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Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:45 pm
by Adipost
wab wrote:He’s a terrible fit for the Bears defense but he’s an exciting prospect.
Why’s that?
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:48 pm
by wab
Has there been a successful 6’7 outside linebacker?
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:00 am
by DaSuperfan
I like Davenport but I still prefer Harold Landry to Davenport IMO.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:24 am
by The Marshall Plan
I'm always skeptical about players that play against low grade talent and amass big stats. Then everybody ohhhhs and ahhhhhhs over what exactly? But it looks good on YouTube.
Why did no major program pick him up?
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:36 am
by malk
wab wrote:He’s a terrible fit for the Bears defense but he’s an exciting prospect.
I saw him projected to be a DE in a 4-3 (I think). Why a terrible fit for as an OLB for us though?
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:59 am
by wab
malk wrote:wab wrote:He’s a terrible fit for the Bears defense but he’s an exciting prospect.
I saw him projected to be a DE in a 4-3 (I think). Why a terrible fit for as an OLB for us though?
Unless you are going to bulk him up to play end, he's probably too tall to play OLB. There aren't many (any?) 6'7 outside linebackers. He's gotta be able to cover, turn his hips and run, use his arms right...Same reason you don't see many guards over 6'5, sometimes all that length works against you.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:10 am
by G08
wab wrote:Has there been a successful 6’7 outside linebacker?
Julius Peppers?
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:21 am
by Adipost
G08 wrote:wab wrote:Has there been a successful 6’7 outside linebacker?
Julius Peppers?
Didn’t Mario Williams play some OLB?
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:51 am
by G08
I want an elite pass rush, I don't care how it happens. Fangio is a freaking wizard with coverages on the back end... if you can get him pressure with 4 rushers, it's game over for the offense.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:41 am
by crueltyabc
Find someone who looks at you the way G08 looks at situational pass rushers
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:53 am
by G08
Davenport at the Senior Bowl:
6057
259 lbs
34" arms
81.25" wingspan
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:25 pm
by wab
6'5 makes me feel better should he make the transition to LB.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:36 pm
by G08
I'm itching to see his dash/cone. If he can go sub 7 in the cone I'll probably jizz in my pants.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:20 pm
by wab
I still like Edmunds/Landry as a pure 3-4 OLB. Davenport is certainly intriguing given the Bears spend so much time in sub packages.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:36 pm
by G08
wab wrote:I still like Edmunds/Landry as a pure 3-4 OLB. Davenport is certainly intriguing given the Bears spend so much time in sub packages.
I like what they can offer in terms of pass rush and coverage, but I worry having two dudes that barely touch 250 lbs on the edge at the same time. I'd like at least one with some thump to them (McPhee, Ware, etc).
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:43 pm
by G08
Matt Bowen wrote:UTSA DE Marcus Davenport (6-foot-6, 259 pounds) has already shown flashes of his power at the Senior Bowl workouts, both during individual drills and one-on-one pass rush. Davenport's technique is still raw on film, but he has natural strength at the point of attack and he comes off the ball with speed.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:46 pm
by Adipost
Back in 2005, I watched this kid from Troy play defensive end and I was fascinated by him," Mayock said of Ware. "When we got to the Senior Bowl I followed this kid to every drill. I came away going 'wow.' I get the same tingle watching (Davenport's) tape."
Mayock said Ware was a "natural edge rusher, a kid with toughness and physicality in the run game. He ended up going No. 11 to the Dallas Cowboys."
Davenport, Mayock said, could go that high in the draft that is scheduled to be held, ironically, April 26-28 at the home of the Cowboys, AT&T Stadium in Arlington.
"He's got natural edge skill. He's got physicality, toughness and a great motor," Mayock said of Davenport. "If things turnout the way I think they will, top 11 is not out of the question for Marcus Davenport." — Mike Mayock today
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:18 pm
by Boris13c
of all the folks out there with opinions on these guys, I trust Mayock the most ... so if he thinks Davenport is all that, I have no problem accepting that as information to utilize
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:05 pm
by G08
Kid is raw so if we draft him Fangio and Friends will have their work cut out for them.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:57 pm
by Adipost
Thursday's practice was the coming out party for UTSA DE Marcus Davenport. The South team couldn't block him. I thought he was thinking a little bit too much and struggling to get off the ball earlier in the week, but he got after it on Thursday. He was all over the place. He's not a finished product yet, but he finally showed what he's capable of, which was good to see. — Daniel Jeremiah
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:53 am
by G08
He's been awesome standing up, not so much in a 3 point stance.
Can't wait to see him Saturday afternoon!
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:41 am
by Adipost
G08 wrote:He's been awesome standing up, not so much in a 3 point stance.
Can't wait to see him Saturday afternoon!
That’s what he was at UTSA, a stand up OLB.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:34 am
by BamaBear09
G08 wrote:Davenport at the Senior Bowl:
6057
259 lbs
34" arms
81.25" wingspan
He looked good in what I saw of him at the Senior bowl... he's also very similar to a guy who played very well in a Fangio coached defense...
6045
263 lbs
35 3/8" arms
83.875" wingspan
Those, of course, are measurements of Aldon Smith at the 2011 combine...
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:59 am
by cblaz11
I was a big fan of Davenport, but I'm starting to sour on him in the 1st. He has raw talent, but he plays very upright. Fangio loves his OLBs to be able to get under the pads and I'm not sure this guy has shown that ability.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:38 am
by DaSuperfan
McCblaz wrote:I was a big fan of Davenport, but I'm starting to sour on him in the 1st. He has raw talent, but he plays very upright. Fangio loves his OLBs to be able to get under the pads and I'm not sure this guy has shown that ability.
Which is why Harold Landry is a better fit IMO.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:25 am
by The Marshall Plan
BamaBear09 wrote:G08 wrote:Davenport at the Senior Bowl:
6057
259 lbs
34" arms
81.25" wingspan
He looked good in what I saw of him at the Senior bowl... he's also very similar to a guy who played very well in a Fangio coached defense...
6045
263 lbs
35 3/8" arms
83.875" wingspan
Those, of course, are measurements of Aldon Smith at the 2011 combine...
I'm not suggesting we draft Davenport at 8, but you bring up a great point. If anybody can turn his raw talent into something productive its Fangio.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:12 am
by cblaz11
DaSuperfan wrote:McCblaz wrote:I was a big fan of Davenport, but I'm starting to sour on him in the 1st. He has raw talent, but he plays very upright. Fangio loves his OLBs to be able to get under the pads and I'm not sure this guy has shown that ability.
Which is why Harold Landry is a better fit IMO.
I always like looking at guys who were once considered top prospects and fell and Landry fits that bill. The guy has the explosion that a lot of edge rushers in this draft lack, so I'm good with him in the 2nd.
A guy I've been all over on another board, Lorenzo Carter from Georgia. He could be had right in the 2nd or later...kids a beast. Watch his game against ND and you will come away loving him.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:56 am
by wab
There's a lot of "pretty good" edge rushers in this draft, so it won't surprise me to see a lot of guys start to climb the board when the combine rolls around.
I've already talked about Edmunds, and we've obviously talked about Davenport and Landry...but in addition to Carter and the others that we've mentioned...look for these guys to climb into late first early second round consideration:
Jaylon Ferguson, LA Tech
Justin Lawler, Southern Methodist
Marcell Frazier, Missouri
Chad Thomas, Miami (FL)
Dorance Armstrong, Kansas
In no particular order.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:16 am
by mmmc_35
Thomas is an interesting one. Physically impressive but missing something.
Re: Marcus Davenport OMFG!!!
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:38 am
by wab
mmmc_35 wrote:Thomas is an interesting one. Physically impressive but missing something.
Right? I don't know what it is, but for some reason he's not quite the sum of his parts.