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Interesting.

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I’m in NOLA now and was just talking to people about drafting Drew’s replacement this year. They’re still betting on 2-3 more years with drew starting. I tend to agree cuz he doesn’t get hit often and mostly gets by on his wits but some team with an aging vet should be interested in moving up.


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I mean, I guess? The McGlinchy pick seems a little lazy unless the Bears are planning on cutting Massie. And at 6'8 he's not playing guard. But then he has them taking a guard in the second?

I like the Turay and Phillips picks. Holmes seems like a weird fit. I know they've spent time with Cain but unless they lose Meredith, I don't know if I see them taking a WR.
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We trade back to take a guy who isn't in our top 3 needs list because he played for our new OL coach? And we trade back from 8 to 27 for a low 3rd rounder this year? Of course, they could also throw in future picks, but those would have to be dramatic to make such a move as in a 2018 R1 and R2 and perhaps more. And for a team with a new coach installing a new system on at least one side of the ball, that kind of deal is rather unlikely.

Lazy is definitely the right word.
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I hated that mock draft. For a lot of reasons. OL in each of the first two rounds and then some convoluted trade with the Saints. No thanks.
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Mikefive wrote:We trade back to take a guy who isn't in our top 3 needs list because he played for our new OL coach? And we trade back from 8 to 27 for a low 3rd rounder this year? Of course, they could also throw in future picks, but those would have to be dramatic to make such a move as in a 2018 R1 and R2 and perhaps more. And for a team with a new coach installing a new system on at least one side of the ball, that kind of deal is rather unlikely.

Lazy is definitely the right word.
In this scenario we would be getting this:

2018: R1.27
2018: R3.91
2019: R1

We'd be getting an extra 1st next year (albeit probably a late 1st) as well. It's really not all that different of a deal than what KC did to jump up to 10 to grab Mahomes from 27 last year. Buffalo swapped R1's, got an R3 and a 2018 R1.

The problem I have with this mock, is that we miss out on any of the top edge rusher prospects in R1 and take McGlinchey - who to me, is a slightly above average RT prospect tbh. Love the Wynn pick in R2 and hate the Cain pick in R4. Don't know much about the Ohio State kid in R3, I'll be honest.
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crueltyabc wrote:I’m in NOLA now and was just talking to people about drafting Drew’s replacement this year. They’re still betting on 2-3 more years with drew starting. I tend to agree cuz he doesn’t get hit often and mostly gets by on his wits but some team with an aging vet should be interested in moving up.


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I dont really want to get too caught up on one stupid thing, but drew's contract is massive for the next two years. next year i would 100% buy into the idea of them moving up for a guy they want to groom.

But trading a decent amount of draft capital to take a guy who wont play for two years just doesnt make any sense.
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I'd rather take the projected trade with Buffalo... 8 for 12 and 65:

Rd. 1 @12 - Minkah, Ward, Vea, Landry, Davenport... Take your pick.
Rd. 2 - Wynn
Rd. 3 @65 - Da'Shawn Hand still available, Sam Hubbard, Tarvarus McFadden, Arden Key, Anthony Miller
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Mikefive wrote:We trade back to take a guy who isn't in our top 3 needs list because he played for our new OL coach? And we trade back from 8 to 27 for a low 3rd rounder this year? Of course, they could also throw in future picks, but those would have to be dramatic to make such a move as in a 2018 R1 and R2 and perhaps more. And for a team with a new coach installing a new system on at least one side of the ball, that kind of deal is rather unlikely.

Lazy is definitely the right word.
I agree. First thing that came to my mind was, “we swap 8 for 27 to get a late 3rd rd? Yeah, right”.
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RustyTrubisky wrote:
crueltyabc wrote:I’m in NOLA now and was just talking to people about drafting Drew’s replacement this year. They’re still betting on 2-3 more years with drew starting. I tend to agree cuz he doesn’t get hit often and mostly gets by on his wits but some team with an aging vet should be interested in moving up.
I dont really want to get too caught up on one stupid thing, but drew's contract is massive for the next two years. next year i would 100% buy into the idea of them moving up for a guy they want to groom.

But trading a decent amount of draft capital to take a guy who wont play for two years just doesnt make any sense.
Hmm I was trying to say that I don't see the Saints moving down but some other team with an aging vet (Cardinals, Bengals) might do it. The Saints should definitely be faithful to their board. If there's a good QB available when they draft at 27, I think they should take him and have him sit. Lots of the Saints stars are young so it'd be a shame if they wasted years trying to find a QB after Drew retires. They'll probably wait a year, but I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't.
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crueltyabc wrote:
Hmm I was trying to say that I don't see the Saints moving down but some other team with an aging vet (Cardinals, Bengals) might do it. The Saints should definitely be faithful to their board. If there's a good QB available when they draft at 27, I think they should take him and have him sit. Lots of the Saints stars are young so it'd be a shame if they wasted years trying to find a QB after Drew retires. They'll probably wait a year, but I wouldn't be shocked if they didn't.

haha, yeah sorry, i agree with everything you said and was disagreeing with the premise of this mock. :)
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Don't know the trade value chart thing..... but think I want more than a late 3rd for that kind of jump....

If they did something like that, I would want their 2nd rounder even if we had to throw back a 4th...
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It took a 3rd pick to jump one spot last year.
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46Blitz wrote:Don't know the trade value chart thing..... but think I want more than a late 3rd for that kind of jump....

If they did something like that, I would want their 2nd rounder even if we had to throw back a 4th...
The trade chart can screw off. If we drop to the Saints pick I’m expecting at a minimum their third this year and probably their first next year.

I’d expect a third to drop down to about the Cardinals pick.
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If people didn't see my post before, this is what the trade is:

2018: R1.27
2018: R3.91
2019: R1

We would be getting a 1st next year as well.
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