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Just an awful deal for Indy.
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One less team going after Chubb.
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The article has been updated. Originally it didn’t include the Jets 6th overall pick.

If I had to guess, the Colts are targeting Nelson.
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I think this also puts added pressure on the Browns to go QB with the first pick.
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wab wrote:The article has been updated. Originally it didn’t include the Jets 6th overall pick.

If I had to guess, the Colts are targeting Nelson.
I'm working on getting used to the outcome where he's the player that almost falls to the Bears this year.
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Guessing Browns take Baker Mayfield #1, and unless the Giants take him, gotta think they'll take Barkley at 4. It's essentially the same picks, just reversed. Colts may get Nelson, but Chubbs/Edmunds could be there for Bears. It'll be very tight, however.
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This deal, makes Pace look better in regards to the Mitch deal. Actually, it makes him look really good.
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McCblaz wrote:This deal, makes Pace look better in regards to the Mitch deal. Actually, it makes him look really good.
Yes it does. If you believe your franchise QB is in the draft, you do whatever it takes to get him.
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Well said bro...well said.
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imagine if we were sitting here with the 11th pick needing to take a qb right now.
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wab wrote:Just an awful deal for Indy.
For indy?
"I wouldn't take him for a conditional 7th. His next contract will pay him more than he could possibly contribute.".

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I would love Chubb falling to us
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malk wrote:
wab wrote:Just an awful deal for Indy.
For indy?
When it was first reported, the #6 pick wasn’t listed as being part of the trade. It was the Jets 2nd and 3rd and their 2019 2nd round pick.
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I don't think this increases the odds of Chubb being there at 8. Indy is still there at 6.

From my perspective I keep thinking more and more that we take Davenport and give Fangio a project.
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wab wrote:
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wab wrote:Just an awful deal for Indy.
For indy?
When it was first reported, the #6 pick wasn’t listed as being part of the trade. It was the Jets 2nd and 3rd and their 2019 2nd round pick.
Ah, fair enough!
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The Marshall Plan wrote:I don't think this increases the odds of Chubb being there at 8. Indy is still there at 6.

From my perspective I keep thinking more and more that we take Davenport and give Fangio a project.
I can delude myself into having Chubb fall to us, if all four quarterbacks go, Barkley falls to Indy (they have no running backs), Tampa just signed Curry so they may go for Minkah instead...

But it’s all just some crazy dream. Not going to happen.
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wab wrote:The article has been updated. Originally it didn’t include the Jets 6th overall pick.

If I had to guess, the Colts are targeting Nelson.
i always thought nelson was a better guess than chubb anyway, if only from an extreme course correcting standpoint. i'd guess chris ballard is going to do everything he can to try and protect andrew luck this year.
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I could see the top 8 going like this (barring any other trades of course):

1. Browns - Sam Darnold
2. Giants - Saquon Barkley
3. Jets - Josh Allen
4. Browns - Bradley Chubb
5. Broncos - Josh Rosen
6. Colts - Quenton Nelson
7. Bucs - Minkah Fitzpatrick
8. Bears - Tremaine Edmunds

There are so many possibilities. Heck, the Browns may not take a QB #1 overall - no one really knows. But my guess is that they will because of the Jets trading up to 3 and also the Bills lurking in the background. It forces the Browns to use the 1st pick on a QB. I also think the Giants are a wild card to take a QB. Their GM Gettleman could be trying to salvage one more year out of Eli and build around him - or he could say F it, wipe the slate clean and get a young QB now to build around. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out - this could be one of the most entertaining top 10's in a while.
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DaSuperfan wrote:I could see the top 8 going like this (barring any other trades of course):

1. Browns - Sam Darnold
2. Giants - Saquon Barkley
3. Jets - Josh Allen
4. Browns - Bradley Chubb
5. Broncos - Josh Rosen
6. Colts - Quenton Nelson
7. Bucs - Minkah Fitzpatrick
8. Bears - Tremaine Edmunds

There are so many possibilities. Heck, the Browns may not take a QB #1 overall - no one really knows. But my guess is that they will because of the Jets trading up to 3 and also the Bills lurking in the background. It forces the Browns to use the 1st pick on a QB. I also think the Giants are a wild card to take a QB. Their GM Gettleman could be trying to salvage one more year out of Eli and build around him - or he could say F it, wipe the slate clean and get a young QB now to build around. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out - this could be one of the most entertaining top 10's in a while.
I don't think the Browns take a QB #1 either. Barkley will not be there at 4 if they pass on him at 1. However there will be QBs on the board at 4 if they take Barkley at 1. I could also see them not taking a QB at all in the first round and letting Taylor be the guy next year.

If they Browns walk away with Barkley and Chubb at 1 and 4 that's an amazing draft. I know the positions don't line up, but could Joe Thomas' retiring make them take Nelson at 4?

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I'd bet the house they take a QB..

With the Jets right behind them almost certain to take a QB, there's now way they don't.
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The Marshall Plan wrote:
DaSuperfan wrote:I could see the top 8 going like this (barring any other trades of course):

1. Browns - Sam Darnold
2. Giants - Saquon Barkley
3. Jets - Josh Allen
4. Browns - Bradley Chubb
5. Broncos - Josh Rosen
6. Colts - Quenton Nelson
7. Bucs - Minkah Fitzpatrick
8. Bears - Tremaine Edmunds

There are so many possibilities. Heck, the Browns may not take a QB #1 overall - no one really knows. But my guess is that they will because of the Jets trading up to 3 and also the Bills lurking in the background. It forces the Browns to use the 1st pick on a QB. I also think the Giants are a wild card to take a QB. Their GM Gettleman could be trying to salvage one more year out of Eli and build around him - or he could say F it, wipe the slate clean and get a young QB now to build around. It'll be interesting to see how it all shakes out - this could be one of the most entertaining top 10's in a while.
I don't think the Browns take a QB #1 either. Barkley will not be there at 4 if they pass on him at 1. However there will be QBs on the board at 4 if they take Barkley at 1. I could also see them not taking a QB at all in the first round and letting Taylor be the guy next year.

If they Browns walk away with Barkley and Chubb at 1 and 4 that's an amazing draft. I know the positions don't line up, but could Joe Thomas' retiring make them take Nelson at 4?

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It feels incredibly delusional to me right now to think that picks 1-3 are not all going to be QB's. If the Giants dont take a QB (ESPECIALLY after the browns pass on taking a QB), someone is going to trade up into that spot. There are just too many teams that could potentially lunge at the chance to take whatever QB they want instead of picking through who's left.

So the Browns take a running back who will absolutely be there at 4, and potentially dont get their top two QB's because of this.
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1-3 will absolutely be QBs.
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Why wouldn’t the Colts wait until draft day?
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crueltyabc wrote:Why wouldn’t the Colts wait until draft day?
because someone could potentially trade into the 2 spot, and then the jets could say fuck it? or the jets could end up getting a better deal for the 2 spot? or a million other things could happen and it could fall through?

if you like the terms of the trade (and if i'm a colts fan, i think this is a fucking home run), why give it time to collapse?
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RustyTrubisky wrote:
crueltyabc wrote:Why wouldn’t the Colts wait until draft day?
because someone could potentially trade into the 2 spot, and then the jets could say fuck it? or the jets could end up getting a better deal for the 2 spot? or a million other things could happen and it could fall through?

if you like the terms of the trade (and if i'm a colts fan, i think this is a fucking home run), why give it time to collapse?
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RustyTrubisky wrote:
Can't be true.
Everyone knows Ryan Pace got fleeced.
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dplank wrote:I agree with Rich here
RichH55 wrote: Dplank is correct
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Trade up deals are all about success rate of the QB you got. If you get a quality QB, it's generally worth it. I'm satisfied.
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thunderspirit wrote:
RustyTrubisky wrote:
Can't be true.
Everyone knows Ryan Pace got fleeced.
It's incredibly situational though. Pace moved up to guarantee no one else traded with the 49ers. The worst case scenario was we could take Mahomes or Watson and, as it turned out, the next QB went to KC after a trade up to 10.

Now does someone else make a trade because they had Trubisky higher than the other QBs? Sure, its possible, but whom?

It's also worth considering how much extra Trubisky is costing over Mahomes, it's $29m compared to $16m.
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Too many Giants fans want them to get a boat load of picks and trade out of #2. Most of the local analysts I'm hearing are split between Nelson and Chubb for them if they stay, with Barkley being the dark horse if the Browns pass on him #1.
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