Update 2: McDaniels gives Colts the finger, stays in NE
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, what a train wreck this is.wab wrote:The guy was on the phone HIRING COACHES this morning. Not to mention the existing assistants that had signed contracts in Indy under the assumption that McDaniels would be the coach.
Jesus Christ. He may actually be an even worse person now than he was in Denver.
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I'm hearing Kraft threw a bunch of money at McDaniels and wanted to royally fuck Indy, mostly because of Deflategate.
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this is just incredible.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ith-colts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Report: Assistants Josh McDaniels hired are staying with Colts
Posted by Charean Williams on February 6, 2018, 8:46 PM EST
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The Colts already had hired three assistant coaches to serve under Josh McDaniels. Although McDaniels left the Colts at the alter, Indianapolis will retain Matt Eberflus as defensive coordinator, Dave DeGuglielmo as offensive line coach and Mike Phair as defensive line coach, according to Mike Garafolo of NFL Media.
The three assistants already are in the team facility, per Garafolo.
But Eberflus, DeGuglielmo and Phair now will serve under a head coach who didn’t hire them, which should make for an interesting staff.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ith-colts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Report: Assistants Josh McDaniels hired are staying with Colts
Posted by Charean Williams on February 6, 2018, 8:46 PM EST
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The Colts already had hired three assistant coaches to serve under Josh McDaniels. Although McDaniels left the Colts at the alter, Indianapolis will retain Matt Eberflus as defensive coordinator, Dave DeGuglielmo as offensive line coach and Mike Phair as defensive line coach, according to Mike Garafolo of NFL Media.
The three assistants already are in the team facility, per Garafolo.
But Eberflus, DeGuglielmo and Phair now will serve under a head coach who didn’t hire them, which should make for an interesting staff.
What a piece of shit...
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Spoke with several members of what was supposed to be McDaniels’ Indy coaching staff. They have not heard from Josh McDaniels regarding the change of heart. Just as blindsided as the rest of us. #Colts
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Spoke with several members of what was supposed to be McDaniels’ Indy coaching staff. They have not heard from Josh McDaniels regarding the change of heart. Just as blindsided as the rest of us. #Colts
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HmmmRustyTrubisky wrote:this is just incredible.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... ith-colts/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Report: Assistants Josh McDaniels hired are staying with Colts
Posted by Charean Williams on February 6, 2018, 8:46 PM EST
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The Colts already had hired three assistant coaches to serve under Josh McDaniels. Although McDaniels left the Colts at the alter, Indianapolis will retain Matt Eberflus as defensive coordinator, Dave DeGuglielmo as offensive line coach and Mike Phair as defensive line coach, according to Mike Garafolo of NFL Media.
The three assistants already are in the team facility, per Garafolo.
But Eberflus, DeGuglielmo and Phair now will serve under a head coach who didn’t hire them, which should make for an interesting staff.
I was about to start cheering that Toub might finally be getting his chance.
Not sure if it's counts as a blessing to be walking into the middle of this, though.
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LOL, and you see why most on here highly doubted he had changed anything about himself.
McD is who he is, a control freak smarter than everyone else bill wannabe and he always freaking will be except he sucks at it. Hangs all the assistants out to dry, doesn't even call to explain. What a complete piece of shit.
McD is who he is, a control freak smarter than everyone else bill wannabe and he always freaking will be except he sucks at it. Hangs all the assistants out to dry, doesn't even call to explain. What a complete piece of shit.
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I think its freaking marvelous that he's staying in NE where he can really screw up an organization that desperately needs to be brought down to earth.southdakbearfan wrote:LOL, and you see why most on here highly doubted he had changed anything about himself.
McD is who he is, a control freak smarter than everyone else bill wannabe and he always freaking will be except he sucks at it. Hangs all the assistants out to dry, doesn't even call to explain. What a complete piece of shit.
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I agree, i would rather see him turn the pats into a perennial dumpster fire than see him screw up andrew luck's career and replace him with the next tim tebow wannabe.pus wrote:I think its freaking marvelous that he's staying in NE where he can really screw up an organization that desperately needs to be brought down to earth.southdakbearfan wrote:LOL, and you see why most on here highly doubted he had changed anything about himself.
McD is who he is, a control freak smarter than everyone else bill wannabe and he always freaking will be except he sucks at it. Hangs all the assistants out to dry, doesn't even call to explain. What a complete piece of shit.
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Jesus Christ, my neck hurts. Worse than a tennis match.BR0D1E86 wrote:ESPN just had a blurb on the bottom that mcdaniels turned down the Colts and he’s staying in NE.
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Man, even if he's got an understanding that he's going to be the next HC of the pats, whenever that happens, after doing those assistant coaches dirty, how does he hire his own staff? McDaniels is going to inherit a pats team without Brady and he's going to have a fucking scarlet letter on his ass.
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You reap what you sew.
Mark it down, he will be a failure as a head coach within 2 seasons of taking over, gone after 3 and out of the league.
I still can't believe and get over him doing this after hiring assistants, I mean seriously what kind of piece of shit does that? It's one thing to go back on your word when you haven't signed a contract, but this is entirely another. It is fitting he is staying with the organization caught cheating more than anyone, that's best/top player dodges shaking hands with opponents after being beaten and who's coach may be the greatest ever and yet still be the biggest jackoff in the NFL.
Sometimes success isn't worth selling your soul to the devil and I would assume the rest of the nfl, including the league offices are looking upon this entire episode with critical eyes.
I hope Brady falls off a cliff with father time and the rest of the NFL roles them repeatedly, especially when old josh takes over.
Plus if I was Tom I might be a little leery, especially when playing the colts. I would suspect it is going to be worth it to a few of their players to take a couple 15 yd roughing the passer long after the ball is gone penalties to make Tom look cross eyed at McD.
Thank god for pace not falling for him.
Mark it down, he will be a failure as a head coach within 2 seasons of taking over, gone after 3 and out of the league.
I still can't believe and get over him doing this after hiring assistants, I mean seriously what kind of piece of shit does that? It's one thing to go back on your word when you haven't signed a contract, but this is entirely another. It is fitting he is staying with the organization caught cheating more than anyone, that's best/top player dodges shaking hands with opponents after being beaten and who's coach may be the greatest ever and yet still be the biggest jackoff in the NFL.
Sometimes success isn't worth selling your soul to the devil and I would assume the rest of the nfl, including the league offices are looking upon this entire episode with critical eyes.
I hope Brady falls off a cliff with father time and the rest of the NFL roles them repeatedly, especially when old josh takes over.
Plus if I was Tom I might be a little leery, especially when playing the colts. I would suspect it is going to be worth it to a few of their players to take a couple 15 yd roughing the passer long after the ball is gone penalties to make Tom look cross eyed at McD.
Thank god for pace not falling for him.
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Absolutely brutal write up on the story by the IndyStar, I've not read a piece as damning as this in a long time!!
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/02/06/doyel-josh-mcdaniels-selfish-little-jerk-but-did-colts-indy-favor/304619002/
What an absolute douche, he has pretty much resigned himself to one job opportunity now as the other 31 teams won't touch him after this debacle. It'll be interesting to see how he copes and how he's viewed once he doesn't have Brady.
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/02/06/doyel-josh-mcdaniels-selfish-little-jerk-but-did-colts-indy-favor/304619002/
What an absolute douche, he has pretty much resigned himself to one job opportunity now as the other 31 teams won't touch him after this debacle. It'll be interesting to see how he copes and how he's viewed once he doesn't have Brady.
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Yeah what you said!YOGABBA wrote:Thank God Pace dodged this bullet.
Pace is looking smarter and smarter with every coaching hire, or non-hire, this offseason.
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10 bucks says Lovie Smith is the next HC of the Colts. The Mike Phair connection is real folks!
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Christ man. I was SO, SO against McDaniels for this very reason. Crooked trees don't suddenly grow straight. Joshy is who he is, and now his actions in Denver seem to be the norm rather than a growth experience.The Marshall Plan wrote:Yeah what you said!YOGABBA wrote:Thank God Pace dodged this bullet.
Pace is looking smarter and smarter with every coaching hire, or non-hire, this offseason.
Nice work Pace!
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I had NO idea he had already agreed in principle to take the job, and had started hiring assistants. What a piece of shit. Just WOW!southdakbearfan wrote:You reap what you sew.
Mark it down, he will be a failure as a head coach within 2 seasons of taking over, gone after 3 and out of the league.
I still can't believe and get over him doing this after hiring assistants, I mean seriously what kind of piece of shit does that? It's one thing to go back on your word when you haven't signed a contract, but this is entirely another. It is fitting he is staying with the organization caught cheating more than anyone, that's best/top player dodges shaking hands with opponents after being beaten and who's coach may be the greatest ever and yet still be the biggest jackoff in the NFL.
Sometimes success isn't worth selling your soul to the devil and I would assume the rest of the nfl, including the league offices are looking upon this entire episode with critical eyes.
I hope Brady falls off a cliff with father time and the rest of the NFL roles them repeatedly, especially when old josh takes over.
Plus if I was Tom I might be a little leery, especially when playing the colts. I would suspect it is going to be worth it to a few of their players to take a couple 15 yd roughing the passer long after the ball is gone penalties to make Tom look cross eyed at McD.
Thank god for pace not falling for him.
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At the very least, the Colts got through the McDaniels era quicker than the Broncos did.
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All the questions left for the Colts in the Josh McDaniels fallout
McDaniels better have gotten a lifetime contract guarantee from Kraft because if the Patriots ever do show him the door, I doubt any other NFL team will show an interest after this bullshit
kudos to the Colts for honoring the contracts of the assistants that were signed for McDanielsThe Colts released a statement saying they were "surprised and disappointed." Do they have any legal recourse?
It's highly unlikely. By all accounts, McDaniels never signed a binding contract. That's why the Colts used the phrase "agreed to terms" in their initial announcement -- a description of what happened, but largely irrelevant in a legal sense. You can't violate a contract you didn't sign.
Does McDaniels' decision to back out violate any league rule?
It doesn't appear that McDaniels broke any rule here. The NFL doesn't recognize moves -- roster adjustments, trades, hirings or firings -- until they are official and approved. From a league perspective, McDaniels never stopped being the Patriots' offensive coordinator. The Colts do not appear to have a platform from which to file a grievance.
So that's it? No consequences?
At least some teams, owners and assistant coaches will wonder whether they can trust McDaniels' word. We don't know everything about what happened behind the scenes, but clearly the Colts felt comfortable enough with his commitment to make the announcement. And at least some members of his presumptive coaching staff signed deals to join him.
What happens to those assistants?
Matt Eberflus was slated to be defensive coordinator, Dave DeGuglielmo to be the offensive line coach, Mike Phair to be the defensive line coach and Patriots assistant quarterbacks coach Jerry Schuplinski was also expected to be on McDaniels' staff.
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Tuesday night that Eberflus and Phair have already signed their contracts and will stay with the team while working under the new coach. The Colts should be commended for honoring their commitments to those coaches, but it's not an ideal situation given that they weren't brought in by the team's next head coach.
McDaniels better have gotten a lifetime contract guarantee from Kraft because if the Patriots ever do show him the door, I doubt any other NFL team will show an interest after this bullshit
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You weren't kidding beardownbilly, this snippet from the article had me almost snorting coffee out of my nose:beardownbilly wrote:Absolutely brutal write up on the story by the IndyStar, I've not read a piece as damning as this in a long time!!
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/02/06/doyel-josh-mcdaniels-selfish-little-jerk-but-did-colts-indy-favor/304619002/
What an absolute douche, he has pretty much resigned himself to one job opportunity now as the other 31 teams won't touch him after this debacle. It'll be interesting to see how he copes and how he's viewed once he doesn't have Brady.
McDaniels will stay with the New England Patriots as their offensive coordinator. Or maybe he knows something we don’t, and will be replacing Patriots boss Bill Belichick. Hell, I don’t know, maybe Josh McDaniels will give in to his primal urges, shed his human skin and burrow into the insulation in Belichick’s basement.
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WagonForce wrote:You weren't kidding beardownbilly, this snippet from the article had me almost snorting coffee out of my nose:beardownbilly wrote:Absolutely brutal write up on the story by the IndyStar, I've not read a piece as damning as this in a long time!!
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/columnists/gregg-doyel/2018/02/06/doyel-josh-mcdaniels-selfish-little-jerk-but-did-colts-indy-favor/304619002/
What an absolute douche, he has pretty much resigned himself to one job opportunity now as the other 31 teams won't touch him after this debacle. It'll be interesting to see how he copes and how he's viewed once he doesn't have Brady.
McDaniels will stay with the New England Patriots as their offensive coordinator. Or maybe he knows something we don’t, and will be replacing Patriots boss Bill Belichick. Hell, I don’t know, maybe Josh McDaniels will give in to his primal urges, shed his human skin and burrow into the insulation in Belichick’s basement.
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Heard on the radio (rumor) that Kraft is behind this, another way of saying "F*ck you" to the Colts due to Deflategate. Report said he had been working on McD the past 48 hrs. Offered him mega $$ to stay on.
Who knows. I know I don't give a shit. But one thing I will say, good for McD, keep the kids stable and let them grow up where they currently are.
Let the hate continue....................................................
Who knows. I know I don't give a shit. But one thing I will say, good for McD, keep the kids stable and let them grow up where they currently are.
Let the hate continue....................................................
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If Kraft/McDaniels are doing this as retribution for deflate-gate, then additional kudos should be given to them for delivering this treacherous news to the Colts on the same day they were burying their recently slain linebacker. Probably an occasion for impromptu circle-jerk in Belichick's office.
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More weird fragments of this train wreck:
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- (McD's agent) LaMonte advised McDaniels that he was making perhaps the biggest professional mistake of his career by backing out of the Colts deal so late in the process
- LaMonte dumped McD after he went ahead with bailing out
- LaMonte also represented Colts GM Chris Ballard
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