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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:31 am 
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Not gonna lie, my only thought was "Oh good I've heard of him."

I know he had a battle with cancer, and that's why Arians was interim head coach and led to his job with the Cardinals.


That was the only good year the Colts had while he was there, is when he was gone with Cancer.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:56 am 
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Pagano was also my "on deck" guy following Donatell.

I'm gonna guess that A) Donatell would not commit before considering Denver, and B) Pace was not willing to delay a decision for that and risk losing Pagano.

Can't say that I blame Donatell. He and Vic have coached together for quite awhile and have had much success as a duo so why wouldn't he want to keep that relationship intact. I may be wrong but I'm thinking the DC job in Denver is his provided he passes Elway's muster.

Pagano has been an excellent secondary coach himself so in that regard we have a guy who can somewhat replace Donatell's influence and we seem to be sticking with Italians as well. LOL

I like the hire.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:26 am 
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I'm not sure what to think of this right now. He did some great things Baltimore that year. I don't think Indy had the players to field a great defense to begin with so I'm not sure how much he's to blame for their performance.

Hopefully he comes in here and we don't lose a step. With our schedule next year we're going to need all the help we can get.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:27 am 
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Just woke up to the news here in the UK. Relieved that the Bears have pulled the trigger rather than play the risky waiting game with teams still alive in the playoffs. Obviously I'd love to have kept Vic, but having read the bio on Pagano on the Bears app, I'm pretty happy. Sounds like a really good fit.
I cannot imagine how excited he must be to get to play with his new toys! But how frustrating to have to wait a few months to get the key to the toy cupboard!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:42 am 
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The Marshall Plan wrote:
I'm not sure what to think of this right now. He did some great things Baltimore that year. I don't think Indy had the players to field a great defense to begin with so I'm not sure how much he's to blame for their performance.

Hopefully he comes in here and we don't lose a step. With our schedule next year we're going to need all the help we can get.


I get what you're saying and sure, the Bears will have a 1st place schedule next year. But judging next year's schedule against last year's is always a misleading business. So much can change in free agency and the draft and with coaching moves. Top teams from one year can have a drop off in the next - GB and Minny for example. And teams that have been in 4th place for 4 years can rise up and win the division with a 12-4 record! Hehe! :)

The Bears finishing in 1st place only affects 6 of the 16 games in next year's schedule anyway. They would face the NFCN and AFCW in any event. The only difference is that they'll play the top teams in the other NFC divisions.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the Bears take on the stronger teams next season. Roll on September!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:13 am 
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Thanks for that read. I only really know him from his HC past. Sounds like it might be a smooth transfer

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:22 am 
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Well, he should have to learn our terminology etc..why teach the whole D when you can just make the coach learn? :P

Hope it works out


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He’s the DC, trust him to do his thing. Asking the coach to come in and “fit in” is what got Mel Tucker into trouble. He was running half of his D and half of Lovies. Nobody was on the same page.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:24 am 
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Well I got too much going on to dig into this too much, but Chuck took over the Raven's Superbowl defense that was compared to the Bears '85 team for greatness. While it was still very good the following year, there were some areas that the team slipped. One was turnover margin. Bal went from 1st overall in '00 to 23rd in '01. Now was that from the offense fumbling and throwing INT's way more, or the defense just not getting the TO's it did the year before? Our team feasted off TO's this year and a major drop will make us look closer to average, especially against the schedule we have in 2019.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:28 am 
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cblaz11 wrote:
Umbali wrote:
Well, he should have to learn our terminology etc..why teach the whole D when you can just make the coach learn? :P

Hope it works out


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He’s the DC, trust him to do his thing. Asking the coach to come in and “fit in” is what got Mel Tucker into trouble. He was running half of his D and half of Lovies. Nobody was on the same page.


Good coordinators don't come into the #1 defense and change a bunch of shit just to stroke their ego. Chuck is considered a players' coach, so I don't expect him to muck up too much. But almost every defense will change their calls from year to year (and game to game for divisional opponents), or teams will know what the defense is adjusting to and where the blitz is coming from. The oly calls that stay the same are the Payton Manning "Omaha" dummy calls.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:42 am 
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I'm kinda warming to this selection, but more so as a relief that we didn't take one of the Ryan's. I don't really have a good feel of how to evaluate this one. The year in Baltimore was nice, but their coaches and players tend to do less well when they leave. In Indy he didn't have the defensive talent to work with, so it is hard to really evaluate. My biggest concern with this hire though is Pagano's ambitions or loyalties. One great way to fuck up Nagy's tenure is to waste the defensive talent by having our DC leave every year to become an HC, and never let the D side grow in system continuity, and constantly have those players in emotional flux. It would be the reverse of the OC carousel that characterized Lovie's years. I've a bad feeling Pagano is just using us as a stepping stone and next year we are right back in this spot.


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