Do the Bears trade back in the draft?

[wab]

Assuming both corners are brought back (or it's not otherwise addressed in FA), it really should be OL or pass rusher. That's where the value appears to be at #8.

Plus, pace has shown conviction in the draft, especially in R1, so he doesn't strike me as a guy that's going to drop down unless some team really makes it worth his while.

On the flip side, if we only bring Fuller back I reallllllllllly like the Iowa kid, Josh Jackson.

Same. He's legit.

[DaSuperfan]

Love Josh Jackson. He's got tons of ability as a CB1 in the NFL. As for a trade back, I think it depends on the offer and if they're comfortable moving down in the draft at that point. If there's a player that Pace has targeted and is available - then I think he stands pat and drafts his guy.

If we can re-sign Fuller and Amukamara, sign a FA WR and maybe an upgrade at OT over Massie, then I'd focus on Edge Rusher or OL with the 1st pick.

I really like Harold Landry as a 34 edge rusher and I think people are sleeping on him a bit. I like him better than Ferrell in the 34 scheme. Also, you can't go wrong with Nelson even though he's a guard.

[malk]

We're crying out for pass rush, it's head and shoulders above any other priority for me. Yes a corner will be important if we don't resign Fuller and Amukamara but those resignings are a priority for me. The offensive line needs to get better but it was fine before injuries. Talk of Leno and Massie is less important to me than what we're going to do with Long and Sitton, there's a lot of cap space tied up in those two guards.

I'll trust Pace though, I love speculating about the draft but there's definitely a comfort in having loads of confidence in Pace to make the right decision.

[Moriarty]

Maybe

Right now, looks like the Bears are rightat the edge of where there's a big drop in talent from one tier to the next.

If a Tier 1 edge rusher makes it to 8, I think you have to bite.

If an in-demand QB lasts to 8, you have to look seriously at trade offers.

If the top tier QBs and OLBs are gone, you fish around and see if there's anyone that wants something at 9 (McGlinchey & Fitzpatrick being the most 'unique'/valuable commodities I see around that area).

[The Marshall Plan]

As long as the draft stays true to the mocks in terms of positions selected. Obviously no mock should be expected to be accurate, but there are gonna be a shit-ton of QBs taken before our turn. We are going to be able to draft an impactful player on defense and have a good selection to choose from.

[wab]

Everyone bags on Massie, but the funny thing is that he was the Bears best offensive linemen for the majority of the season, and is actually the best fit in Nagy's offense.

If the Bears are looking to move on from him, it's because of the money he's making, not necessarily because of his play.

Aside from that, if they want to upgrade the OL, it's the interior they need to be looking at. Sitton missed 7 games and is making a ton of money, Long is nearing 30 and ended another year on IR. Whitehair should be ok. Leno just got paid, but is he a good fit on the edge now, or is he better inside?

[Atkins&Rebel]

I could see packaging our pick to trade for a player in a trade down scenario. Like if we want Demarcus Lawrence and the Cowboys tag him...maybe offer to drop to 19 in order to trade for Lawrence.

But that is the only way I'd like to move back in some kind of 2 for 1 where we get a player and the pick in exchange.

I see us having a ton of cap space and while building through the draft is quaint...most teams still need a big trade or FA splash to solidify rosters.

[G08]

Everyone bags on Massie, but the funny thing is that he was the Bears best offensive linemen for the majority of the season, and is actually the best fit in Nagy's offense.

If the Bears are looking to move on from him, it's because of the money he's making, not necessarily because of his play.

Aside from that, if they want to upgrade the OL, it's the interior they need to be looking at. Sitton missed 7 games and is making a ton of money, Long is nearing 30 and ended another year on IR. Whitehair should be ok. Leno just got paid, but is he a good fit on the edge now, or is he better inside?

Leno Nelson Whitehair Long Massie ?

[Hematite]

I think its time to take a page out of the Patriots draft strategy and start loading up on mid round draft picks. I think stats prove that quantity of picks especially in the 2nd and 3rd rounds (1st would be ideal, but you'd have to suck long and hard aka the Browns) is a safer and better strategy over the long haul than trading away picks to move up. Also, having Trubisky, the franchise QB on the roster makes this a much easier strategy.

So yes, in my mind, its time for the Bears to start trading back in future drafts.

[wab]

Leno Nelson Whitehair Long Massie ?

I’m good with that for now, but I think only Whitehair and Nelson are a part of that group in two years. The Bears need to prepare for life after Long, Massie is entering the last year of his deal, and I’m worried about a precipitous drop off in performance at LT in this system (I hope I’m wrong about that last part). Is Lee or Morgan going to take a step and replace Long someday?

Nelson is a good pick because he can play either guard spot and either tackle spot.

[crueltyabc]

I'm against trading back this year. We still need to be searching for impact players and they're more likely to be found in the first two rounds. There are a few very good players in this draft, and considering the QB needs in front of us, it's likely that they will fall.

And btw

The Patriots are not successful because they do an awesome job of amassing picks in the mid rounds and finding gems, they're successful because the have possibly the best coach and possibly the best QB in history. They surround Brady with average or above average support and the coaches win with scheme.

EDIT
And Brady agreed to play for cheap. And they cheat. It's not draft genius

[Rusty Trombagent]

I'm against trading back this year. We still need to be searching for impact players and they're more likely to be found in the first two rounds. There are a few very good players in this draft, and considering the QB needs in front of us, it's likely that they will fall.

And btw

The Patriots are not successful because they do an awesome job of amassing picks in the mid rounds and finding gems, they're successful because the have possibly the best coach and possibly the best QB in history. They surround Brady with average or above average support and the coaches win with scheme.

EDIT
And Brady agreed to play for cheap. And they cheat. It's not draft genius

yeah, if anything it's pretty much universally accepted that belichick's weakest quality is his drafting.

[G08]

If his knee checks out... I'd be all over Connor Williams. Keep him at RT for 3-4 years and when Leno's contract is up, kick him over to LT. Kid is what, 20?

[mmmc_35]

If his knee checks out... I'd be all over Connor Williams. Keep him at RT for 3-4 years and when Leno's contract is up, kick him over to LT. Kid is what, 20?

Agree with that. It would make a talented line when healthy, with a mix of youth and experience. Obviously health is a concern but you can't complain about this line up.

Leno Long Whitehair Sitton Williams

[DaSuperfan]

If his knee checks out... I'd be all over Connor Williams. Keep him at RT for 3-4 years and when Leno's contract is up, kick him over to LT. Kid is what, 20?

Yep, he's 20.

[Hematite]

I'm against trading back this year. We still need to be searching for impact players and they're more likely to be found in the first two rounds. There are a few very good players in this draft, and considering the QB needs in front of us, it's likely that they will fall.

And btw

The Patriots are not successful because they do an awesome job of amassing picks in the mid rounds and finding gems, they're successful because the have possibly the best coach and possibly the best QB in history. They surround Brady with average or above average support and the coaches win with scheme.

EDIT
And Brady agreed to play for cheap. And they cheat. It's not draft genius

Well if you can't beat em...join em!

I can tell you trading away draft picks hasn't worked very well for Chicago either. Might as well try a different strategy.

[Atkins&Rebel]

If his knee checks out... I'd be all over Connor Williams. Keep him at RT for 3-4 years and when Leno's contract is up, kick him over to LT. Kid is what, 20?

Agree with that. It would make a talented line when healthy, with a mix of youth and experience. Obviously health is a concern but you can't complain about this line up.

Leno Long Whitehair Sitton Williams

I agree with the logic, but until proven healthy, you can't plan for Long to start let alone play.

[wab]

I’m not counting on Long to play much more in his career, let alone much next season.

[G08]

I’m not counting on Long to play much more in his career, let alone much next season.

You've been saying this for a while now and I didn't want to believe it. I think you're onto something but still hope you're wrong my friend.

[The Marshall Plan]

I could see packaging our pick to trade for a player in a trade down scenario. Like if we want Demarcus Lawrence and the Cowboys tag him...maybe offer to drop to 19 in order to trade for Lawrence.

But that is the only way I'd like to move back in some kind of 2 for 1 where we get a player and the pick in exchange.

I see us having a ton of cap space and while building through the draft is quaint...most teams still need a big trade or FA splash to solidify rosters.

As the Bears I take that deal and run provided that Lawrence signs an extension. With pass rush addressed, then you can take a good long look if Nelson or McGlinchey drop that far (even though I hate taking OL that high up) or you go CB or ILB.

Oddly enough Walter Football has Roquan Smith taken right there at 19. If that plays out and we trade for Lawrence and then draft Smith that is a huge win.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I’m not counting on Long to play much more in his career, let alone much next season.

I think that if anyone is going to light a fire under Long, and motivate him to get healthy, it will be Hellfrich. It will be interesting to see how that dynamic plays out.

[Atkins&Rebel]

I’m not counting on Long to play much more in his career, let alone much next season.

I think that if anyone is going to light a fire under Long, and motivate him to get healthy, it will be Hellfrich. It will be interesting to see how that dynamic plays out.

I think you mean Hiestand, but even a good coach can't motivate a chronic injury to get better.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I’m not counting on Long to play much more in his career, let alone much next season.

I think that if anyone is going to light a fire under Long, and motivate him to get healthy, it will be Hellfrich. It will be interesting to see how that dynamic plays out.

I think you mean Hiestand, but even a good coach can't motivate a chronic injury to get better.

No I mean Hellfrich. That was his OC when he was at Oregon. Both him and Grasu played under him while he was coaching there. Long knows what he brings to the table. Yes Long has had some chronic injuries, but I am wondering if this would motivate him a little more to try and figure out how to STAY healthy.

[staleystarch]

I don’t see anyone wanting to trade up to only the 8th pick.

[Hematite]

The Bears become a much better team with every mock draft that I do which includes a trade down. IMO, Chubb is the only player I stay at 8 for, which is highly unlikely.

[alexwilkins]

An ideal situation for me...

Bears get:
#21
#22
Bills 2018 2nd Round pick #53
Bills 2018 2nd Round pick #55
Bills 2018 3rd Round pick #96
Bills 2019 3rd Round pick

Bills get:
#8
Bears 2018 4th Round pick(from AZ) #115
Bears 2019 4th Round pick

[wab]

An ideal situation for me...

Bears get:
#21
#22
Bills 2018 2nd Round pick #53
Bills 2018 2nd Round pick #55
Bills 2018 3rd Round pick #96
Bills 2019 3rd Round pick

Bills get:
#8
Bears 2018 4th Round pick(from AZ) #115
Bears 2019 4th Round pick

Ummmmm.... well of course that would be an ideal situation. But there's no way outside of Xbox that it's going to happen.

The Bills would be giving up almost 2500 points to the Bears 1536.

[Mikefive]

An ideal situation for me...

Bears get:
#21
#22
Bills 2018 2nd Round pick #53
Bills 2018 2nd Round pick #55
Bills 2018 3rd Round pick #96
Bills 2019 3rd Round pick

Bills get:
#8
Bears 2018 4th Round pick(from AZ) #115
Bears 2019 4th Round pick

That's one happy dream you're dreaming right there. Now wake up.

[Hematite]

As many holes that exist on this roster right now, it's trade down or bust IMO.

[Middleguard]

I wish that posters proposing trades would indicate who they think is taken in the first 7 (any order) and who the team trading with the Bears wants to snatch at #8 and why the Bears would be a better trade partner than the Bucs or the 49ers.