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by Grizzled
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:28 pm
Forum: The War Room
Topic: Way too early 2024 mock draft
Replies: 129
Views: 18768

Re: Way too early 2024 mock draft

1-1: Caleb Williams, QB, USC
1-14: Olu Fashanu, OT, Penn State (Bears trade 1-9 and 2025 6th to New Orleans for 1-14 and 2-45)
2-45: Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon
3-75: Bralen Trice, DE, Washington
4-122: Leonard Taylor, DT, Miami of Florida
by Grizzled
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Caleb Williams News and Rumor thread
Replies: 2180
Views: 42035

Re: Caleb Williams News and Rumor thread

4 teams have not had a QB pass for 30 TDs in the 21 century:

Miami (last time Marino in 1994)
Browns (last time Sipes in 1980)
Commandos (last time Jurgenson 1967)
Bears (never had one)

Here's hoping Williams breaks the streak
by Grizzled
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:54 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

First 8 picks go:
QB
QB
QB
Harrison
QB (Minny trades with the Chargers)
Nabers
Odunze (Jets trade with Titans)
Turner

So Alt is sitting there as is Bowers, Fuaga, Verse, and Latu. What are you going to do? I say take Alt much as Bowers is tempting.10 year rocks at both tackles.
by Grizzled
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:42 am
Forum: The War Room
Topic: Odunze or Nabers?
Replies: 47
Views: 2395

Re: Odunze or Nabers?

Steve Smith, the perennial All Pro and future HOFer, evaluated the top 3 WRs. He says Odunze is talented but didn't have to fight for the ball and win outside overly much playing against weak Pac 12 defenses. He does say this is a skill which can be learned. Haven't read anything from him regarding ...
by Grizzled
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:36 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: 30 Visits
Replies: 111
Views: 3278

Re: 30 Visits

The breakdown of 30 Visits:

WR: 6
DE: 4
C: 4
CB: 4
OT: 3
QB: 1
RB: 1
LB: 1
S: 1

No DTs. Poles is big on drafting guys he brings in for a visit.
by Grizzled
Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:00 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Local Pro Days
Replies: 5
Views: 228

Re: Local Pro Days

The Bears are scheduling a local pro day for college players who live in the Chicagoland area. It seems like something they have done before. Guys attending are more likely to be undrafted and the team is always looking for its next Jack Sanborn: https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/multiple...
by Grizzled
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:34 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Caleb Williams News and Rumor thread
Replies: 2180
Views: 42035

Re: Caleb Williams News and Rumor thread

From Aaron Schatz, a top analytics guy at ESPN: 75% chance that Caleb Williams will be an adequate starter, 21% chance that he's elite: "Williams is the consensus top QB in the draft for good reason. He won the Heisman Trophy in 2022 and followed it up with a very strong 2023. He threw for more...
by Grizzled
Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:18 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Bears New Stadium Nonsense Repository
Replies: 1031
Views: 109052

Re: Bears New Stadium Nonsense Repository

The other day, AH said a Bears stadium on the site is dead. But I'd find it hard to believe if they weren't still trying to negotiate with the Bears.
by Grizzled
Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:56 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

Only in 3 other drafts has a team taken a 1st round QB and WR:

1968: Detroit - Greg Landry and Earl McCullouch
2004: Buffalo - J.P. Losman and Lee Evans
2010: Denver - Tim Tebow and Demaryious Thomas

If the Bears take a WR at #9, it would be the first time that a team drafted both in the top 10.
by Grizzled
Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:40 am
Forum: NFL General Discussion
Topic: Ranking the Past 5 Drafts
Replies: 1
Views: 81

Ranking the Past 5 Drafts

Not surprisingly, those teams ranked highest for drafting the past 5 years have been in the playoffs consistently. Great teams build through the draft. Poles has added some pieces in trades and FA but seems determined to build through the draft for long germ success. Hitting on 2 top 10 picks will p...
by Grizzled
Fri Apr 12, 2024 6:36 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

I keep hearing a lot of people say that Byron Murphy II is highly underrated in the media draft community (compared to NFL people) and despite the lack of length could be a real possibility at 9 for the Beloved. Has some of that Tommie Harris relentlessness. Just hope he doesn't have the knees of a...
by Grizzled
Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:08 pm
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

"Penix with great penetration on that sneak," "Penix somehow finds a magical escape," "A dripping wet Penix shakes his head as he just can't seem to finish today," "Penix really hitting his tight ends today," "Penix evades the sack with a slippery move,&...
by Grizzled
Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:20 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

One of the top DEs or 3Ts will be available by trading down a few spots while snagging a 2nd or another 3rd. Poles does like his defenders and building up the DL. If, however, one of the top 3 WRs is still on the board, then Poles will really have to consider taking him and really jumpstarting the B...
by Grizzled
Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:17 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Bears New Stadium Nonsense Repository
Replies: 1031
Views: 109052

Re: Bears New Stadium Nonsense Repository

The Bears wouldn't lose that much more revenue if they went with AH and the taxes the school districts want. I figure Warren's playing high stakes poker. Save and excepting a downtown plan is developed showing significant revenues flowing to the Bears, I don't see how they can walk away from AH. Dev...
by Grizzled
Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:37 pm
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: My Guy for the 2024 Draft
Replies: 11
Views: 330

Re: My Guy for the 2024 Draft

I couldn't sleep last night, so I came out and did a Mock Draft with PFN. In it, I was offered a trade by the Rams: the #9 pick for the Rams 19, 52, 155, and next year's second. I took it and came away with 19--WR-Brian Thomas; 52--DE Bralen Trice; 75--DT Braden Fiske; 122--OC Beaux Limmer; and 155...
by Grizzled
Wed Apr 10, 2024 1:31 pm
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

The Cards supposedly want three 1sts to move up to their #4 pick. Ouch, very premium. Looking at the trade chart, the Bears would have to give up #9 and a 2nd at least for #5 if the Bears wanted to move up for Nabers or Harrison; don't know if that 2025 2nd from Carolina would be enticing. Looks lik...
by Grizzled
Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:29 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

Looking at #12 to #14: Denver, Vegas, and New Orleans. Denver is thought to be going after a QB. Vegas either a QB, OT, or CB. NO an OT. If the Bears see the premium guys they want go 1-8, perhaps they will explore trades with these teams. Denver and Vegas might want to move in front of Minnesota fo...
by Grizzled
Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:23 am
Forum: The War Room
Topic: J. C. Latham
Replies: 2
Views: 93

J. C. Latham

Has been getting good writeups from draft analysts, some saying he might be the best OT candidate in the draft, even more so than Alt. He's big, mobile, a punishing run blocker. Some think he should play at RT or RG if moved inside. Physically and psychologically, he is like Wright, he's big, tough,...
by Grizzled
Tue Apr 09, 2024 8:19 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

My bad, ran out of fingers. Turner is still there at 9, ATL takes a WR at 8. Turner is that speed rusher to complement Sweat but is he better suited to a 3-4, how will he play with his hand on the ground like the Bears prefer. LOL....good thing we don't have the 11th pick. ;) We don't know whether ...
by Grizzled
Mon Apr 08, 2024 5:56 pm
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

In this scenario, Turner goes #8 to the Falcons. How? You've ticked off 4 QBs, 3 WRs, and Alt. That's picks 1-8 already with the Bears at #9 and Turner still on the board. If four QB go in the top ten the way I see it is either Turner or a top three WR will still be on the board at #9 depending on ...
by Grizzled
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:13 pm
Forum: The War Room
Topic: Way too early 2024 mock draft
Replies: 129
Views: 18768

Re: Way too early 2024 mock draft

The first 8 picks worked out QB-QB-QB-QB (Giants trade up)-OT(Alt)-WR(Harrison)-OT(Fashanu)-WR(Nabers). Turner was available. The Broncos offered #12 and a 2025 1st. The Raiders offered #13 and a 2025 1st. The Rams offered #19, #52, and a 4th, which was a bit lower than desired but there's some dept...
by Grizzled
Mon Apr 08, 2024 12:01 pm
Forum: NFL General Discussion
Topic: Rashee Rice sought by police
Replies: 23
Views: 850

Re: Rashee Rice sought by police

HisRoyalSweetness wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:15 pm
That and a lot of money will make everything right . Wonder if the team and/or the NFL will take disciplinary actions.
by Grizzled
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:55 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

Worst case: the top 3 WRs and Alt are taken along with 4 QBs by the time the Bears pick. What then? Maybe trade to the 12 to 14 range for a team looking for the top CB, an OT, or someone wanting to roll the dice on Nix/Penix and get another 3rd? Trade down to 16 to 19 and get a 2nd? I'm in the mino...
by Grizzled
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:55 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?
Replies: 432
Views: 11912

Re: Is It Too Soon For Thoughts On Pick #9?

Worst case: the top 3 WRs and Alt are taken along with 4 QBs by the time the Bears pick. What then? Maybe trade to the 12 to 14 range for a team looking for the top CB, an OT, or someone wanting to roll the dice on Nix/Penix and get another 3rd? Trade down to 16 to 19 and get a 2nd? I'm in the minor...
by Grizzled
Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:52 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Offensive Line thoughts
Replies: 118
Views: 6973

Re: Offensive Line thoughts

Am I the only one who think Bates starts at center? I don't think Poles tried to sign him a year or two ago and then traded for him to have him be a back up. BJones, Jenkins, Bates, Davis, Wright. I like that lineup alot and it should be better than last season. I think Davis is going to have a mon...
by Grizzled
Sun Apr 07, 2024 10:15 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Caleb Williams News and Rumor thread
Replies: 2180
Views: 42035

Re: Caleb Williams News and Rumor thread

The Bears have also researched Caleb's father, Carl, and his role in supporting his son. Dad almost never attended USC practices, once last year. He did not make nor try to influence Caleb in football matters. His role is ensuring that his son has the most opportunities to be successful. As such, h...
by Grizzled
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:14 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Offensive Line thoughts
Replies: 118
Views: 6973

Re: Offensive Line thoughts

This year, there's perhaps 5 to 7 1st round OTs who will be available: Alt, Olu, Fuaga, Fatanu, Latham, Mimms, and Guyton. There are 2 IOL guys rated in the 1st round (JPP and Barton), perhaps another 1 or 2 in the 2nd round; the Bears signed one year rentals at C in free agency. The Bears have to b...
by Grizzled
Sun Apr 07, 2024 9:08 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: Caleb Williams News and Rumor thread
Replies: 2180
Views: 42035

Re: Caleb Williams News and Rumor thread

The Bears have also researched Caleb's father, Carl, and his role in supporting his son. Dad almost never attended USC practices, once last year. He did not make nor try to influence Caleb in football matters. His role is ensuring that his son has the most opportunities to be successful. As such, he...
by Grizzled
Sat Apr 06, 2024 1:09 pm
Forum: The BFO Lounge
Topic: Your Favorite Pink Floyd Song
Replies: 15
Views: 3995

Re: Your Favorite Pink Floyd Song

For many years, I've lamented the lack of live recordings of old Floyd stuff before Meddle. Maybe somewhere there is a live recording of Atom Heart Mother performed with an orchestra; I could die a happpy man if so. But I just discovered Nick Mason's 'Live At the Roundhouse', recorded live in 2018. ...
by Grizzled
Sat Apr 06, 2024 10:34 am
Forum: Halas Hall
Topic: I think we Bears fans are traumatized
Replies: 76
Views: 1927

Re: I think we Bears fans are traumatized

Boys, we have a decade of good football in front of us. Let's enjoy it and kick the shit out of the Packers for a while and get back on top of that all time head to head matchup, where we fucking belong. Please let this be true. I am so damn tired of the Packers and more so of their elitist, spoile...