Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!

[BearDown333]

Why did no major program pick him up?

Watched an interview on the NFL Network and Mayock asks him that very question. Davenport says that when he was coming out of High School all of the big schools as he put it, "kinda told me that I didn't weigh enough." (weighed 198lbs) At the Senior Bowl practice his measurables were recorded as: 6'5 7/8 and 259lbs. Safe to say he's grown a tad since High School.

[The Marshall Plan]

Why did no major program pick him up?

Watched an interview on the NFL Network and Mayock asks him that very question. Davenport says that when he was coming out of High School all of the big schools as he put it, "kinda told me that I didn't weigh enough." (weighed 198lbs) At the Senior Bowl practice his measurables were recorded as: 6'5 7/8 and 259lbs. Safe to say he's grown a tad since High School.

Thanks for answering that. I'm always skeptical of the successful college prospect coming from a small school. That makes sense. He put on a bunch of weight and obviously plays well at the extra size.

[cblaz11]

Did you do a breakdown on Landry like this? That, I'd like to see

[Adipost]

Did you do a breakdown on Landry like this? That, I'd like to see

Which Landry? Here is Jarvis...

www.bearsfansonline.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12180&start=40#p194547

[cblaz11]

Harold...

Love the Jarvis breakdown though!

[cblaz11]

http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/11/18/ma ... tate-2017/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ok, so I watched a couple complete games.

Guys a wrecking ball..I mean..WRECKING BALL.

He plays a little wild at times and definitely stays a little too upright, but man he's strong and hard to block one on one.

He's a bit of a project, I just don't know if I could take him at 8

[MrPrettyBoyFancyLad]

is anyone shocked that he has risen into the top 5 overall?

[Mikefive]

http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/11/18/ma ... tate-2017/

Ok, so I watched a couple complete games.

Guys a wrecking ball..I mean..WRECKING BALL.

He plays a little wild at times and definitely stays a little too upright, but man he's strong and hard to block one on one.

He's a bit of a project, I just don't know if I could take him at 8

Two words jumped out at me when I watched that video. Texas State. Yes, he was a "wrecking ball". But I'd need to see him play against more potential NFL players before I'd draft him in R1.

[crueltyabc]

It looks like his senior bowl practices were very hot and cold. Also I watched his baylor game cutup and found him to be inconsistent. This guy worries me.

[G08]

It looks like his senior bowl practices were very hot and cold. Also I watched his baylor game cutup and found him to be inconsistent. This guy worries me.

I've cooled on him... I think he's a freak but he's going to be a huge work in progress.

Give me Tremaine Edmunds at pick #8 and our highest WR in round 2.

[Adipost]

http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/11/18/ma ... tate-2017/

Ok, so I watched a couple complete games.

Guys a wrecking ball..I mean..WRECKING BALL.

He plays a little wild at times and definitely stays a little too upright, but man he's strong and hard to block one on one.

He's a bit of a project, I just don't know if I could take him at 8

Two words jumped out at me when I watched that video. Texas State. Yes, he was a "wrecking ball". But I'd need to see him play against more potential NFL players before I'd draft him in R1.

Here is Davenport in 2016 against Texas A & M, ranked #20 in the country at the time.

Great discipline showed on a reverse...

REVERSE

Powerful punch incapacitates the RT, then gets a hit on the QB...

PUNCH

Really nice job of shedding the block to catch the RB...

SHED

Drives the TE right into the running lane...

LANE

Great catch up speed to tackle the QB, saves a big gain...

CLOSING SPEED

Manhandles the OT and gets the sack...

SACK

Tackled by the OT, drawing a holding penalty..

HOLDING

Also used in coverage for 7 snaps...

COVERAGE

Texas A & M starts double teaming him after halftime...

DOUBLE TEAM

3rd down and 11, and most edge rushers are going to sell out to get to the QB. Instead, Davenport reads this play perfectly. Great maturity...

READ

Puts an incredible move on the blocker, causing him to whiff completely. Then he sheds another block on his way to the RB...

FAKE

Makes the RT his bitch on this play, driving him back 5 yards...

BULL RUSH

Run away from Davenport, but he still catches the RB from the backside...

BACKSIDE

[MrPrettyBoyFancyLad]

question is: is he legit or is he a john thierry type.

[mmmc_35]

question is: is he legit or is he a john thierry type.

We don't really know. A good sign is he got better each day at the senior bowl.

[MrPrettyBoyFancyLad]

question is: is he legit or is he a john thierry type.

We don't really know. A good sign is he got better each day at the senior bowl.

damn, i missed the senior bowl. love watching those type of games. it really does give you a good view into how these guys will perform when they play with other elite players.

[G08]

I'm circling back on this dude. Still raw as a mother-fucker, but if you look solely at the metrics when comparing him to Aldon Smith, Marcus Davenport is:

1.5" taller
faster in the 10/20/40 yard splits (0.06/0.12/0.24)
2 reps of 225 lbs stronger
~0.5" shorter of a vertical
6" longer broad jump
0.09 second faster short shuttle
0.01 second slower 3-cone
1.75" shorter arms

[Adipost]

I'm circling back on this dude. Still raw as a mother-fucker, but if you look solely at the metrics when comparing him to Aldon Smith, Marcus Davenport is:

1.5" taller
faster in the 10/20/40 yard splits (0.06/0.12/0.24)
2 reps of 225 lbs stronger
~0.5" shorter of a vertical
6" longer broad jump
0.09 second faster short shuttle
0.01 second slower 3-cone
1.75" shorter arms

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[G08]

Is he your dude, Adi?

[Adipost]

Is he your dude, Adi?

Yes, at least for this week. The Steven White breakdown was extremely convincing.

[G08]

Is he your dude, Adi?

Yes, at least for this week. The Steven White breakdown was extremely convincing.

I see no reason why this dude can't bulk up to and play at 270 lbs. That's insane if he can keep his burst and speed.

I watched as many interviews and read as much as I could on the kid... sounds like self-confidence is a big issue of his (reports out of the Combine echo that a lot of teams were disappointed in his interview, with him even telling Les Snead of the Rams that he was nervous). I personally don't think it's a big deal, but he's going to be facing grown-ass men that want to kick his ass mentally and physically -- is he strong enough to handle that? Is our defense full of enough good dudes to have his back / build him up?

[EricTighe]

Is he your dude, Adi?

Yes, at least for this week. The Steven White breakdown was extremely convincing.

I see no reason why this dude can't bulk up to and play at 270 lbs. That's insane if he can keep his burst and speed.

I watched as many interviews and read as much as I could on the kid... sounds like self-confidence is a big issue of his (reports out of the Combine echo that a lot of teams were disappointed in his interview, with him even telling Les Snead of the Rams that he was nervous). I personally don't think it's a big deal, but he's going to be facing grown-ass men that want to kick his ass mentally and physically -- is he strong enough to handle that? Is our defense full of enough good dudes to have his back / build him up?

It was with McPhee. Not sure if we have a leader on our defense right now. Maybe Hicks?

[mmmc_35]

In some ways, that's a weird thing to look down at. "He was Nervous", during the biggest interview of his life.

I get why that is a worry. If true, anxiety, and mental make y up are worries. It's clearly not normal or worse then normal.

However it could mean he really wants it, and will work his Ass off. I know the top level athletes all have top level egos. He was the big fish in a small pond, he is in the ocean surrounded by big fish. I hope it works out for him.

[Mikefive]

http://draftbreakdown.com/2017/11/18/ma ... tate-2017/

Ok, so I watched a couple complete games.

Guys a wrecking ball..I mean..WRECKING BALL.

He plays a little wild at times and definitely stays a little too upright, but man he's strong and hard to block one on one.

He's a bit of a project, I just don't know if I could take him at 8

Two words jumped out at me when I watched that video. Texas State. Yes, he was a "wrecking ball". But I'd need to see him play against more potential NFL players before I'd draft him in R1.

Here is Davenport in 2016 against Texas A & M, ranked #20 in the country at the time.

Great discipline showed on a reverse...

REVERSE

Powerful punch incapacitates the RT, then gets a hit on the QB...

PUNCH

Really nice job of shedding the block to catch the RB...

SHED

Drives the TE right into the running lane...

LANE

Great catch up speed to tackle the QB, saves a big gain...

CLOSING SPEED

Manhandles the OT and gets the sack...

SACK

Tackled by the OT, drawing a holding penalty..

HOLDING

Also used in coverage for 7 snaps...

COVERAGE

Texas A & M starts double teaming him after halftime...

DOUBLE TEAM

3rd down and 11, and most edge rushers are going to sell out to get to the QB. Instead, Davenport reads this play perfectly. Great maturity...

READ

Puts an incredible move on the blocker, causing him to whiff completely. Then he sheds another block on his way to the RB...

FAKE

Makes the RT his bitch on this play, driving him back 5 yards...

BULL RUSH

Run away from Davenport, but he still catches the RB from the backside...

BACKSIDE

Well played. My view is moving.

[G08]

Davenport is a completely different animal. Speed to power/bull rush is his best move. Question is, does he have a counter and how will that work against NFL talent? This isn't Conference USA anymore, ya know?

[EricTighe]

Couldn't you if you wanted to make a case for every player in the first round if you go looking for all that was good? I know he has some moments but as of right now and even after the senior bowl the scouts came away with a 2 to 3 year window for this kid to start showing dividends.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/ ... id=2559817" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://draftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile ... &genpos=DE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/new ... potential/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.giants.com/videos/videos/Mik ... 6ef47fa115" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some good stuff and some not good but at least it shows more than one side.

[G08]

^ Of course, none of these dudes are polished or finished products. It's all about projection at this point. Edmunds, IMO, has the highest ceiling. Davenport, IMO, has the greatest chance to bust. Landry immediately offers you an elite skill-set with his speed rush and ability to bend, but he might have the lowest ceiling because he might *only* be a pass-rush specialist.

[Adipost]

If you haven’t done so yet, I urge you all to read this article by former NFL defensive lineman Stephen White. It’s what put me over the top on wanting Davenport. He goes over the good and the bad with several GIF examples. Great read and breakdown.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/20/17089168/2018-nfl-draft-marcus-davenport-breakdown-scouting-report

[EricTighe]

He also stated Vea is the best D-lineman in the draft period.

Problem is I watched a ton of Washington games (I know 4 kids that go there on the football team) and he didn't stand out as much as he should have. When watching Washington State Hercules stood out on almost every damn play(just not sure playing DT in college then moving elsewhere always pans out. Even though Teddy Bruski had a nice career). When watching Alabama Da'Ron Payne was the guy at the end of the game you went WOW. When watching Goergia tell me the only thing you didn't think of after the game was Roquan Smith. If you are a college football nerd like me then you probably watch UCF play a few time and remembered Griffen stood out for what he did not what he was missing.

[cblaz11]

If you haven’t done so yet, I urge you all to read this article by former NFL defensive lineman Stephen White. It’s what put me over the top on wanting Davenport. He goes over the good and the bad with several GIF examples. Great read and breakdown.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/20/17089168/2018-nfl-draft-marcus-davenport-breakdown-scouting-report

Great post...thanks for sharing. He's got elite size...and plays like a beast. That being said, at times he looks really slow. Overall, I wouldn't hate him as long as they feel he has the mental makeup to be successful. One thing Pace has done a great job of judging.

[cblaz11]

I'm warming up to him at 8..He's what some people hope Edmunds could be.

[EricTighe]

Stats
Bradley Chubb- https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... ubb-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Marcus Davenport- https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... ort-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Harold Landry- https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... dry-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hercules Mata'afa- https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... afa-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
Shaquem Griffin- https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... fin-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Workout numbers
Bradley Chubb- https://www.nfl.com/prospects/bradley-c ... 46dbbd3505" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Marcus Davenport- https://www.nfl.com/prospects/marcus-da ... 9cd314cad6" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Harold Landry- https://www.nfl.com/prospects/harold-la ... 9f5c1b4e99" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hercules Mata'afa- https://www.nfl.com/prospects/hercules- ... 5fb43c6d11" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Shaquem Grifiin= https://www.nfl.com/prospects/shaquem-g ... 35eb2e3419" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

oops almost forgot lets compare to one of the most prolific 3-4 OLB in the game today and one of the greatest prospects.

Stats
Clay Mathews jr.- https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... ews-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jadeveon Clowney- https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... ney-1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

work out numbers
Clay Mathews jr.- http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cla ... s?id=80431" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jadeveon Clowney- http://www.nfl.com/draft/2014/profiles/ ... id=2543456" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;