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Didnt he miss a PAT in the last preason game? An extra point?

Dudes got the heebie jeebies, personally dont hate releasing him. They'll find someonez
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RING4CHI wrote:Connor Barth is your mystery kicker per Biggs.
30 years old..
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docc wrote:
RING4CHI wrote:Connor Barth is your mystery kicker per Biggs.
30 years old..
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2014 Denver 15/16
2015 Tampa 23/28
He was my guess, too. Next step in Fox's quest to bring his old team East.
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docc wrote:
RING4CHI wrote:Connor Barth is your mystery kicker per Biggs.
30 years old..
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2014 Denver 15/16
2015 Tampa 23/28
I really thought the Bears would try to go younger. Much younger.
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Barth will sign tomorrow. Probably 1 year deal.
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Forgot that Barth has a long experience/rapport with LS Aaron Brewer from their Bronco days.
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I don't love it. I don't hate it.
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I'm guessing if he sucks/costs the Bears a game in their first 4, they'll cut him and sign somebody else.
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My initial reaction was "I don't like it"

But kicker is such a 'mental' position....it Fox and Company that he was broke/done.....who am I to argue.
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Anyone know how many touchbacks Barth had last year? I feel like that's something Gould struggled with. Just couldn't kick it out of the end zone.
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dumb... Slauson 2.0

A couple bad kicking games in years has just become a guarantee of bad kicking at least a couple times a year.
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Didn't see this one coming. Hopefully Gould saved money to feed his family during his lay off.
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mmmc_35 wrote:Didn't see this one coming. Hopefully Gould saved money to feed his family during his lay off.

He's still cashing checks from his e-trade commercial.
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I wanted Gould cut after the second miss in Minnesota. This is about 8 months too late in my opinion.
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BPo001 wrote:Anyone know how many touchbacks Barth had last year? I feel like that's something Gould struggled with. Just couldn't kick it out of the end zone.
50%. 32 of 64 kickoffs went for touchbacks.

Gould was at about 47%.
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RING4CHI wrote:
BPo001 wrote:Anyone know how many touchbacks Barth had last year? I feel like that's something Gould struggled with. Just couldn't kick it out of the end zone.
50%. 32 of 64 kickoffs went for touchbacks.

Gould was at about 47%.
Plus...with the new 25 yard line rule.....do we know they are even going to 'want' touch-backs.
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Wow. Don't like it. Barth better do the job or Pace looks like a knucklehead.

What does anybody care what Gould's touchback numbers were? With the new 25-yard line touchbacks, it incentivized teams to kick the ball short enough to entice a team to run it back and catch them before they get to the 25. Kicking it to about the goal line achieves that.
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DaDitka wrote:
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BPo001 wrote:Anyone know how many touchbacks Barth had last year? I feel like that's something Gould struggled with. Just couldn't kick it out of the end zone.
50%. 32 of 64 kickoffs went for touchbacks.

Gould was at about 47%.
Plus...with the new 25 yard line rule.....do we know they are even going to 'want' touch-backs.
You're going to see a lot of kickoffs pooched into about a 4-yard window. Between the 2-yard line and two yards deep into the endzone. Dare the returner to bring it out or guarantee themselves 25 yards.
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wab wrote:I wanted Gould cut after the second miss in Minnesota. This is about 8 months too late in my opinion.
Same. His misses in 2015 were killer.

I was done with him after the 49ers game. The Bears, shitty as they were, had no business losing to Jim fucking Tomsula and Blaine fucking Gabbert last season. Yet Gould just pissed the game away. He did it against Washington later in the year too. It's like what the hell are we paying you all this money, one of the highest K contracts in the NFL, for when you don't do shit when it matters?
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BPo001 wrote:Anyone know how many touchbacks Barth had last year? I feel like that's something Gould struggled with. Just couldn't kick it out of the end zone.

This is a very fair point.

Especially considering the new kickoff rules. During preseason games, kicking on a shorter field Gould was still landing kicks shy or just across the goal line.

Field position is going to be huge for any team that's playing in close games & I'm guessing the coaches know that our ST units are going to struggle in the first few games= kickoffs need to be unreturnable.
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It surprised the heck out of me. I can understand it though. Lately his nick name in the chat room has been Robbie Shankar. I wish him the best, he's been good Chicago Bear!
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Yep..agreed.. A Great Bear..but time moves on..
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though I was surprised by this announcement, I had a bad feeling after the missed extrapoint in the last preseason game.

I hope the Bears under Fox will be luckier than under Lovie in the 'Bringing his buddies home' pattern.
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I'm gutted that we have let Robbie go from a meatball fan view but I can see why from a franchise view! If I have lost confidence in him recently then John fox seriously must have and once your H/C loses confidence in the kicker it's lights out!

Is Barth better? No and this is now going to be a hot seat of mediocrity! Expect a short leash to the kickers gentlemen.
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wab wrote:I wanted Gould cut after the second miss in Minnesota. This is about 8 months too late in my opinion.
Agreed. His arrow was pointing down after last season, and missing an XP (even if it was in pre-season) was the cherry on top.

Thanks for the memories, not sad at all to see him go.
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GSH wrote:Didnt he miss a PAT in the last preason game? An extra point?

Dudes got the heebie jeebies, personally dont hate releasing him. They'll find someonez
He missed 2 PATs last week. Singlehandedly cost us 2 wins for certain last season and possibly another close game where he missed a kick. That's unacceptable when he's getting paid the GDP of a small country.

He's a legend of the club for sure but misplaced loyalty to underperforming veterans is what kept us from rebuilding for so long.

Barth isn't an elite kicker but his stats over the last 2 years are pretty close to Robbie's and he's worked with our long snapper in the past so they should be able to get up to speed pretty quickly.
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I said this last year. When a kicker starts to lose his confidence, its possible that it just never comes back. Once they start questioining their aim, contact point, etc. They're done. I think he lost it after the Minny game, and never really got it back.
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The timing here is so strange I'm getting the feeling there was a convo between Gould and Pace that got weird. Or Gould and Fox? Robbie was such a big voice in the locker room and he was a Lovie guy...


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crueltyabc wrote:The timing here is so strange I'm getting the feeling there was a convo between Gould and Pace that got weird. Or Gould and Fox? Robbie was such a big voice in the locker room and he was a Lovie guy...


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I wonder if it coincided with his poor performance against Cleveland as well as the fact that Connor Barth was made available.
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