That's where his level of competence ends. He's already 1 level above it and they're thinking of making it 2. You and everyone else complaining about promoting Pace are assuming identical skill sets required for the positions. I.e. if you're a good GM, you have to be a GREAT GM to be the President ...

From the other thread. Who do you think is among the worst NFL franchises? Give 1-10 choices. And EXPLAIN WHY Criteria is mostly for how they run their team and the results it generates. We're not talking 1-4 year short-term behavior, and we're not talking about what happened in the 50s, we're talki...

This idea keeps surfacing and no matter how much criticism it draws, it always resurfaces again. What has Ryan Pace been bad at and which of those things are showing improvement? He's been bad at: 1) Trading away picks, primarily in tradeups. 2) Bad contracts & cap management 3) High draft picks...

No way can the Bears as an organization reward Pace by "kicking him upstairs" or retaining him in his present position. The only possible move would be a Director of Scouting or somesuch. That's where his level of competence ends. He's already 1 level above it and they're thinking of maki...

Hema2.0 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 7:54 pm

Moriarty wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:47 pm

Don't forget comfort level.
The Chicago Bears also suck as a franchise because comfort is a top factor in crucial decisions.

Are the Raiders that much better of an organization?

I'm not sure if they're higher or lower than Chicago, but they're certainly lower half.

Angelo forgot to check a box on a draft day trade with Baltimore which resulted in giving Warrick Holdman away for free. Closer. He missed the check box, lost the ability to retain Holdman cheaply, panicked, gave Holdman a big contract to spare the embarrassment of losing him over the mistake. Then...

dplank wrote: ↑Fri Jan 07, 2022 6:16 pm Typical Bears. We flounder with indecision while other teams pounce. It’s why we are who we are.

Don't forget comfort level.
The Chicago Bears also suck as a franchise because comfort is a top factor in crucial decisions.

Additionally, there's a significant amount of people on this board that think Pace is a clueless bumbling idiot that can't evaluate talent, throws away picks, and doles out terrible contracts. So what difference does it make if the Bears have 50 million in space or 150 million? If you don't trust t...

What is the minimal risk of restructures? Restructuring base salaries. The first downside scenario is that in a trade, the other team would absorb base salaries. As soon as you convert salary to a bonus, you will absorb the cap hit in a trade. However, as we saw with the Rams-Broncos trade of Von M...

TheWorldBreaker wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:19 pm

Local guys have asked more national guys how Pace is viewed around the league.
I've not heard any answer besides "not well" or "below average".

What really frustrated me about that game, apart from the obvious, was Nagy ignoring Jordan Howard who had finally got rolling in the last third of the regular season. Over the last 5 games he'd put up the following numbers: 41% of offensive snaps, 16 carries, 76 yards, 4.8ypc, 55% of offensive sna...

I hear Antonio brown is a free agent. :D I realize he's a slow Caucasion type of guy, but doggone it how about Jesper in the slot? I would not split him wide but he could own the middle of the field as well as be a safety outlet dancing on the sidelines. He'd be the only receiver with size (6'4&quo...

Yeah, I have no interest in seeing him close out Nagy's Farewell Tour, either.

No need to rush him back on the ankle.

Before people start lamenting how great that season "should have been", let me point out that the Bears were super mega colossally insanely lucky all year with turnovers. The bad luck of Parkey suddenly hitting crossbars all the time was bizarre, but didn't come anywhere close to balancing...

Well, at least we'll get to watch Horsted get some valuable reps this w... Roster moves: In other news Wednesday, the Bears placed tight end Jesper Horsted on injured reserve, put practice squad linebacker Charles Snowden on the reserve/COVID-19 list and signed cornerback Stanford Samuels to the pra...

This is my take on his experience as well. To be honest, I'd rather have a guy that has made his mistakes and is clearly on a trajectory of improvement. Bring a new GM in here, and we get to watch him make all of the same mistakes again. There's no reason to expect that. Admittedly, I don't follow ...

Ah, I see a lot of my favorites surfacing elsewhere. I went https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/ this time, for something new, even though I think mockdatabase is still the best. Went no trade - not really deliberately, but I'm not passing on McCreary in 2 and they have Patterson high enoug...

I’d rather have the higher second round pick (lose). Come April, we will all be hand wringing hoping some guy falls to us and every slot will matter. What value the Giants get from our pick is meaningless now. Absolutely. 3-4 spots at the top of R2 can matter a lot. May be the difference between Mc...

The Cooler King wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:44 am

Now that this decision has been leaked, are the Bears going to have to go back on it again?

Artbest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:28 pm They'll have to extend him, unless the new head coach is hired directly by George and leapfrogs the failed GM in the football ops hierarchy

Or - unless his secret extension already runs a lot longer than we've been speculating.

Good GMs find a way to keep their good draft picks. We've lost Fuller, Floyd, Amos, even guys like Howard. People can get as happy as they want to that Quinn has set a new franchise sack record in a nothing burger season but I'll remain salty that we lost good young players that we drafted in order...

If this is the case, Daniels can go and the Bears can just take the comp pick... https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/james-daniels-contract-extension-free-agency/ I've been saying for a long time he's liable to get a big offer that makes you not want to match. He is young and solid. But 10M/yr f...

Agreed, I'm not tied to either side for those two. I'd like Daniels back, but it really comes down to cost. I'm not tied to Whitehair staying, but depends on how Daniels and the G/C market shakes out. While I'd like a draft pick not sure I want to count on finding a starter based on where there sel...

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Some of those guys - Arob, Hicks, and Peters - won't be back. The rest? Well if they are key pieces as you say...being "overpaid" is relative. But when some of those guys won't be back, then TMP's point of "imagine what a good coach could have done with this team" becomes a lot ...

If you want to build a team positioned for the future then you also have to want to do a rebuild with Fields on his rookie deal when he’s the cheapest. That time period is actually when you should be spending money on other players Should be, ideally. But you can't spend as much as you'd like, beca...

@IE I don’t think we need a rebuild either. Obviously we need an HC but other than that. 1 or 2 good guys for the OL. A #2 WR thinking Mooney becomes #1 after ARob leaves. A good CB. We were such a disorganized disaster this year and it all falls on Nagy yet we’ve won 6 games. If we could get a new...

Wounded Bear wrote: ↑Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:52 pm Excitable boy, they all said...

He's definitely progressed to verse 2 level miscreancy.
Can he take the next step?

PFR has Tonga down for 1/21/8 (O/D/ST)