Ohio State Buckeyes wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. is almost unanimously considered to be the No. 1 wide receiver prospect in the upcoming NFL Draft and many have been assuming this was his final year of college football even before the season began. But in a shocking turn of events, it sounds l...

Its a fair want You are doubtful to get it though IMHO I"d even be willing up the overall value and what he gets in the first two years to have that security blanket. Hate the three year deal where year three the guy is a $18M cap hit and they aren't producing. Im not sure that winds up saving...

Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:36 pm

Grizzled wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:39 pm
Lucas Patrick: 666 snaps

The number of the anti-Christ

I noticed that too -ha

Sure, there is value is stacking future picks so you can add talent, but not at the expense of your team RIGHT NOW. You never know what's in the next draft, so if you have a shot at a potentially great player, you take him and you don't worry about next years draft. You don't pass on the cute chick...

Ark - that will be true of almost any deal (the out after 3 years) The 75 million in those 3 years might still hurt though! Oops fat fingers. Was thinking 2 years. I know many edge type players continue to produce towards their mid 30s, that idea just scares me, so I'd want a way out after 2 years ...

Raiders - Maxx Crosby

Commanders - Terry McLauren?

New England - Anyone?

Giants - Thibeiouex (sp)

Cardinals - Anyone?

The only splash I see the Bears making in FA is at DE if one hits the market. I think Danielle Hunter makes it to FA. His new contract prevents them from using a tag on him. The question becomes how much do you want to pay a 29 year old DE (Will turn 30 next October) and how big a pay day is he wan...

Lions 21
Bears 12

Side issue: there's the possibility that a QB3 emerges during the draft process that makes the Bears' #5 pick valuable enough to trade back and acquire a future first. After we're done rooting for the Panthers to lose out, we should start rooting for somebody (Jayden Daniels?) to destroy the combin...

Strengthens the case to bring him back

There's not really much context to ignore. It's a simple option that's being discussed. MHJ or a haul of other potential assets. There are no guarantees with who Poles might acquire with those assets. I'm just pointing out a) there are always other players who turn out to be exceptional and b) what...

Who are we talking about here? Anyone who was effusive in their praise of Bagent, and still wants us to draft Williams or Maye. Those two thoughts compete in an odd way IMO. If you draft Williams or Maye, Bagent never sees the field again. Ok - needs actual analysis - especially when the Fields stu...

Well....my best guess would be: You SouthDakota Moriarty Rich Karhu maybe? I'm honestly not keeping notes here, so if anyone here isn't pushing for us to draft Williams or Maye I apologize. But I'm pretty sure this is a list of Bagent lovers / Fields haters. This isn't personal, I like most of thes...

Who are we talking about here? Anyone who was effusive in their praise of Bagent, and still wants us to draft Williams or Maye. Those two thoughts compete in an odd way IMO. If you draft Williams or Maye, Bagent never sees the field again. In no way are these two particularly difficult thoughts to ...

For a more recent analogy, would people trade the following for MHJ? DJ Moore Darnell Wright Tyrique Stevenson A top 3 pick next year A 2nd round pick in 2025 Really interested post Marshall Plan's point is very fair as well - that we aren't in the same position. I do think where the 1st winds up n...

Yeah, I do see some potential at C (though Cushenberry would be my target there before Biadasz or Williams; I'd be fine with Williams as a second option in the FA market, but I suspect some team will have him #1). WR and DE nearly always suck in free agency. It's why you have to draft them. It's go...

Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 2:16 pm

RichH55 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:36 pm

Sadly our current record sees to be trolling us on that account

Damn that record

And full speed ahead Admiral Farragut!

thunderspirit wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:04 pm At the risk of derailing the thread further: the non-PI was almost certainly a make-up call for the BS unnecessary roughness penalty.

Which does not make either one right.

That was my takeaway as well

You go with the choice that has the best odds, regardless of whether they're above 50% or not. * And I didn't say "signing vet QBs to long term deals is bad", I said getting the wrong guy there is just as harmful as getting the wrong guy with a high draft pick. And here is where you thoug...

Complete list: CB - Jaylon Johnson DE - Yannick Ngakoue WR - Darnell Mooney WR - ESB DT - Justin Jones K - Cairo Santos RB - D'Onta Foreman C - Lucas Patrick DE - Rasheem Greene LS - Patrick Scales TE - Mercedes Lewis TE - Robert Tonyan WR/PR - Trent Taylor IOL - Dan Feeney CB - Josh Blackwell QB -...

Disagree here. 49ers didn't even lose a year (they are an outlier mind you) I think it costs you 2-3 years if you get the wrong guy. It can be as low as 1 year (Cards Rosen) where that was yeah - welp - we just wasted a Top 10 pick but we didn't kill the franchise. The key is making other smart dec...

Jaylon Johnson - pay him please please Santos - keep him forever EJax - I don't like creating a hole but he's too expensive as he's playing right now. He should go chase a ring on his last contract Mooney - he's a better player than he's looked this year. Fields/Getsy are to blame for his low numbe...

Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:56 am

Grizzled wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 9:27 am.
Patrick - probably for depth at a modest but fair price

We need some depth in the sick bay?
I’d be back on the “fire Poles bus”

Poles can never come back from how badly he screwed up the IR with designation to return stuff.

Dead man walking

He was the the type of player I think you shoot for in the 5th round. He was raw (as WAB pointed out he hadn't played much as a defensive player) but had all the traits you want a player to have. To me at that point the risk/reward factors justify the pick. It looking more and more like a strike ou...

Haven't really been following but his W/L to box score is crazy this year. 5-3 despite only 2.9:2.1 TD:INT, a 40.9% success rate, plus that's playing with the currently 27th ranked defence. Just win baby. (The Colts are 6th in rushing TDs despite being 12th in yards, it seems likely that Minshew is...

Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:34 pm Fields is good enough to win right now, plank is spot on.

Sadly our current record sees to be trolling us on that account

One of the things drafting a QB buys you are 4 very cheap, very escapable contract years. It also sets your team back 4-6 years if you pick the wrong guy. Disagree here. 49ers didn't even lose a year (they are an outlier mind you) I think it costs you 2-3 years if you get the wrong guy. It can be a...

Saying that Fields is good enough "right now" to be a contender is still -sadly - Just Wishful Thinking (Wishful Drinking?) He's coming off 12 points and multiple fumbles. If someone thinks the criteria for winning championships - or at least winning playoff games - is multiple turnovers b...

Good post Art, I can see both outcomes also but lean towards the other one where Fields continues playing well and we keep him. I wonder what the narrative on Love would be if he was thrown in as a rookie with a lame duck HC, then played again his second year in a new offense on a team that was act...

wab wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 1:03 pm So if most QB picks fail, and signing vet QBs to long term deals is bad…

Do we just go back to the single wing…or?

Play to Fields strengths