wab wrote:Considering the Bears spend 70% of their time in sub packages, Chubb would be fine. I just don't think he's got the lateral agility or overall athleticism to play OLB.
He reminds me a lot of Chris Long/Joey Bosa.
So is that how you would play him? Would you not start him and just bring him in in nickel? That seems crazy for a top 10 pick, doesn't it? Or start him at 5T and move him around in passing situations? In college they moved him inside some on passing downs.
I'm trying to think this through.
Personally, I wouldn't draft him. Not because he isn't good, I just don't think he's a great fit for the Bears overall.
But for argument's sake, if the Bears did draft him, I think they'd ideally play him like a combo of McPhee and Young. Stand him up in the base defense and on 1st and 2nd downs like they do with McPhee, and drop him to DE on 3rd downs, sub packages, and obvious passing downs like they do with Young.
I just think the Bears have a similar guy already in Bullard and need a better pure LB/Pass rusher.
You're convincing me. I don't know. Part of me says that Fangio would know what to do with the guy. Another part says that some 4-3 team (hopefully more than one) will be justifiably in love with the guy and willing to trade up (bidding war?) for him.
Mikefive's theory: The only time you KNOW that a sports team player, coach or management member is being 100% honest is when they're NOT reciting "the company line".
Chubb is a very similar player to Pernell McPhee. Physically they compare well:
McPhee (when drafted): 6' 2.5"/ 274 lbs / 4.97 40 time
Chubb (pre-combine): 6'4" / 275 lbs / good but not great speed
Both are noted by scouts to have very long arms and great tenacity.
I think Chubb will fit our system just fine. Unfortunately, I have yet to see a mock draft where he falls to #8. Of course, at this time last year Jonathan Allen was a can't miss top 3 prospect too.
P.S. - McPhee was graded as a mid-round pick due to being very limited in understanding the game. PFW said it would take several years to get him up to speed and reach his potential. They were right.
I wouldn't hate the pick, because you are replacing two guys with one, but you aren't going to get out of him what you would in a 4-3. That's why I draw the Bosa and Long comparisons. He was super stiff as an OLB, then they moved to a 4-3 and he flourished.
When Long was in the draft, the prevailing thought was that he was the best fit as a 4-3 DE, but should he fall to the Jets at 6, they could probably make it work with him at OLB.
I just think it's a square peg/round hole situation. Chubb is talented enough to make it work, but I don't think his potential would be maximized.
I'm sticking with Harold Landry as an edge rusher that would be a great complement to Floyd. I think Davenport is too raw to take at 8 and Edmunds to me is a 4-3 OLB.
I also think Chubb is long gone before 8, I have him going at 3 to Indy.
DaSuperfan wrote:I'm sticking with Harold Landry as an edge rusher that would be a great complement to Floyd. I think Davenport is too raw to take at 8 and Edmunds to me is a 4-3 OLB.
I also think Chubb is long gone before 8, I have him going at 3 to Indy.
DaSuperfan wrote:I'm sticking with Harold Landry as an edge rusher that would be a great complement to Floyd. I think Davenport is too raw to take at 8 and Edmunds to me is a 4-3 OLB.
I also think Chubb is long gone before 8, I have him going at 3 to Indy.
Edmunds is like 6’5 260.
Interesting, I didn't know was THAT big. I thought I saw somewhere that he was 235 pounds and around 6'3. But nowI see he's listed at 6'5 250. The problem I have with Edmunds is that we don't know how he'll fare as a 3-4 OLB, rushing the QB off the edge since he wasn't asked to do that in college. I see Edmunds as an inside 3-4 ILB more than a pass rushing 3-4 OLB, but maybe that's just me.
As a pure pass rusher I still like Landry over Edmunds in a 3-4. Landry has the unique ability to bend and dip under Tackles with speed off the edge. He also has a nice counter inside move which he uses effectively. Hes also decent against the run.
I think Edmunds will be fine as a pass rusher. Ideally you could line him up in numerous positions. Athletically the kid is a freak. He has the ability to be pretty damn good.
