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Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:05 pm
by Hematite
G08 wrote:
Hematite wrote:
G08 wrote:
Hematite wrote:
wab wrote:
crueltyabc wrote:I think I’ve been less impressed than a lot of guys on this board but see no reason to believe he will be bad. If it turns out he’s a serviceable game manager type guy, then at least we have a cheap one for a few years while we look to add weapons around him etc. considering how often guys are just straight busts, I’m not complaining


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I think you saw him get more comfortable yesterday. He doesn't have great pocket awareness, and you can tell his timing with the merry go round or WR's is off...but I think that will come with experience and a consistent group of weapons. I'm just glad they finally opened it up a bit for him.
He can be our Alex Smith and I would be more than OK with that. But even Alex needed the right coaching to reach his potential. Does anybody really believe this staff can do that for Trubs?
Nope... but know who has been working daily with Alex Smith?

Matt Nagy.
An Andy Reid disciple with Mitch Trubisky could be a match made in heaven. I'd go balls to the walls if this were to happen!
It's worth a look, I would think. The guy played the position and has been with Reid for 10 seasons.
Good or bad, I see Carmichael Jr. as being more in line with Pace. It's a copycat league and Pace has done nothing to hide his copying of the Saints blueprint. I believe Carmichael Jr. runs a Coryell based offense, whereas Nagy obviously is west coast. With Trubisky's talents and factoring in the weather in Chicago, which system do you all believe would work best here?

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:18 pm
by Funkster
With the way the saints are running the ball and staying somewhat balanced on offense lately, Carmichael is intriguing. I'm just not sure if he's HC material?

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:33 pm
by Mikefive
Atkins&Rebel wrote:I think Trubisky's main problem is two-fold IMO.t

1. He has a conservative coach who is handcuffing him and telling him to stick to the play...maybe for good reason, but at some point Fox and Loggains need to just turn him loose and hope he grows from his mistakes on turnovers, instead of the lack of them by eating the ball when he could throw it away or force a ball and try to let his receiver make a play.

2. Nothing in this offense is natural to him yet.

He has to think about all the verbiage; he has to think about keeping his mechanics just right; he has to think about where the receivers are supposed to be in each play and then adjust to where they actually are; he has to think about pressure and protections and he has to think about not making turnovers and trying to gauge when it's OK to take a shot on any given play.

None of this is 2nd nature to him yet, especially given how much he has to worry about playing in the conservative format Fox has dictated.
Excellent points. I'd add that certain necessary "time" skills just aren't natural to him yet. Like having to get rid of the ball before "thousand five". And processing the pre-snap stuff while keeping an eye on the play clock.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:46 pm
by G08
Hematite wrote:
G08 wrote:
Hematite wrote:
G08 wrote:
Hematite wrote:
wab wrote: I think you saw him get more comfortable yesterday. He doesn't have great pocket awareness, and you can tell his timing with the merry go round or WR's is off...but I think that will come with experience and a consistent group of weapons. I'm just glad they finally opened it up a bit for him.
He can be our Alex Smith and I would be more than OK with that. But even Alex needed the right coaching to reach his potential. Does anybody really believe this staff can do that for Trubs?
Nope... but know who has been working daily with Alex Smith?

Matt Nagy.
An Andy Reid disciple with Mitch Trubisky could be a match made in heaven. I'd go balls to the walls if this were to happen!
It's worth a look, I would think. The guy played the position and has been with Reid for 10 seasons.
Good or bad, I see Carmichael Jr. as being more in line with Pace. It's a copycat league and Pace has done nothing to hide his copying of the Saints blueprint. I believe Carmichael Jr. runs a Coryell based offense, whereas Nagy obviously is west coast. With Trubisky's talents and factoring in the weather in Chicago, which system do you all believe would work best here?
We've tried both in Chicago... I'd prefer Nagy only because it *should* be similar verbiage and footwork for Trubisky. Payton I don't believe employs the various drops that Martz did when he brought his Coryell system here.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:25 pm
by Funkster
Nagy? Really? I just don't see him having enough experience as an OC let alone promoting him to a HC.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:23 pm
by Pagan
1st if all:
Everyone has the right to be potentially salty after a loss, & the title of the post shouldn't be off limits, who knows... Maybe Trib Ain't that good..
(Only Time will tell)

2ndly:
Don't create thoughtlessly controversial, emotionally driven, overreaction posts.
Please.

(This post is CLEARLY all of those things)

Last Point:
Good for you; you got yourself a 6+ thread with your name next to it!
Don't confuse # of responses with popularity.
This isn't the kind of attention that you'll enjoy for long.

I look forward to reading less dumb things from some of you sooner.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:49 pm
by 46Blitz
Pagan wrote:1st if all:
Everyone has the right to be potentially salty after a loss, & the title of the post shouldn't be off limits, who knows... Maybe Trib Ain't that good..
(Only Time will tell)

2ndly:
Don't create thoughtlessly controversial, emotionally driven, overreaction posts.
Please.

(This post is CLEARLY all of those things)

Last Point:
Good for you; you got yourself a 6+ thread with your name next to it!
Don't confuse # of responses with popularity.
This isn't the kind of attention that you'll enjoy for long.

I look forward to reading less dumb things from some of you sooner.
Yup.

I really have no problem in what I am seeing. AT ALL.

We are seeing someone develop, and that's a good thing. Pretty sure he could go out there and sling the ball aroundd but what can come of that? A few more TDs mixed in with 2ints a game? Only time will tell with any developing rookie QBs. He may not be "winning games" for the Bears, but he isn't loosing them either. As a fan, I actually look forward to games on sundays now. Not because I expect a win or see anything of greatness of sorts. But I get to watch someone progress, even if it's slow progress. Most of us are not delusional enough to think the Bears are going to win a championship this year. So this is kind of a perfect situation right now where your Potential Franchise QB is gaining a ton of experience without numbers good or bad, but he is still gaining knowledge. He has shown he has the skill so what they are doing with him is good IMO. For the long term.... loosing these games isn't a terrible thing either, the team has shown some things to be happy about. loosing these games stinks a bit but we will get a better draft pick so...

I don't know, my glass is 3/4 full and can give two shits what the negative Nancy's say at this point.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:32 pm
by o-pus #40 in B major
46Blitz wrote:
Pagan wrote:1st if all:
Everyone has the right to be potentially salty after a loss, & the title of the post shouldn't be off limits, who knows... Maybe Trib Ain't that good..
(Only Time will tell)

2ndly:
Don't create thoughtlessly controversial, emotionally driven, overreaction posts.
Please.

(This post is CLEARLY all of those things)

Last Point:
Good for you; you got yourself a 6+ thread with your name next to it!
Don't confuse # of responses with popularity.
This isn't the kind of attention that you'll enjoy for long.

I look forward to reading less dumb things from some of you sooner.
Yup.

I really have no problem in what I am seeing. AT ALL.

We are seeing someone develop, and that's a good thing. Pretty sure he could go out there and sling the ball aroundd but what can come of that? A few more TDs mixed in with 2ints a game? Only time will tell with any developing rookie QBs. He may not be "winning games" for the Bears, but he isn't loosing them either. As a fan, I actually look forward to games on sundays now. Not because I expect a win or see anything of greatness of sorts. But I get to watch someone progress, even if it's slow progress. Most of us are not delusional enough to think the Bears are going to win a championship this year. So this is kind of a perfect situation right now where your Potential Franchise QB is gaining a ton of experience without numbers good or bad, but he is still gaining knowledge. He has shown he has the skill so what they are doing with him is good IMO. For the long term.... loosing these games isn't a terrible thing either, the team has shown some things to be happy about. loosing these games stinks a bit but we will get a better draft pick so...

I don't know, my glass is 3/4 full and can give two shits what the negative Nancy's say at this point.
:clap:

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:44 pm
by PapaDongo
Not really trying to be overly negative and don't really need the lecture on making a thread or posting about a subject to whoever that guy was up above this post that is being super critical, but I do think ya gotta prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Just saying, Tru might never show anything unless the right stuff is around him. Bears need to get Tru consistency but he can't get anything like that his first year.

Then they fire the coaches? Tru will have a new system to learn. Tru will have to get his mechanics fixed, Tru will have to be coachable by a whole new staff. Then what happens if they don't get results, say it's freaking McDaniels? Now they start to ruin Tru like all the other QBs we've had since Jim Miller.

There are quarterbacks that come in and make wins happen, and there are projects. Tru needs some work.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:11 pm
by Hematite
PapaDongo wrote:Not really trying to be overly negative and don't really need the lecture on making a thread or posting about a subject to whoever that guy was up above this post that is being super critical, but I do think ya gotta prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Just saying, Tru might never show anything unless the right stuff is around him. Bears need to get Tru consistency but he can't get anything like that his first year.

Then they fire the coaches? Tru will have a new system to learn. Tru will have to get his mechanics fixed, Tru will have to be coachable by a whole new staff. Then what happens if they don't get results, say it's freaking McDaniels? Now they start to ruin Tru like all the other QBs we've had since Jim Miller.

There are quarterbacks that come in and make wins happen, and there are projects. Tru needs some work.
I agree! Switching to competent offensive coaches has done nothing good for Goff. I'd rather Trubisky hand off every first down and try his hardest to complete 3rd and longs his whole career while under pressure. Because that is the winning formula for developing a QB.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:27 pm
by PapaDongo
Hematite wrote:
PapaDongo wrote:Not really trying to be overly negative and don't really need the lecture on making a thread or posting about a subject to whoever that guy was up above this post that is being super critical, but I do think ya gotta prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Just saying, Tru might never show anything unless the right stuff is around him. Bears need to get Tru consistency but he can't get anything like that his first year.

Then they fire the coaches? Tru will have a new system to learn. Tru will have to get his mechanics fixed, Tru will have to be coachable by a whole new staff. Then what happens if they don't get results, say it's freaking McDaniels? Now they start to ruin Tru like all the other QBs we've had since Jim Miller.

There are quarterbacks that come in and make wins happen, and there are projects. Tru needs some work.
I agree! Switching to competent offensive coaches has done nothing good for Goff. I'd rather Trubisky hand off every first down and try his hardest to complete 3rd and longs his whole career while under pressure. Because that is the winning formula for developing a QB.
Yeah nice sarcasm but seriously do you think Bears can put together competent offensive staff and get it right next season, and that they can hold onto it? Tru needs work and it's gotta start soon and stick around if Tru is going to be a franchise QB.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:15 pm
by 46Blitz
Hematite wrote:
PapaDongo wrote:Not really trying to be overly negative and don't really need the lecture on making a thread or posting about a subject to whoever that guy was up above this post that is being super critical, but I do think ya gotta prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Just saying, Tru might never show anything unless the right stuff is around him. Bears need to get Tru consistency but he can't get anything like that his first year.

Then they fire the coaches? Tru will have a new system to learn. Tru will have to get his mechanics fixed, Tru will have to be coachable by a whole new staff. Then what happens if they don't get results, say it's freaking McDaniels? Now they start to ruin Tru like all the other QBs we've had since Jim Miller.

There are quarterbacks that come in and make wins happen, and there are projects. Tru needs some work.
I agree! Switching to competent offensive coaches has done nothing good for Goff. I'd rather Trubisky hand off every first down and try his hardest to complete 3rd and longs his whole career while under pressure. Because that is the winning formula for developing a QB.
Your freakin nuts, it did a ton for Goff!

Wait, I sense some sort of sarcasm there. Very well.....

To be honest, I'm neither here or there with change in coaching. The team has been hand tied for the whole season with lack of receiving options. Many times I have questioned some play calls. However I kinda get it to a degree. If it wasn't for a few stupid penalties and bad calls by refs, we could be looking at 3 more wins. The fact that they are working with what they got and playing a QB (earlier then they wanted) who is learning on the job, think they are doing ok under the circumstances.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:23 am
by Hematite
PapaDongo wrote:
Hematite wrote:
PapaDongo wrote:Not really trying to be overly negative and don't really need the lecture on making a thread or posting about a subject to whoever that guy was up above this post that is being super critical, but I do think ya gotta prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Just saying, Tru might never show anything unless the right stuff is around him. Bears need to get Tru consistency but he can't get anything like that his first year.

Then they fire the coaches? Tru will have a new system to learn. Tru will have to get his mechanics fixed, Tru will have to be coachable by a whole new staff. Then what happens if they don't get results, say it's freaking McDaniels? Now they start to ruin Tru like all the other QBs we've had since Jim Miller.

There are quarterbacks that come in and make wins happen, and there are projects. Tru needs some work.
I agree! Switching to competent offensive coaches has done nothing good for Goff. I'd rather Trubisky hand off every first down and try his hardest to complete 3rd and longs his whole career while under pressure. Because that is the winning formula for developing a QB.
Yeah nice sarcasm but seriously do you think Bears can put together competent offensive staff and get it right next season, and that they can hold onto it? Tru needs work and it's gotta start soon and stick around if Tru is going to be a franchise QB.
If Pace believes Mitch is the future, which he obviously does, then you find coaching that can bring out the best in him, they are out there. Developing a franchise QB is THE #1 priority in the NFL to becoming a legitimate contender every year and is the only way that Chicago gets out of the gutter it finds itself in every year.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:01 am
by Mikefive
Peyton Manning wasn't very good after 4-5 games either. Indy should've just cut him at that point.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:52 am
by Boris13c
Mikefive wrote:Peyton Manning wasn't very good after 4-5 games either. Indy should've just cut him at that point.

yeah ... and that bum Troy Aikman could only win 1 game his rookie year ... never should have gotten to come back for year 2, right?

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:55 am
by Hematite
Boris13c wrote:
Mikefive wrote:Peyton Manning wasn't very good after 4-5 games either. Indy should've just cut him at that point.

yeah ... and that bum Troy Aikman could only win 1 game his rookie year ... never should have gotten to come back for year 2, right?
Who is talking about cutting Trubisky? We all (most, anyways) believe in Trubisky but feel the coaching is hindering him. Is that illogical to think that way?

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:12 am
by Boris13c
Hematite wrote:
Boris13c wrote:
Mikefive wrote:Peyton Manning wasn't very good after 4-5 games either. Indy should've just cut him at that point.

yeah ... and that bum Troy Aikman could only win 1 game his rookie year ... never should have gotten to come back for year 2, right?
Who is talking about cutting Trubisky? We all (most, anyways) believe in Trubisky but feel the coaching is hindering him. Is that illogical to think that way?

you completely missed the sarcasm of those 2 posts

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:14 am
by Hematite
Boris13c wrote:
Hematite wrote:
Boris13c wrote:
Mikefive wrote:Peyton Manning wasn't very good after 4-5 games either. Indy should've just cut him at that point.

yeah ... and that bum Troy Aikman could only win 1 game his rookie year ... never should have gotten to come back for year 2, right?
Who is talking about cutting Trubisky? We all (most, anyways) believe in Trubisky but feel the coaching is hindering him. Is that illogical to think that way?

you completely missed the sarcasm of those 2 posts
My bad! Papa's title has me riled up!!

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:19 am
by Boris13c
upon further review, maybe this thread just ain't that good

* trashing a rookie QB for no legitimate reasons
* bitching about sacks and blaming the rookie QB rather than the O-Line
* hand wringing and moaning about a bunch of nonsense

Mitch Trubisky has NFL level talent and anyone who cannot see that is simply not paying attention

the Bears receivers are now improved thanks to Inman's arrival, but still grade out as a D with 3rd and 4th line guys as starters

the Bears offensive line was manhandled by Goon Bay, and has been an incomplete sporadic unit all season, which directly impacts the QB play

the Bears coaching staff showed they are no longer NFL caliber thanks to their game plans and in game failures, but of course that is Trubisky's fault right?

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:27 am
by PapaDongo
Boris13c wrote:upon further review, maybe this thread just ain't that good

* trashing a rookie QB for no legitimate reasons
* bitching about sacks and blaming the rookie QB rather than the O-Line
* hand wringing and moaning about a bunch of nonsense

Mitch Trubisky has NFL level talent and anyone who cannot see that is simply not paying attention

the Bears receivers are now improved thanks to Inman's arrival, but still grade out as a D with 3rd and 4th line guys as starters

the Bears offensive line was manhandled by Goon Bay, and has been an incomplete sporadic unit all season, which directly impacts the QB play

the Bears coaching staff showed they are no longer NFL caliber thanks to their game plans and in game failures, but of course that is Trubisky's fault right?

You really excell at putting words in people's mouth, I ain't blaming Tru I'm just saying he's not good yet and maybe he ain't never gonna be good if they can't get some continuity around him. It's not like I'm insulting your mom, it's just being objective that Tru don't look good yet and knowing the history of bears staff and talent, there needs to be dramatic change and then that change has to be focused and be in it for the long haul if Tru is gonna ever get good. Jeesh it's not like I ain't giving Tru a chance just saying he needs a lot and literally everyone can agree he needs OL, WR, OC, development, mechanics fixed, etc. That's a lot of CHIT that needs to happen in the next year if you want to see Tru turn into a decent qb, ain't it?

Don't hate the messenger.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:35 am
by Hematite
PapaDongo wrote:People want to blame Fox and Loggains and playcalling but maybe they don't want him passing because, well, he ain't that good a passer.

I thought this guy was supposed to be accurate but only half of his passes are accurate. So inconsistent.

At least he didn't turn it over, and only took one sack intentionally from what I saw. But at some point you have to find a guy instead of getting trophys for throwing the ball away or dirting it.

He is getting outplayed by backups, not a good look for a project that the GM trades up for.
These were your words and what has people riled up. Don't try to sugarcoat it!

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:43 am
by PapaDongo
Hematite wrote:
PapaDongo wrote:People want to blame Fox and Loggains and playcalling but maybe they don't want him passing because, well, he ain't that good a passer.

I thought this guy was supposed to be accurate but only half of his passes are accurate. So inconsistent.

At least he didn't turn it over, and only took one sack intentionally from what I saw. But at some point you have to find a guy instead of getting trophys for throwing the ball away or dirting it.

He is getting outplayed by backups, not a good look for a project that the GM trades up for.
These were your words and what has people riled up. Don't try to sugarcoat it!
Yeah but that was right after the game and obviously I've calmed down, even though it's harsh it's not like it ain't really true, just a little overly critical. If you gonna hold people to a single post then what is the point of dialogue?

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:53 am
by Hematite
PapaDongo wrote:
Hematite wrote:
PapaDongo wrote:People want to blame Fox and Loggains and playcalling but maybe they don't want him passing because, well, he ain't that good a passer.

I thought this guy was supposed to be accurate but only half of his passes are accurate. So inconsistent.

At least he didn't turn it over, and only took one sack intentionally from what I saw. But at some point you have to find a guy instead of getting trophys for throwing the ball away or dirting it.

He is getting outplayed by backups, not a good look for a project that the GM trades up for.
These were your words and what has people riled up. Don't try to sugarcoat it!
Yeah but that was right after the game and obviously I've calmed down, even though it's harsh it's not like it ain't really true, just a little overly critical. If you gonna hold people to a single post then what is the point of dialogue?
We all own those types of posts!

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:02 am
by Boris13c
PapaDongo wrote:
Boris13c wrote:upon further review, maybe this thread just ain't that good

* trashing a rookie QB for no legitimate reasons
* bitching about sacks and blaming the rookie QB rather than the O-Line
* hand wringing and moaning about a bunch of nonsense

Mitch Trubisky has NFL level talent and anyone who cannot see that is simply not paying attention

the Bears receivers are now improved thanks to Inman's arrival, but still grade out as a D with 3rd and 4th line guys as starters

the Bears offensive line was manhandled by Goon Bay, and has been an incomplete sporadic unit all season, which directly impacts the QB play

the Bears coaching staff showed they are no longer NFL caliber thanks to their game plans and in game failures, but of course that is Trubisky's fault right?

You really excell at putting words in people's mouth, I ain't blaming Tru
???

your entire fucking thread is blaming Trubisky

your words, not mine dippo

PapaDongo wrote:I'm just saying he's not good yet and maybe he ain't never gonna be good if they can't get some continuity around him. It's not like I'm insulting your mom, it's just being objective that Tru don't look good yet and knowing the history of bears staff and talent, there needs to be dramatic change and then that change has to be focused and be in it for the long haul if Tru is gonna ever get good. Jeesh it's not like I ain't giving Tru a chance just saying he needs a lot and literally everyone can agree he needs OL, WR, OC, development, mechanics fixed, etc. That's a lot of CHIT that needs to happen in the next year if you want to see Tru turn into a decent qb, ain't it?
I disagree with everything you've said and your attempts now to backtrack and tell us what you said isn't what you meant is bullshit

PapaDongo wrote:Don't hate the messenger.
kind of hard not to when the messenger is so unsavory

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:11 am
by wab
He looked pretty good Sunday when they finally let him play a little.

60% for 297 with a TD, no picks and a 97 rating is ok with me.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:16 am
by PapaDongo
Boris13c wrote:
PapaDongo wrote:
Boris13c wrote:upon further review, maybe this thread just ain't that good

* trashing a rookie QB for no legitimate reasons
* bitching about sacks and blaming the rookie QB rather than the O-Line
* hand wringing and moaning about a bunch of nonsense

Mitch Trubisky has NFL level talent and anyone who cannot see that is simply not paying attention

the Bears receivers are now improved thanks to Inman's arrival, but still grade out as a D with 3rd and 4th line guys as starters

the Bears offensive line was manhandled by Goon Bay, and has been an incomplete sporadic unit all season, which directly impacts the QB play

the Bears coaching staff showed they are no longer NFL caliber thanks to their game plans and in game failures, but of course that is Trubisky's fault right?

You really excell at putting words in people's mouth, I ain't blaming Tru
???

your entire fucking thread is blaming Trubisky

your words, not mine dippo

PapaDongo wrote:I'm just saying he's not good yet and maybe he ain't never gonna be good if they can't get some continuity around him. It's not like I'm insulting your mom, it's just being objective that Tru don't look good yet and knowing the history of bears staff and talent, there needs to be dramatic change and then that change has to be focused and be in it for the long haul if Tru is gonna ever get good. Jeesh it's not like I ain't giving Tru a chance just saying he needs a lot and literally everyone can agree he needs OL, WR, OC, development, mechanics fixed, etc. That's a lot of CHIT that needs to happen in the next year if you want to see Tru turn into a decent qb, ain't it?
I disagree with everything you've said and your attempts now to backtrack and tell us what you said isn't what you meant is bullshit

PapaDongo wrote:Don't hate the messenger.
kind of hard not to when the messenger is so unsavory

I don't know how someone's gonna dislike someone like this just because of a disagreement about a quarterback but I'm just gonna go ahead and take the high road and agree to disagree and not try to get into it with your replies going forward. Obviously ya haven't seen my thought progression and just are hating on the first thing you got upset about.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:39 am
by Boris13c
PapaDongo wrote:I don't know how someone's gonna dislike someone like this just because of a disagreement about a quarterback but I'm just gonna go ahead and take the high road and agree to disagree and not try to get into it with your replies going forward.
agree to disagree - cool

PapaDongo wrote:Obviously ya haven't seen my thought progression and just are hating on the first thing you got upset about.
I have seen all to well your alleged thought progression and it appears it is meant more to rile things up than to actually have a discussion

maybe that is not what you meant to have happen but it is how I read it

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:22 pm
by o-pus #40 in B major
Boris13c wrote:upon further review, maybe this thread just ain't that good

* trashing a rookie QB for no legitimate reasons
* bitching about sacks and blaming the rookie QB rather than the O-Line
* hand wringing and moaning about a bunch of nonsense

Mitch Trubisky has NFL level talent and anyone who cannot see that is simply not paying attention

the Bears receivers are now improved thanks to Inman's arrival, but still grade out as a D with 3rd and 4th line guys as starters

the Bears offensive line was manhandled by Goon Bay, and has been an incomplete sporadic unit all season, which directly impacts the QB play

the Bears coaching staff showed they are no longer NFL caliber thanks to their game plans and in game failures, but of course that is Trubisky's fault right?
yeah Boris that pretty well covers this fucked-up thread so I for one will leave it to dry up and blow away

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:15 pm
by PapaDongo
pus wrote:
Boris13c wrote:upon further review, maybe this thread just ain't that good

* trashing a rookie QB for no legitimate reasons
* bitching about sacks and blaming the rookie QB rather than the O-Line
* hand wringing and moaning about a bunch of nonsense

Mitch Trubisky has NFL level talent and anyone who cannot see that is simply not paying attention

the Bears receivers are now improved thanks to Inman's arrival, but still grade out as a D with 3rd and 4th line guys as starters

the Bears offensive line was manhandled by Goon Bay, and has been an incomplete sporadic unit all season, which directly impacts the QB play

the Bears coaching staff showed they are no longer NFL caliber thanks to their game plans and in game failures, but of course that is Trubisky's fault right?
yeah Boris that pretty well covers this fucked-up thread so I for one will leave it to dry up and blow away
Smell ya later.

Re: Maybe Trubisky just ain't that good.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:15 pm
by Pagan
* Apparently Needing To Be Reposted *

1st of all:
Everyone has the right to be potentially salty after a loss, & the title of the post shouldn't be off limits, who knows... Maybe Trib Ain't that good..
(Only Time will tell)

2ndly:
Don't create thoughtlessly controversial, emotionally driven, overreaction posts.
Please.

(This post is CLEARLY all of those things)

Last Point:
Good for you; you got yourself a 6+ thread with your name next to it!
Don't confuse # of responses with popularity.
This isn't the kind of attention that you'll enjoy for long.

I look forward to reading less dumb things from some of you sooner.

* Dong... This thread of yours isnt a difference of opinion. This is you acting like a troll, which won't be tolerated here. *

This thread is what NOT to do in a string of posts & is now locked.

We're hoping from here forward you understand the difference between playing devils advocate, debating different opinions & trolling.

If there's any further confusion about the differences in these 3 subjects= feel free to use a dictionary.