my life working in a real life Dilbert environment :
manager assembles a group of us to go over a "new and exciting project" (which we always mentally translate to "great - here we go again") ... says he chose us because we have shown how well we can work together ... says he will e-mail us the overall project portfolio, with separate e-mails for specific items of priority ... says he'll be gone for a couple of weeks so that should give us time to have all our assessments done so we can begin ordering things when he gets back
he doesn't send the files to us until like 8:30 at night, which of course we don't see until the next day (after he has left on his trip)
the files are CAC badge and password protected
none of us were given the password he assigned
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No pay cut, but severely hurts my chances to move up to get my own store at some point. The shining light is every employee doesn't understand the demotion and that makes me feel like they agree that it was a bs demotion. Also I didn't have that drink.mmmc_35 wrote:Don't tie one on to tight.bearsfaninaz wrote:Got demoted today. So might have a drink for first time in 20+ years
Sucks though, big party cut?
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yesmmmc_35 wrote:Gov work boris?
ever since CAC badge verification has been implemented, most things have gone pretty smooth ... the problem is the option to add a password with the CAC verification is still there, and those that choose to do that are just very stupid about itmmmc_35 wrote:We have our IT guys do that at every update. New program/software done on Friday as they leave for vacation. Everyone's fucked.
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I have been very busy at my work training for a new position. I like the job but in to the 3rd month of training of 4 months is getting long. As a trainee you do more, and end up doing a lot of paper work on your own time.
So devoting extra time during training has made the wife do less at home. Weird combo but it's becoming a fucking grind. It has made me post less on here which isn't bad because the Bears are a black hole of heart break .
So devoting extra time during training has made the wife do less at home. Weird combo but it's becoming a fucking grind. It has made me post less on here which isn't bad because the Bears are a black hole of heart break .
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good news for anyone here who:
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-hates their job
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My supervisor has started to get on my ass entirely too much. I don't even get in my office, don't even get my fucking coat and hat off before she is meeting me at the secretary's desk. she is starting to tell me what the hell I need to do when I have not even got comfortable yet. Maybe she is sensing my hate for the job and how my performance is suffering. She needs to realize she is not helping.
And this working the week after Christmas sucks!!!! I have had this week off for at least the past 12 years. My co-worker (with more seniority) changed up on me this year and took this week.
And this working the week after Christmas sucks!!!! I have had this week off for at least the past 12 years. My co-worker (with more seniority) changed up on me this year and took this week.
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I would politely tell her that you want to hear every word she says, but you just walked into the building and need to put your things down so you can really focus on what she's trying to communicate (it's bullshit but they eat that shit up)Otis Day wrote:My supervisor has started to get on my ass entirely too much. I don't even get in my office, don't even get my fucking coat and hat off before she is meeting me at the secretary's desk. she is starting to tell me what the hell I need to do when I have not even got comfortable yet. Maybe she is sensing my hate for the job and how my performance is suffering. She needs to realize she is not helping.
And this working the week after Christmas sucks!!!! I have had this week off for at least the past 12 years. My co-worker (with more seniority) changed up on me this year and took this week.
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This is sound advice.G08 wrote:I would politely tell her that you want to hear every word she says, but you just walked into the building and need to put your things down so you can really focus on what she's trying to communicate (it's bullshit but they eat that shit up)Otis Day wrote:My supervisor has started to get on my ass entirely too much. I don't even get in my office, don't even get my fucking coat and hat off before she is meeting me at the secretary's desk. she is starting to tell me what the hell I need to do when I have not even got comfortable yet. Maybe she is sensing my hate for the job and how my performance is suffering. She needs to realize she is not helping.
And this working the week after Christmas sucks!!!! I have had this week off for at least the past 12 years. My co-worker (with more seniority) changed up on me this year and took this week.
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You know it is bad when a kid (16) and his mother come in and they are both trashed!! The kid could barely stay awake (he is not narcoleptic) and he couldn't keep the drug test swab in his mouth too easily. Both were slurring their words. Mom is making all kinds of excuses as to why shit doesn't get done (substance abuse eval, enrolling her kid in school). What makes matters worse, the fucking state's atty's office doesn't do shit.
This kid has no chance. He has already did a short stint in juvey prison. It is fucked up. The mom bounces from drug house to drug house as well.
Gonna be a long 10 yrs.
This kid has no chance. He has already did a short stint in juvey prison. It is fucked up. The mom bounces from drug house to drug house as well.
Gonna be a long 10 yrs.
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This made me laugh at your pain.Otis Day wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:44 pm You know it is bad when a kid (16) and his mother come in and they are both trashed!! The kid could barely stay awake (he is not narcoleptic) and he couldn't keep the drug test swab in his mouth too easily. Both were slurring their words. Mom is making all kinds of excuses as to why shit doesn't get done (substance abuse eval, enrolling her kid in school). What makes matters worse, the fucking state's atty's office doesn't do shit.
This kid has no chance. He has already did a short stint in juvey prison. It is fucked up. The mom bounces from drug house to drug house as well.
Gonna be a long 10 yrs.
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What adds to it, dealing with a lazy, uneducated assistant state's attorney, AGAIN!! That office goes thru assistants like I go thru butter. All the new, young hires are assigned to juvenile court. Most have just graduated or have done no criminal law at all. They do not get adequately trained and they are just put out there to figure out themselves. In 15 years in my current county, I have had to deal with 16 different state's attys.
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That's similar here. Last time I had court the DA was 12 years old. She couldn't prove the guy driving the car he crashed on video, was found passed out behind the wheel, fought with us while in the car, with multiple other felonies, was operating the vehicle.
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I'm having fun remaining professional with customers that show me other company's free professional drawings, for me to base a quote off of; The lady that needs a downspout drain, but wants to run it uphill, and argues with me that it will work; The guy that called me drunk to set up his appointment...full on slurring can barely understand him...definitely got him to call back and then had him text me his name and address; and the 3 guys that already in 1 week tell me if I take X amount off I can have the job, otherwise the "other guy" gets it...I almost always tell them give it to the other guy. Sold 2 of those jobs. Definitely getting a deposit from them though.
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This has become a good outlet for me to bitch about work. I don't like talking work at home or off hrs, especially with my wife. I kind of like to have no shop talk at home.
The young, dumbass asst state's atty has struck again. A female client has been AWOL for approx. 1 year. She was found a few days ago in Chicago after stealing a car and wrecking said car into 2 other cars. After a short stint in a medical hospital she was transferred to a mental hospital. After being arrested the saw she had a warrant out of our county. We have been in contact with the mental hospital in Chicago and go a "police hold" on the girl.
The young dumbass SA was apprised of the situation. His idea for the matter, DISMISS ALL THE PTRS AND PENDING CASES AGAINST HER AND QUASH THE WARRANT!!!!!!!! WHY YOU ASK? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THE FUCKING PAPERWORK TO GET HER BACK HER OR DEAL WITH AN UNHAPPY SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WILL HAVE TO DRIVE 3 HRS TO GET HER!!!
This is what I have been having to deal with lately. Thank goodness this young dumbfuck is leaving in June.
The young, dumbass asst state's atty has struck again. A female client has been AWOL for approx. 1 year. She was found a few days ago in Chicago after stealing a car and wrecking said car into 2 other cars. After a short stint in a medical hospital she was transferred to a mental hospital. After being arrested the saw she had a warrant out of our county. We have been in contact with the mental hospital in Chicago and go a "police hold" on the girl.
The young dumbass SA was apprised of the situation. His idea for the matter, DISMISS ALL THE PTRS AND PENDING CASES AGAINST HER AND QUASH THE WARRANT!!!!!!!! WHY YOU ASK? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT TO DO THE FUCKING PAPERWORK TO GET HER BACK HER OR DEAL WITH AN UNHAPPY SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT WILL HAVE TO DRIVE 3 HRS TO GET HER!!!
This is what I have been having to deal with lately. Thank goodness this young dumbfuck is leaving in June.
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I know this doesn't fit the general theme of the posts here but I just thought I'd post it.
After graduating from high school, I had no idea what I wanted to do so I decided to start off by going to a community college for the first 2 years to figure that out while I got my gen eds out of they way.
The only thing I had to work with was that I had taken a programming class in high school and had loved it so I started on the computer science track. While I enjoyed all the coding classes, I fell flat on my face in the physics and chemistry classes and because I was young and stupid, instead of seeking help I took it as a sign that computer science wasn't for me.
I then spent a lot of time bouncing around different majors, most with an underlying theme of working with computers, until I finally found a track that was pure coding, no science. That kept me focused but as I got closer to finishing my associates degree, I began wondering if I would be able to find a job with it. I didn't know anyone in the industry and since this was in 2008, we were right in the middle of the recession which really showed a lot of people which jobs were actually "recession-proof".
In the end, I ended up making a complete 180. I had taken some accounting courses as pre-reqs for a certification in "Microcomputers in Business" and ended up have developing a great relationship with the professor of those courses. She really sold accounting as a career, saying that it was recession proof, paid well, you could do a lot of things with an accounting degree, etc. It was exactly the things I wanted to hear and as I really just wanted to move on with my life, I made just an objective decision to pursue that as a major.
I stayed laser-focused on that, got my associates in arts, transferred to a 4-year university, got my bachelors, got my masters, and went into public accounting. I was at the same firm up until last year when the pandemic really made me question my decision of career. I was lucky that there weren't really any layoffs in my group but a couple people left and it was way more stressful than past years. I ended up making it through all the deadlines but was completely spent. After 7 years, the career path had just led me away from the things I had actually liked and there wasn't really anything else to motivate me besides having to have a check to pay the bills. I wanted to create something unique, to work more with new technologies, and to ultimately make my own mark on the world that I could lack back to and say "I built that".
I ended up talking with my wife and said I wanted to give software engineering another shot because I knew it was something I would always regret if I didn't. She was 100% supportive and so I decided to take an introductory course to JavaScript and see if coding was as much fun as a I remembered it being all those years ago. For pretty much all of November I would work until 5:00, take a little break, and then code until 10 or 11.
I ended up having a blast so we made the decision to give it a try. I applied to and was accepted at a coding bootcamp which started in December but wasn't full-time so I was still able to work and really see if I wanted to continue with it. Again, it was a ton of fun so when the part-time portion ended and I had passed all the checkpoints to advance to the full-time portion, I put in my two weeks notice.
Fast forward to yesterday when I officially graduated from bootcamp. I learned a ton of stuff, built a lot of cool things, and in about a week or so I'm going to start applying for jobs.
So yeah, I guess this post is more of a I-didn't-like-my-job-anymore-so-I'm-trying-something-else post. haha
After graduating from high school, I had no idea what I wanted to do so I decided to start off by going to a community college for the first 2 years to figure that out while I got my gen eds out of they way.
The only thing I had to work with was that I had taken a programming class in high school and had loved it so I started on the computer science track. While I enjoyed all the coding classes, I fell flat on my face in the physics and chemistry classes and because I was young and stupid, instead of seeking help I took it as a sign that computer science wasn't for me.
I then spent a lot of time bouncing around different majors, most with an underlying theme of working with computers, until I finally found a track that was pure coding, no science. That kept me focused but as I got closer to finishing my associates degree, I began wondering if I would be able to find a job with it. I didn't know anyone in the industry and since this was in 2008, we were right in the middle of the recession which really showed a lot of people which jobs were actually "recession-proof".
In the end, I ended up making a complete 180. I had taken some accounting courses as pre-reqs for a certification in "Microcomputers in Business" and ended up have developing a great relationship with the professor of those courses. She really sold accounting as a career, saying that it was recession proof, paid well, you could do a lot of things with an accounting degree, etc. It was exactly the things I wanted to hear and as I really just wanted to move on with my life, I made just an objective decision to pursue that as a major.
I stayed laser-focused on that, got my associates in arts, transferred to a 4-year university, got my bachelors, got my masters, and went into public accounting. I was at the same firm up until last year when the pandemic really made me question my decision of career. I was lucky that there weren't really any layoffs in my group but a couple people left and it was way more stressful than past years. I ended up making it through all the deadlines but was completely spent. After 7 years, the career path had just led me away from the things I had actually liked and there wasn't really anything else to motivate me besides having to have a check to pay the bills. I wanted to create something unique, to work more with new technologies, and to ultimately make my own mark on the world that I could lack back to and say "I built that".
I ended up talking with my wife and said I wanted to give software engineering another shot because I knew it was something I would always regret if I didn't. She was 100% supportive and so I decided to take an introductory course to JavaScript and see if coding was as much fun as a I remembered it being all those years ago. For pretty much all of November I would work until 5:00, take a little break, and then code until 10 or 11.
I ended up having a blast so we made the decision to give it a try. I applied to and was accepted at a coding bootcamp which started in December but wasn't full-time so I was still able to work and really see if I wanted to continue with it. Again, it was a ton of fun so when the part-time portion ended and I had passed all the checkpoints to advance to the full-time portion, I put in my two weeks notice.
Fast forward to yesterday when I officially graduated from bootcamp. I learned a ton of stuff, built a lot of cool things, and in about a week or so I'm going to start applying for jobs.
So yeah, I guess this post is more of a I-didn't-like-my-job-anymore-so-I'm-trying-something-else post. haha
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Good for you man. So you are literally one of the people, "learn to code" wasnt some type of insult. In reality coding is one of those professions that are essentially economic proof if you are good at it.
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Good for you man. I am kind of jealous of that type of conviction. Having worked for the same company for so long, I find myself in a rut often. I have gotten to be a part of some really cool projects that invigorate me (I'm 100% positive you all have seen a lot of my work out in the world) but there's a lot of down time between those projects. I've also sort of transitioned into a little more of a pseudo-management role over the last several years, so I'm less involed in the day to day work...and that's just not as fun.
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Yeah, I know that's used in a disparaging context but I was really surprised by the diversity of people in my cohort. There were construction workers, doctors, scientists, people right out of high school, etc. Being almost 40, I was worried about the age aspect but was happy to see there were more than a few people my age and I wasn't even the oldest one; there was one woman who was 51, never coded a day in her life, but by the end of the cohort she was one of the strongest coders in my opinion.
And thanks to everyone else! They tell us the first job is always the most difficult to find and it can take up to 3-6 months but I only have savings left for 3-4 so I'm definitely stressing out. I feel pretty prepared though so I'll post an update on how the job search goes.
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Just keep applying, man. There's positions out there. I've found that listings on places like Monster/etc are often mediocre-to-scant in terms of being updated. You may have more luck going institution-by-institution and checking their careers page. I'm currently interviewing for another IT job myself, but more for use as a bargaining chip to get a raise at my current gig. I only found that opportunity because a few contacts notified my wife, and it was buried on their careers page.Xee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:38 amYeah, I know that's used in a disparaging context but I was really surprised by the diversity of people in my cohort. There were construction workers, doctors, scientists, people right out of high school, etc. Being almost 40, I was worried about the age aspect but was happy to see there were more than a few people my age and I wasn't even the oldest one; there was one woman who was 51, never coded a day in her life, but by the end of the cohort she was one of the strongest coders in my opinion.
And thanks to everyone else! They tell us the first job is always the most difficult to find and it can take up to 3-6 months but I only have savings left for 3-4 so I'm definitely stressing out. I feel pretty prepared though so I'll post an update on how the job search goes.
Don't give up, and don't despair. In the interim try to cultivate as many demonstrations of your ability as possible, archive them all, and update the resume religiously. Put together an online portfolio, even. Don't let idle hands beat you down while you wait for the email or phone call.
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I no longer hate my job because I no longer have to deal with it ... 2020 was my first full year as a retiree ... and I have no regrets leaving it behind me
I know that is different for many people ... some of my former co-workers have no intention of ever retiring, which I don't get ... I had almost 35 years in and felt I had done my duty ... I highly recommend it for everyone who is able to do so when they can rather than extending time in their working hell for a few extra annuity bucks
I retired as soon as I met the time in service and age requirements and left with a smile on my face ... still smiling
I know that is different for many people ... some of my former co-workers have no intention of ever retiring, which I don't get ... I had almost 35 years in and felt I had done my duty ... I highly recommend it for everyone who is able to do so when they can rather than extending time in their working hell for a few extra annuity bucks
I retired as soon as I met the time in service and age requirements and left with a smile on my face ... still smiling
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Congrats Boris!! Out of necessity (helping 3 kids through college), I have about 10 more yrs to go. It is the time of my life I should be getting out of debt, but unfortunately I am more in debt now than ever. Sucks that the kids come out of college so much debt as well. I will probably be in my late 60s before I can walk away from this shit.
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Oh yeah, I know it's just a numbers game. It seems it's pretty common to hit 300+ applications before you land something.UOK wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:48 am Just keep applying, man. There's positions out there. I've found that listings on places like Monster/etc are often mediocre-to-scant in terms of being updated. You may have more luck going institution-by-institution and checking their careers page. I'm currently interviewing for another IT job myself, but more for use as a bargaining chip to get a raise at my current gig. I only found that opportunity because a few contacts notified my wife, and it was buried on their careers page.
Don't give up, and don't despair. In the interim try to cultivate as many demonstrations of your ability as possible, archive them all, and update the resume religiously. Put together an online portfolio, even. Don't let idle hands beat you down while you wait for the email or phone call.
As for the job search, they gave us a lot of training and coaching on how to approach it. I previously logged in to my LinkedIn account maybe a few times a year when I was working but apparently that's where you'll find the majority of job postings and that's what recruiters use to find candidates. Because of this, along with resume reviews we had a few iterations of LinkedIn portfolio reviews as well where I learned a ton; I had no idea there was so much you need to do besides just list your previous work history.
Regarding filling the time while I'm looking, I've drew up a schedule over the weekend for myself and plan on "working" the same amount of hours as I did in bootcamp, practicing algorithms/data structures, working on side projects, networking, etc. Pretty much am making find a job a full-time job.
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My job has been reallyfucking ridiculous lately. We have a lot of bullshit going on in the world, but all that aside.
A boss put a lot of people in an extremely unsafe position. So he was chastised by a few of us on text messages. He was also told very directly in person about him being terrible. His stupidity could have got people killed. Plus hes really bad at his job in general. Dumb and incompetent are a bad combo.
Naturally us laughing about it later via text messages is the problem. Somehow our chat got to the administration. So he can fuck up but it's the line Joe's that will get fucked.
I love my actual job duties. The administration stressors though have me contemplating moving.
A boss put a lot of people in an extremely unsafe position. So he was chastised by a few of us on text messages. He was also told very directly in person about him being terrible. His stupidity could have got people killed. Plus hes really bad at his job in general. Dumb and incompetent are a bad combo.
Naturally us laughing about it later via text messages is the problem. Somehow our chat got to the administration. So he can fuck up but it's the line Joe's that will get fucked.
I love my actual job duties. The administration stressors though have me contemplating moving.
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Yeah unfortunately it's not uncommon. Most departments have the same administration problems. Its different from a lot of jobs. It's hard to explain without a novel. If you said your boss was a crayon eater would you expect days off?