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I'm legit starting to wonder if Nelson even makes it out of the top 5. League types are already calling him the best offensive lineman (not just guard, but lineman) they've ever scouted. Ever.

BUT... they said that about Robert Gallery once too.
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Robert Gallery!!!!

man, i blame the raiders for that one. he had 3 different head coaches his first four years, and four different offensive line coaches. i will go to my grave believing the raiders ruined him.
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3 out of 3 of Pace's first round picks have been high athletic upside picks.

2 out o 3 of Pace's second round picks have been solid contributors to one of the lines.

Should history be our guide, we won't be drafting Nelson with the #8.
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wab wrote:I'm legit starting to wonder if Nelson even makes it out of the top 5. League types are already calling him the best offensive lineman (not just guard, but lineman) they've ever scouted. Ever.

BUT... they said that about Robert Gallery once too.
I don't think he'll be there at #8, but I guess we'll see how the rest of the process plays out leading up to the draft.

The hype around Nelson only seems to be growing.
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Ummm..... I'd draft Quenton Nelson to play OT with these fucking numbers!

8. #NotreDame G Quenton Nelson
Height: 6-5
Weight: 325
Hand: 10 3/8
Arm: 33 6/8
Wingspan: 82 5/8
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G08 wrote:Ummm..... I'd draft Quenton Nelson to play OT with these fucking numbers!

8. #NotreDame G Quenton Nelson
Height: 6-5
Weight: 325
Hand: 10 3/8
Arm: 33 6/8
Wingspan: 82 5/8
I told you man. Unfortunately he won't make it out of the top 5 at this point.
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G08 wrote:Ummm..... I'd draft Quenton Nelson to play OT with these fucking numbers!

8. #NotreDame G Quenton Nelson
Height: 6-5
Weight: 325
Hand: 10 3/8
Arm: 33 6/8
Wingspan: 82 5/8
Are those his official measurements? What’s the minimum arm length for an OT? 33?
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G08 wrote:Ummm..... I'd draft Quenton Nelson to play OT with these fucking numbers!

8. #NotreDame G Quenton Nelson
Height: 6-5
Weight: 325
Hand: 10 3/8
Arm: 33 6/8
Wingspan: 82 5/8
Are those his official measurements? What’s the minimum arm length for an OT? 33?
Pulled from the combine today, yes.

It varies but 33" for me is the absolute minimum for an OT. This dude is around 34" so I'm more than fine with it. Curious to see his lateral agility.
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wab wrote:I'm legit starting to wonder if Nelson even makes it out of the top 5. League types are already calling him the best offensive lineman (not just guard, but lineman) they've ever scouted. Ever.

BUT... they said that about Robert Gallery once too.

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Gallery in college was a beast. He made Erasmus James look bad, and James was good.
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I still see QN as a guard but it doesn't matter becuase the Quenton Nelson debate is reminding me of Leonard Williams debate. We spent all off-season arguing the value of an inside player only to have him drafted in front of us anyway
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Nelson just blasted through 35 reps at the combine. His legend is growing.
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wab wrote:Nelson just blasted through 35 reps at the combine. His legend is growing.

Conversely, human-mountain Orlando Brown could only lift 14.
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wab wrote:Nelson just blasted through 35 reps at the combine. His legend is growing.
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Orlando Brown just ran a 5.86 after putting up 14 reps yesterday. What a terrible showing for the Sooner.
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Also looked like garbage in the drills. Why did he agree to go to the combine?
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Brian O'Neill (my #1 OT) just ran a freaking 4.78 40. And 22 reps on the bench isn't shabby.


I'm also keeping an eye on Wyatt Teller as a guy the Bears should look at as a potential/future replacement for Sitton.
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Kolton Miller is moving himself up into the teens as well.
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crueltyabc wrote:Also looked like garbage in the drills. Why did he agree to go to the combine?
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Joe Noteboom (one of "my guys") has looked pretty good. I thought he could be a Day 3 steal. He's showing his athleticism off, which might not see him get there.
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crueltyabc wrote:Also looked like garbage in the drills. Why did he agree to go to the combine?
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He did pretty well on height and weight, though :D
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crueltyabc wrote:Also looked like garbage in the drills. Why did he agree to go to the combine?

Good question. I guess he doesn't expect the numbers won't be any better at the pro day. Might as well get them out there now.

I don't care how big you are, or naturally strong, you still need to know where the fucking weight room is. Brown tests like a guy who never found it in all his time at OUsucks.
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crueltyabc wrote:Also looked like garbage in the drills. Why did he agree to go to the combine?

Good question. I guess he doesn't expect the numbers won't be any better at the pro day. Might as well get them out there now.

I don't care how big you are, or naturally strong, you still need to know where the fucking weight room is. Brown tests like a guy who never found it in all his time at OUsucks.
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The guard class this year is sick. Maybe the drafts best position,
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1. Nelson- Talked him to death.
2. Braden Smith (Auburn)- Maybe the drafts best pulling and trapping. Did I mention he is strong as hell. His Coach says he is the best football player he has ever coached(take it for what it is worth).
3. Hernandez- Was in the talking before the season as a third or fourth rounder, But the display he put on at the Senior bowl was crazy. He looked like a man amongst boyz,
4. Austin Corbett- Played LT at Nevada and held his own for the last three years, held is own against Myles Garret when they played.
5. Wyatt Teller VT- Good all around blocker.

As good as this list is the one problem is they will all be gone before the third round. Not that we have one anyway. So we get one in the first or the second. My prefrence is to get
1st round. Edmunds if gone then take Payne
2nd round. Braden Smith or Hernandez one of them should still be there,
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EricTighe wrote:The guard class this year is sick. Maybe the drafts best position,
My list
1. Nelson- Talked him to death.
2. Braden Smith (Auburn)- Maybe the drafts best pulling and trapping. Did I mention he is strong as hell. His Coach says he is the best football player he has ever coached(take it for what it is worth).
3. Hernandez- Was in the talking before the season as a third or fourth rounder, But the display he put on at the Senior bowl was crazy. He looked like a man amongst boyz,
4. Austin Corbett- Played LT at Nevada and held his own for the last three years, held is own against Myles Garret when they played.
5. Wyatt Teller VT- Good all around blocker.

As good as this list is the one problem is they will all be gone before the third round. Not that we have one anyway. So we get one in the first or the second. My prefrence is to get
1st round. Edmunds if gone then take Payne
2nd round. Braden Smith or Hernandez one of them should still be there,
You forgot to mention Isaiah Wynn, who clearly looked like one of the best Guards at the Senior Bowl. Extremely sound technically, athletic and strong at the point of attack.
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More and more I think we take our best rated interior OL in round 2. Sign me up for Edmunds in the 1st and a lineman in round 2.
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I'm a Wyatt Teller fan in r4.
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G08 wrote:More and more I think we take our best rated interior OL in round 2. Sign me up for Edmunds in the 1st and a lineman in round 2.
Yeah I think that makes sense with how the roster is shaped.
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Edmunds or Landry in round 1, round 2 can even be an OT that we convert to OG if we like... should be a lot of names there and I wouldn't be surprised to see Pace pull his patented trade-down to acquire a low third or high fourth.

The only player for me that could throw a wrench into those plans is Minkah Fitzpatrick. I'm not sure how you leave that dude on the board... starting nickel day 1 and he can kick outside if anyone gets hurt or he can take over if we move on from Fuller in a couple years.
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Now that Compton has signed with the Vikings I believe it is pretty clear the Bears go OL 1 or 2 in the draft. Nelson if he is there, the ND OT if they trade back in 1, or one of the guards in 2.
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