how about DT?

You'll never convince me that politeness is bad. I'm sorry this is where you've ended up, and "honesty" is not a replacement for basic human kindness and politeness. Being polite costs you nothing.

I want to first say that I am happy we signed Jarrett. But there’s a decent chance he disappoints, I always have some worry when an older guy who was recently injured gets released like he did. Hedging at DT seems really smart to me.

The same phantom people who projected greatness on to Case Keenum. They don't exist, that's the point. And that's why there should be no ongoing debate about it , folks just paint people into extreme positions they don't actually hold just to argue about it. I'll never understand it.


OK ...

The hilarious thing about Rodgers is that he can still play, and teams don’t want him because he’s just such a massive doucher. A cancer to any team he’s on. We’ve always known it, now everyone does.

For some reason I really don't understand, this made me absolutely laugh my ass off....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K0JJNfedCS0

Not a great game..but you see how tough Mike Green is to block 1/1. I see flashes of Micah Parsons when I watch him play. Watch him toss that OT out of the way…watch him toss Conerly on his back at the Sr Bowl. He overcomes size with speed and strength ...

Don’t forget Duverney, I bet he has a couple really big plays for us this year.


If by chance Warren should fall, or we draft another TE fairly early I can see Johnson fashioning an offense where the move TE will take the place of a 3rd WR on quite a few offensive snaps and the role of a 3rd ...

I just do not like Gabriel, at all. Never did, never will. Just something about that guy that curls my fingers into a fist,iykwim.


Same here, but I can separate my dislike of him personally when it comes to taking in information. I do cite him at times because he does have real life experiences ...

But projecting all the greatness onto Bagent isn’t dealing with reality either, so….


Few if any are projecting greatness into him. Some of us believe if given a shot he may eventually be able to compete for a starters job but becoming a starter and winning consistently as one aren't the ...

I still don’t get why there’s anything to bicker about here. We signed a vet QB, Johnson now has another option available based on what he sees in camp, there’s no downside. If Bagent can’t beat out Keenan then case closed, if he does then good for him. Whatever Johnson prefers is fine with me ...

Smart extension at a fair price

There's directness and then there's just being a dick. It's a fine line that some people deftly manage and others struggle with. Gabriel goes too far sometimes and lands on the dick side too often. He also can't handle anyone challenging him at all without losing his temper and acting a fool.

And ...

Yup. I find the same. Far too many of them say some of the most off the wall stuff I've ever heard as they stretch reality searching for some new slant to try. I much prefer listening/watching Greg Gabriel who at least approaches it from the perspective of a former top personnel guy whose also ...

I still don’t get why there’s anything to bicker about here. We signed a vet QB, Johnson now has another option available based on what he sees in camp, there’s no downside. If Bagent can’t beat out Keenan then case closed, if he does then good for him. Whatever Johnson prefers is fine with me, so ...

Yep, had Poles not gotten after the OL in FA then I’d be banging my normal drum about it - but he did. And it’s an exciting thought to pair last years top QB with this years top RB.

There probably aren't 4 "generational" players in this draft.

Hunter is. Carter could be if his foot is fine and the concerns about his character are overblown. Jeanty is the next closest. Who is the last RB to be compared to LT or Emmitt Smith? That's pretty high praise for Jeanty.


The ...

We don’t need to manufacture arguments out of thin air. I haven’t heard a single person hate Bagent, just reality checking the Bagent stans which is entirely different. As for the Fields dig, get back to me when Bagent signs with another NFL team as a starter like Justin just did - until then ...

This is what happens when you dare question Tyson Bagent's greatness lol....

Weird draft for me, I’m not really hung up on any player and will be happy with a bunch of different players and different positions at 10. Campbell, Jeanty, Warren, Grant, Stewart - all good options.

I'd still like to add an OT high. However, I'm at like 30% dplank panic meter about it as opposed to my usual 150%

That’s not a reasonable standard IMO. Guys get dinged, and not many guy play all 17 in a season.

That said, I agree not to extend either given their injury history until they prove otherwise. Same as Tev and he failed to prove it last year.

Getting dinged up does not cause a player to miss ...

I’m not extending Jones or Brisker unless they are willing to take a bargain

I hear you. But, I am not willing to give them even a bargain contract until both can show they can play 17 games in a row. That is 17 in a row in a single season, not over two seasons.


That’s not a reasonable ...

Don’t forget Duverney, I bet he has a couple really big plays for us this year.

Those cheap ass Bears don’t pay nobody! lol, that’s pricey but he’s a core player and home grown talent. This is what good franchises do, let’s go!

Has anyone checked on Moriarty?

Man, just couldn't disagree more but no point in arguing about it. Dude made more big plays on offense than any other non qb player


Probably so (I don't have a 'big play' metric right in front of me) - but you also have to consider he had 4x as many touches as the next RB and 3x as many ...

Somehow you keep missing my point here, so I'll just try one last time then move on. First off, it's not just INT's he also managed to turn the ball over 3 times on fumbles. So let's just be accurate here and not try to massage or manipulate stats for some predetermined outcome. He turned the ...

So many Ducks Yogi!