2017 NFL Draft General Discussion

[Mikefive]

This Draft and off-season makes me think....

The build through post draft cuts will be in full effect. Granted there will be quite a few good deals of solid vets, but this team did not gain a single player in this draft that is ready to start or close to it.

Definitely. We have $22M in cap space available.

[Mr.Irrelevant]

This Draft and off-season makes me think....

The build through post draft cuts will be in full effect. Granted there will be quite a few good deals of solid vets, but this team did not gain a single player in this draft that is ready to start or close to it.

Definitely. We have $22M in cap space available.

A big chunk of that will go to the rookies - but our lack of Dline help through the draft makes me wonder if we're in the Sheldon Richardson sweepstakes.

[wab]

This Draft and off-season makes me think....

The build through post draft cuts will be in full effect. Granted there will be quite a few good deals of solid vets, but this team did not gain a single player in this draft that is ready to start or close to it.

Definitely. We have $22M in cap space available.

A big chunk of that will go to the rookies - but our lack of Dline help through the draft makes me wonder if we're in the Sheldon Richardson sweepstakes.

Fuller for Richardson. Make it happen.

[Moriarty]

Expensive vets are watching today to see which room gets too crowded... I'm thinking Royal and Houston get ousted today


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Not sure about Houston — I don't see a whole lot that fits the Bears' mold available to threaten there — but I absolutely concur with Royal.

Yeah, they got nobody at LB. I don't see Houston going making any sense.
(Plus, they can't release him until he clears medical or they offer a fat injury settlement, anyway.)

Zach Miller, on the other hand, will have to hold his breath after he clears his to see if they still want him or not.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I have to say that, I am very underwhelmed with this year's draft. In a year where we needed a lot of play makers, especially on defense, it seems like we got very few. The Trubisky and Shaheen picks are still a year away from maturity. I'm just not that excited with what has gone on.

[Moriarty]

Expensive vets are watching today to see which room gets too crowded... I'm thinking Royal and Houston get ousted today


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Not sure about Houston — I don't see a whole lot that fits the Bears' mold available to threaten there — but I absolutely concur with Royal.

Yeah, they got nobody at LB. I don't see Houston going making any sense.
(Plus, they can't release him until he clears medical or they offer a fat injury settlement, anyway.)

Zach Miller, on the other hand, will have to hold his breath after he clears his to see if they still want him or not.

Oh, and not an expensive vet, but I think Prosinski's chances may have just dropped from slim to none.

[thunderspirit]

I have to say that, I am very underwhelmed with this year's draft. In a year where we needed a lot of play makers, especially on defense, it seems like we got very few. The Trubisky and Shaheen picks are still a year away from maturity. I'm just not that excited with what has gone on.

A lot of it is expecting progress from last year's draft.
And a lot of it is an offense that finished 28th in pts scored.

Trubisky is all about the future. Shaheen and Jackson are about today and tomorrow. Morgan is about development. Cohen is about to get run over in blitz assignments.

[wab]

Expensive vets are watching today to see which room gets too crowded... I'm thinking Royal and Houston get ousted today


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Not sure about Houston — I don't see a whole lot that fits the Bears' mold available to threaten there — but I absolutely concur with Royal.

Yeah, they got nobody at LB. I don't see Houston going making any sense.
(Plus, they can't release him until he clears medical or they offer a fat injury settlement, anyway.)

Zach Miller, on the other hand, will have to hold his breath after he clears his to see if they still want him or not.

Miller had been worried about being brought back since like mid February.

[mmmc_35]

I just woke up (3rd shift) wtf is going on. This is the most dysfunctional drafts I could imagine.

[wab]

Was a weird one for sure. Weirdest I think I can ever remember.

[thunderspirit]

"Weird" doesn't begin to describe it.

[mmmc_35]

Was a weird one for sure. Weirdest I think I can ever remember.

Yeah, normally I may not agree with a pick, or trade, but I under stand it. This year is total confusion. Pace has a lot of depth to fill in.

[mmmc_35]

The more I look this shit over the more I realize, its possible in 4 years only 2 of these guys might still be in the league. All of then need time. Most will be broken in 2 years. This is hot garbage.

[Bearsmight]

This Draft and off-season makes me think....

The build through post draft cuts will be in full effect. Granted there will be quite a few good deals of solid vets, but this team did not gain a single player in this draft that is ready to start or close to it.

Even the best teams should have 2-3 players from the draft that contribute if not start in year one. For teams that were 3-13 the previous year it is a must. The Bears needs are so many and so great and this draft did virtually nothing to change that.

[G08]

Expensive vets are watching today to see which room gets too crowded... I'm thinking Royal and Houston get ousted today


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Not sure about Houston — I don't see a whole lot that fits the Bears' mold available to threaten there — but I absolutely concur with Royal.

Yeah, they got nobody at LB. I don't see Houston going making any sense.
(Plus, they can't release him until he clears medical or they offer a fat injury settlement, anyway.)

Zach Miller, on the other hand, will have to hold his breath after he clears his to see if they still want him or not.

Miller had been worried about being brought back since like mid February.

I was thinking about that last night... I think he might be a goner.

Regrading the draft... after all our moves, it basically cost us a very low 2nd rounder to move up and get Trubisky. I've liked the kid for a while now, he has the traits I love in a QB (think Rodgers, Carr). I hope he doesn't see the field until 2018. Kid needs to work on a lot -- learning the playbook, verbiage, getting in and out of the huddle, footwork, NFL defenses, etc.

I like Shaheen more than most, I think the Baby Gronk comparisons are a bit lofty, but for his size he runs routes and gets in and out of breaks awfully well. Might be a year away before he really can do anything.

Like the Jackson kid at safety, kid is more of a free IMO, hopefully he'll get tougher in run support.

Cohen should be a nice change of pace back, definitely see a role for him on 3rd downs (don't love Howard's hands).

[wab]

I like Jackson. He's basically the only true FS on the roster.

[Middleguard]

I can't help but wonder, what was Pace's plan for the draft if Cleveland had sprung their own surprise and taken Trubisky #1?

[wab]

I can't help but wonder, what was Pace's plan for the draft if Cleveland had sprung their own surprise and taken Trubisky #1?

I'd guess they would have tried to trade down with someone that wanted Fournette or they would've stayed put and drafted Thomas.

[Middleguard]

I can't help but wonder, what was Pace's plan for the draft if Cleveland had sprung their own surprise and taken Trubisky #1?

I'd guess they would have tried to trade down with someone that wanted Fournette or they would've stayed put and drafted Thomas.

But what QB?

[wab]

I can't help but wonder, what was Pace's plan for the draft if Cleveland had sprung their own surprise and taken Trubisky #1?

I'd guess they would have tried to trade down with someone that wanted Fournette or they would've stayed put and drafted Thomas.

But what QB?

Hard to say. If he's to be believed, he would have stuck to his board. Which means a QB may have not been drafted.

Which is probably why has said something along the lines of "we don't have to take a QB at all". I'd suppose it was Trubisky or bust.

[Boris13c]

Was a weird one for sure. Weirdest I think I can ever remember.

Yeah, normally I may not agree with a pick, or trade, but I under stand it. This year is total confusion. Pace has a lot of depth to fill in.

this was, hands down, the most confusing, perplexing, and surprising Bears draft day I can recall in my lifetime

I hope all that weirdness translates into good things

[Hiphopopotamos]

For those that are worried about what the experts think:

[Boris13c]

For those that are worried about what the experts think:

fuck em ... they don't know a damn thing more than we do in spite of being paid to know more and having more resources to find out

I guess I've grown even less patient with people presenting things they pulled from their asses as some sort of magical revelation we should all hold as gospel ... my disappointment with this started years ago with Mel Kiper and has only gone to lower depths since

[UOK]

For those that are worried about what the experts think:

Hey that's me!

[46Blitz]

For those that are worried about what the experts think:

Hey that's me!

[Hiphopopotamos]

For those that are worried about what the experts think:

Hey that's me!

Cut your hair, hippie.

[thunderspirit]

For those that are worried about what the experts think:

Hey that's me!

Cut your hair, hippie.

I can't even pick on him for that, cos he at least has hair.

[UOK]

For those that are worried about what the experts think:

Hey that's me!

Cut your hair, hippie.

I'm dating a hair stylist now. She makes sure it's short, so fear not.

[G08]

If we take the Bears' draft as a whole, they came out OK from a value standpoint. The picks they held entering the draft were worth 3,179 points on the Jimmy Johnson trade chart. The picks they held in the end were worth 3,113 points, counting 2018 picks that were part of the Bears' trades.

The difference in value equates to the 114th overall pick, a small price to pay for a team to make sure it gets the quarterback it wants. The deficit equates to the 48th overall pick if we use the trade chart Chase Stuart produced for his site, Football Perspective.

Yet Pace was "fleeced"? Give me a fucking break

[wab]

Admittedly it felt like it ant the time. Once my rage and confusion subsided, I realized it was a hell of a deal.