sione and Maea Teuhema, if they pass scrutiny in interviews, would be my ideal 3rd round picks. Very athletic OLB and a huge mauling guard who can slide out to Tackle in a pinch and our O line gets pinched a lot.

Today's win only cost 2 draft spots (1 down vs 1 up if Bears had lost). The next will probably be a lot more expensive, though.

PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS STREAK
1
Cleveland
0-13 .000 -- .527 Lost 13
2
NY Giants
2-11 .154 2.0 .515 Lost 3
3
Indianapolis
3-10 .231 3.0 .490 Lost 4
4
San Francisco
3-10 .231 3.0 .525 Won 2
5
Denver
4-9 .308 4.0 .483 Won 1
6
Houston
CLE Cle 4-9 .308 4.0 .512 Lost 3
7
Chicago
4-9 .308 4.0 .551 Won 1
8
Tampa Bay
4-9 .308 4.0 .558 Lost 3
9
Cincinnati
5-8 .385 5.0 .473 Lost 2
10
NY Jets
5-8 .385 5.0 .522 Lost 1
11
Washington
5-8 .385 5.0 .525 Lost 2
12
Miami
5-7 .417 5.5 .551 Won 1
13
Arizona
6-7 .462 6.0 .485 Won 1
14
Oakland
6-7 .462 6.0 .500 Lost 1

Looking at those teams I think any chance we can trade back for a QB need team is slim. I could see almost all of them taking one except Houston.

bearsfaninaz wrote:Looking at those teams I think any chance we can trade back for a QB need team is slim. I could see almost all of them taking one except Houston.

And SF.
But, yeah, the QBs and Sasquatch will likely all be gone at that point.

If we stay at 7, the pickings for positions we need should be good.
If we win a couple more, which seems likely, the pickings from 12-14 are likely to suck, relatively speaking.

Arizona and the Jets seem like the most logical of choices for a trade partner but you're right - there would have to be one available that a team below us would really want.

We might well end up picking outside the top 10 this season now. The teams around us have harder run ins, especially if the Vikings don't have much to play for.

Currently we pick 7th.

I think the Vikings have a lot to play for in week 17 with yesterday's results.

I'm back on the optimism train. We play like that against the Lions and the Browns and we have a good shot at winning both. Man, we only lost to the Vikings by three so how much better is our offence now compared to falling back on defence?

I think we can beat the Browns for sure, and I'm 50/50 on the Lions. It would be fun to win out, as long as it doesn't mean Fox gets to keep his job.

wab wrote:I think we can beat the Browns for sure, and I'm 50/50 on the Lions. It would be fun to win out, as long as it doesn't mean Fox gets to keep his job.

I'm not sure I care much about the end results any more, I just want Trubisky to continue to ascend playing solid football.

wab wrote:I think we can beat the Browns for sure, and I'm 50/50 on the Lions. It would be fun to win out, as long as it doesn't mean Fox gets to keep his job.

John Fox is not driving the optimism train!

some mild interest:

1 Cleveland 0-14
2 NY Giants 2-12
3 Indianapolis 3-11
4 HoustonCLE Cle4-10
5 San Francisco 4-10
6 Chicago 4-10
7 Tampa Bay 4-9
8 Cincinnati 5-9

-49ers on a 3 game win streak, but they close out with the jags and the rams. that's pretty tough.
-colts and houston end the season. if the texans win and we continue to be horrible, we could end up top five and ahead of cleveland's second pick, which could get really interesting if they try and get by not taking a qb first overall.

PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS STREAK
1
Cleveland
0-14 .000 -- .513 Lost 14
2
NY Giants
2-12 .143 2.0 .527 Lost 4
3
Indianapolis
3-11 .214 3.0 .487 Lost 5
4
Houston
CLE Cle 4-10 .286 4.0 .504 Lost 4
5
San Francisco
4-10 .286 4.0 .511 Won 3
6
Chicago
4-10 .286 4.0 .559 Lost 1
7
Tampa Bay
4-9 .308 4.5 .559 Lost 3
8
Cincinnati
5-9 .357 5.0 .473 Lost 3
9
Denver
5-9 .357 5.0 .484 Won 2
10
NY Jets
5-9 .357 5.0 .534 Lost 2
11
Arizona
6-8 .429 6.0 .486 Lost 1
12
Washington
6-8 .429 6.0 .529 Won 1
13
Miami
6-8 .429 6.0 .552 Lost 1
14
Oakland
6-7 .462 6.5 .507 Lost 1

So it looks like 3-14 is possible, but 5-10 is the most likely range.
If I had to pick, I'd bet on 9.
I think they beat Cleveland, but can't take out a MIN team, even playing half backups.

You'd imagine the Texans will beat the Colts and whilst Jax and the Rams are good I'm holding out hope Garoppolo stays hot and takes one game.

Bucs, Bengals and Jets lose out which puts us behind them on strength of schedule (it's killing us!). Denver gets a win to stay ahead.

That takes us to 8th, enough to make you want Fox to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in an othewise promising performance against the Browns. That makes us 4th.

RustyTrubisky wrote:some mild interest:

1 Cleveland 0-14
2 NY Giants 2-12
3 Indianapolis 3-11
4 HoustonCLE Cle4-10
5 San Francisco 4-10
6 Chicago 4-10
7 Tampa Bay 4-9
8 Cincinnati 5-9

-49ers on a 3 game win streak, but they close out with the jags and the rams. that's pretty tough.
-colts and houston end the season. if the texans win and we continue to be horrible, we could end up top five and ahead of cleveland's second pick, which could get really interesting if they try and get by not taking a qb first overall.

In that scenario I'd sell it to Buffalo for their 2 first rounders.

Wab's mock draft has McGlinchy, Ridley, and Ferell on the board at the time of Buffalo's two picks. Any two of those three works, but put me down for Ferrell and Ridley.

PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS STREAK
1
Cleveland
0-15 .000 -- .515 Lost 15
2
NY Giants
2-13 .133 2.0 .532 Lost 5
3
Indianapolis
3-12 .200 3.0 .485 Lost 6
4
Tampa Bay
4-11 .267 4.0 .558 Lost 5
5
Houston
CLE Cle 4-10 .286 4.5 .506 Lost 4
6
Denver
5-10 .333 5.0 .485 Lost 1
7
San Francisco
5-10 .333 5.0 .521 Won 4
8
NY Jets
5-10 .333 5.0 .523 Lost 3
9
Chicago
5-10 .333 5.0 .555 Won 1
10
Cincinnati
6-9 .400 6.0 .464 Won 1
11
Miami
6-9 .400 6.0 .544 Lost 2
12
Oakland
6-8 .429 6.5 .506 Lost 2

Fall to 9.
5-12 possible in this final week.
The Vikings have to care about home field vs Philly, right?

The Bears really should just not show up.

Moriarty wrote:

PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS STREAK
1
Cleveland
0-15 .000 -- .515 Lost 15
2
NY Giants
2-13 .133 2.0 .532 Lost 5
3
Indianapolis
3-12 .200 3.0 .485 Lost 6
4
Tampa Bay
4-11 .267 4.0 .558 Lost 5
5
Houston
CLE Cle 4-10 .286 4.5 .506 Lost 4
6
Denver
5-10 .333 5.0 .485 Lost 1
7
San Francisco
5-10 .333 5.0 .521 Won 4
8
NY Jets
5-10 .333 5.0 .523 Lost 3
9
Chicago
5-10 .333 5.0 .555 Won 1
10
Cincinnati
6-9 .400 6.0 .464 Won 1
11
Miami
6-9 .400 6.0 .544 Lost 2
12
Oakland
6-8 .429 6.5 .506 Lost 2

Fall to 9.
5-12 possible in this final week.
The Vikings have to care about home field vs Philly, right?

Correct, but if Philly win's tonight against Oakland, they will lock up home-field advantage throughout the playoffs.

It would be in our best interest, from a draft perspective, for Oakland to win tonight so Minnesota comes out next week with something to play for to close out the season.

Moriarty wrote:

PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS STREAK
1
Cleveland
0-15 .000 -- .515 Lost 15
2
NY Giants
2-13 .133 2.0 .532 Lost 5
3
Indianapolis
3-12 .200 3.0 .485 Lost 6
4
Tampa Bay
4-11 .267 4.0 .558 Lost 5
5
Houston
CLE Cle 4-10 .286 4.5 .506 Lost 4
6
Denver
5-10 .333 5.0 .485 Lost 1
7
San Francisco
5-10 .333 5.0 .521 Won 4
8
NY Jets
5-10 .333 5.0 .523 Lost 3
9
Chicago
5-10 .333 5.0 .555 Won 1
10
Cincinnati
6-9 .400 6.0 .464 Won 1
11
Miami
6-9 .400 6.0 .544 Lost 2
12
Oakland
6-8 .429 6.5 .506 Lost 2

Fall to 9.
5-12 possible in this final week.
The Vikings have to care about home field vs Philly, right?

That Bengals game is going to bite us in the ass.

G08 wrote:

Moriarty wrote:

PICK TEAM RECORD WIN% GB SOS STREAK
1
Cleveland
0-15 .000 -- .515 Lost 15
2
NY Giants
2-13 .133 2.0 .532 Lost 5
3
Indianapolis
3-12 .200 3.0 .485 Lost 6
4
Tampa Bay
4-11 .267 4.0 .558 Lost 5
5
Houston
CLE Cle 4-10 .286 4.5 .506 Lost 4
6
Denver
5-10 .333 5.0 .485 Lost 1
7
San Francisco
5-10 .333 5.0 .521 Won 4
8
NY Jets
5-10 .333 5.0 .523 Lost 3
9
Chicago
5-10 .333 5.0 .555 Won 1
10
Cincinnati
6-9 .400 6.0 .464 Won 1
11
Miami
6-9 .400 6.0 .544 Lost 2
12
Oakland
6-8 .429 6.5 .506 Lost 2

Fall to 9.
5-12 possible in this final week.
The Vikings have to care about home field vs Philly, right?

Correct, but if Philly win's tonight against Oakland, they will lock up home-field advantage throughout the playoffs.

It would be in our best interest, from a draft perspective, for Oakland to win tonight so Minnesota comes out next week with something to play for to close out the season.

They still have yet to wrap-up a first round bye.

So, they have a lot to play for.

I mean, what's the best we can do at this point?

When you start talking about the difference between the 8th or 11th pick.

Yeah, I don't really give a turkey...

Richie wrote:I mean, what's the best we can do at this point?

When you start talking about the difference between the 8th or 11th pick.

A 3rd round pick, which we currently do not have.

Richie wrote: They still have yet to wrap-up a first round bye.

So, they have a lot to play for.

Oh man that is awesome to hear, so they'll be playing for something.

Looks like the lowest we will be picking is 13th, highest is 5th.

Realistically? I think we will be picking 9th when it's all said and done.

OT, OLB, CB looks like the move in round 1... Minkah Fitzpatrick is who I am hoping we can land (assuming our brass believes he can be a top-tier corner)... love the idea of Fuller and him on the outside.

Otherwise, I'd have to heavily lean RT. If we want an offensive minded head coach, we better afford him the opportunity to only protect with 5 and send everyone else out in passing routes.

G08 wrote:Looks like the lowest we will be picking is 13th, highest is 5th.

Realistically? I think we will be picking 9th when it's all said and done.

OT, OLB, CB looks like the move in round 1... Minkah Fitzpatrick is who I am hoping we can land (assuming our brass believes he can be a top-tier corner)... love the idea of Fuller and him on the outside.

Otherwise, I'd have to heavily lean RT. If we want an offensive minded head coach, we better afford him the opportunity to only protect with 5 and send everyone else out in passing routes.

You can get an RT on day 2 or in FA.

The big difference will be our ability to trade down to fill multiple holes. From 4th to 9th to both Bills would have been awesome (and the smattering of later round picks to go with it).