Posted in a few threads

I’m backing out of a few of these discussions for a while as I’ve had my say and I’m bringing myself and everyone else on the board down.
I’m pissed off about a few things, not just Bears stuff, so I’ll back off a bit.

Sorry for my self-indulgent morose.

Posted in a couple of threads

I’m backing out of a few of these discussions for a while as I’ve had my say and I’m bringing myself and everyone else on the board down.
I’m pissed off about a few things, not just Bears stuff, so I’ll back off a bit.

Sorry for my self-indulgent morose.

I’m backing out of a few of these discussions for a while as I’ve had my say and I’m bringing myself and everyone else on the board down.
I’m pissed off about a few things, not just Bears stuff, so I’ll back off a bit.

Sorry for my self-indulgent morose.

Where was the context and nuance when Ryan Poles confidently stated “we’re going to take back the North and we’re not giving it back”? In sports you live and die by how you perform against expectations. He shouldn’t proclaim such things if he’s going to do the exact opposite. Before Poles, the last...

wab wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:09 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 2:06 pm

To be perfectly pedantic - he didn't say when we would take it, only that when we eventually did we wouldn't give it back.

It would have been better if he said "we are really gonna heckin try to take back the north, but I'm not making promises".

He’d still be failing

Where was the context and nuance when Ryan Poles confidently stated “we’re going to take back the North and we’re not giving it back”? In sports you live and die by how you perform against expectations. He shouldn’t proclaim such things if he’s going to do the exact opposite. Before Poles, the last...

Or 2023 Or 2024 Man, context and nuance isn't really a thing around here lately. Where was the context and nuance when Ryan Poles confidently stated “we’re going to take back the North and we’re not giving it back”? In sports you live and die by how you perform against expectations. He shouldn’t pr...

I mean I don’t know what “restructuring the corporate side of the team” means.

It certainly sounds like management speak for “wasted a lot of time in meetings taking things away and looking at them for the next meeting”.

Wage versus performance is not looking good for him

My biggest concern is that Poles is being undermined by Warren and won't be allowed to make decisions for himself. Your biggest concern is that Poles IS being undermined by Warren? Or MAY be undermined by Warren? I ask because I haven't read or heard anything indicating he is being undermined. Warr...

wab wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 1:36 pm The Bears weren't winning the North in 2022.

Or 2023

Or 2024

It’s like I said, “zero hope” has never been put forward. Zero hope of making a significant upgrade to the O line this offseason using the draft or free agency - would be a more accurate reflection of my position. You can make a 5-10% upgrade, maybe, if you get lucky. A significant upgrade? The tale...

Still think the jury is out and as UOK said - the next coaching hire will weigh heavily.

He said he’d take back the North, we’re going to be 4th place for each of his 3 years so far and this year we are a long way short.

He's got to make some progress with that.

wab wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:59 am

Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 10:56 am Well I think the jury is still out on whether Poles deserves to be fired. I wouldn’t say anything was certain.

He didn't deserve to be fired last year when all of this was happening (or not happening - depending on who you believe).

When we “take back the North” I’ll give him his due

Well I think the jury is still out on whether Poles deserves to be fired. I wouldn’t say anything was certain.

All we can hope for is that the McCaskeys accept that they need a Kevin Warren type to right the ship and will follow his lead. I'm not at all sold on Kevin Warren. There's something about him and the way he speaks using management clichés that doesn't sit well with me. That video they released sho...

I mean PFF rankings and O line just do not pass the eye test. Wasn’t Sam Mustipher rated as the number 1 pass protector for some time? I think he was. There may have been some good guards in FA last season, but there won’t be this off season. Poles has few options to significantly upgrade the O line...

Yea I get it. Where my opinion differs is I think the unit is more fixable than you do. I think we’ve suffered from having a very weak “weakest link” and once we address that it’ll all suddenly look better. That and some better luck on the injury front. I genuinely believe this exact OL with Trey S...

15M avg over 3-4 years? I’d pay that. Poles can’t allow himself to get constantly outbid for offensive lineman - market speaks and he needs to pay market price like he does at WR and CB and LB. It’s been my chief complaint about Poles since he got here. I share DDs frustration. My frustration is ba...

Wonder what’s going on with Brisker

Edit - on IR until week 16

I just don’t see Wright or Tev as “top shelf starters”.
They wouldn’t get on Detroit or Philly’s O line.
Trey Smith will probably be tagged by KC if not re-signed.

Wow the odds must be astronomical as @wab says 99.99999% of people disagree with me. You found the one in 10 million who does :lol: No. They disagree with your weird stance that the entire landscape of available players is completely devoid of talent and that they ONLY WAY that the bears can upgrad...

People get the draft wrong all the time. The year Fields came out was supposed to be a abundance of riches at QB and look how they all turned out. Is anyone but Lawrence with their original team? There's talented lineman in this draft, it's on Poles to identify them and turn them into Bears. It's t...

Moriarty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 2:12 pm

Kiper didn't like OT and didn't mention IOL either way (so is that average?)

Wow the odds must be astronomical as @wab says 99.99999% of people disagree with me.

You found the one in 10 million who does

dplank wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:45 pm We have Wright who is pretty good and should be even better next season. Bates is a borderline starter / high caliber backup and should be healthy next year. Jones is a low end starter and would be a very high end swing T if he ended up there.

I believe this mentality is why we are where we are

wab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:27 pm

Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:23 pm

It’s all relative of course.

I want a Oline befitting of our QB.
If you want a mediocre Oline then the talent is there.

The 99.99999% of people who get paid to do NFL things disagree with you wholeheartedly.

1 in 10 million eh?

Time will tell

The talent is not there, we’re better off trading our picks for someone decent I preface this with the statement that I'm not trolling you. At all. But this hard stance is silly. There is talent in the draft. There is talent in FA. There is talent on the Bears. It’s all relative of course. I want a...

Talent isn’t there, unless you do a crazy trade It takes two to tango DD, who is going to trade their top shelf OL to us? It's not a realistic plan IMO. If we can make something happen via trade, fantastic I'm in full support. But it's really unlikely that we're going to convince the Lions to trade...

G08 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 1:15 pm

Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:48 pm

Talent isn’t there, unless you do a crazy trade

A lot of draft pundits disagree with you my friend

Yeah but bigging up the draft is their job

G08 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:45 pm

I'm a broken record: 4 picks in the top 75 and $84M+ in cap space.

Beef up the iOL and get a stud pass rusher either at end or DT.

Talent isn’t there, unless you do a crazy trade

wab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:48 am

dplank wrote: ↑Wed Dec 04, 2024 9:26 am

So if neither draft nor FA can fix it, should we just quit and retire the franchise?

Right. Trey Smith is like 26 years old and the Chiefs aren’t going to be able to keep everyone.

I predict they’ll keep him, probably on a tag if he doesn’t sign