11.19.2017 // Loss - Bears 24, Lions 27

[Hematite]

27-13 Lions. Embarassment continues! Listening to Loggains in pressers, you want him to succeed, watching game day plays, you want to kill him!

[G08]

27-13 Lions. Embarassment continues! Listening to Loggains in pressers, you want him to succeed, watching game day plays, you want to kill him!

Seriously. His pressers are enjoyable and informative, he comes off as the kind of dude that I really want to pull for, so I do... but then the results happen.

[Hematite]

27-13 Lions. Embarassment continues! Listening to Loggains in pressers, you want him to succeed, watching game day plays, you want to kill him!

Seriously. His pressers are enjoyable and informative, he comes off as the kind of dude that I really want to pull for, so I do... but then the results happen.

He knows what he's talking about and he seems very confident in what he's doing. Maybe we're missing something. Maybe Trubisky really isn't ready for the bright lights and everything they are doing is actually the proper handling of him at this time. Or maybe he just hypnotized me like Shallow Hal and now I find him irresistable!

[UOK]

This has "pointless victory where suddenly team feels ship is righted but fans know better, because Bears will surely lose next game in embarrassing fashion" written all over it.

Bears 27
Lions 21

You were right last week and I fear you nailed this as well.

Just following the road map of mental and emotional scars of stupidity tracked across my brain from 17-odd years of watching this trash.

This has "pointless victory where suddenly team feels ship is righted but fans know better, because Bears will surely lose next game in embarrassing fashion" written all over it.

Bears 27
Lions 21

Bingo

This is just one of those games, where if you have followed this team close enough over the years... you just know it's one of "those" games. That we'll win, just because.

Then we'll proceed to get clown-stomped in Philly the following week.

Philly is going to punt the Bears straight in the sack. It's going to be a beating that will elicit redundant Tribune quotes from George McCaskey who will say, "I spoke with Mom, and she is pretty pissed off."

[G08]

Where the hell were you when I went on my pessimistic rant about this franchise!?

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I had a lot of optimism headed into the Packer game. But watching the way the coaching staff pissed away that opportunity, with a WHOLE BYE WEEK OF PREPARATION, I don't have a lot of faith right now. As the teams sit right now, the Lions are head and shoulders better than the Packers. This game doesn't go well. With Long out, and Leno struggling, this is going to be a jailbreak for the Lions. John Fox and the Bears will get ahead 3-0, five minutes into the first quarter, and spend the next 55 minutes trying not to lose, which doesn't work. Loggains strategy of run-run-pass-punt, fails to baffle the Lions defense. Stafford has a field day.

Lions - 30
Bears - 10

[Funkster]

27-13 Lions. Embarassment continues! Listening to Loggains in pressers, you want him to succeed, watching game day plays, you want to kill him!

Seriously. His pressers are enjoyable and informative, he comes off as the kind of dude that I really want to pull for, so I do... but then the results happen.

I've liked what he's done previously to this year. He's calling plays that are not his MO. I think Fox is in his ear and has him by the balls. He is so difficult to judge right now it's driving me bonkers. I'll keep giving him a pass until either Fox is gone or he starts to show more of his typical style of play calling. This staff obviously had a plan in play since Tru took over.

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

This has "pointless victory where suddenly team feels ship is righted but fans know better, because Bears will surely lose next game in embarrassing fashion" written all over it.

Bears 27
Lions 21

You were right last week and I fear you nailed this as well.

Just following the road map of mental and emotional scars of stupidity tracked across my brain from 17-odd years of watching this trash.

This has "pointless victory where suddenly team feels ship is righted but fans know better, because Bears will surely lose next game in embarrassing fashion" written all over it.

Bears 27
Lions 21

Bingo

This is just one of those games, where if you have followed this team close enough over the years... you just know it's one of "those" games. That we'll win, just because.

Then we'll proceed to get clown-stomped in Philly the following week.

Philly is going to punt the Bears straight in the sack. It's going to be a beating that will elicit redundant Tribune quotes from George McCaskey who will say, "I spoke with Mom, and she is pretty pissed off."

The Iggles are going to bury the Bears 6-feet under. It will be ugly on a 2014 Patriots/Green Bay level.

[GSH]

I think the Lions tear the Bears to shreds this week. I'll be watching / wincing in the gameday chat with everyone else.

Lions 38
Bears 10

[Otis Day]

Nothing to be optimistic about with this team. There has been no real consistency with this team. Injuries, guys playing multiple positions, play calling.............nothing says loss like that shit does.

Lions - 27
Bears - 9

[G08]

27-13 Lions. Embarassment continues! Listening to Loggains in pressers, you want him to succeed, watching game day plays, you want to kill him!

Seriously. His pressers are enjoyable and informative, he comes off as the kind of dude that I really want to pull for, so I do... but then the results happen.

I've liked what he's done previously to this year. He's calling plays that are not his MO. I think Fox is in his ear and has him by the balls. He is so difficult to judge right now it's driving me bonkers. I'll keep giving him a pass until either Fox is gone or he starts to show more of his typical style of play calling. This staff obviously had a plan in play since Tru took over.

Elaborate plz

[Funkster]

27-13 Lions. Embarassment continues! Listening to Loggains in pressers, you want him to succeed, watching game day plays, you want to kill him!

Seriously. His pressers are enjoyable and informative, he comes off as the kind of dude that I really want to pull for, so I do... but then the results happen.

I've liked what he's done previously to this year. He's calling plays that are not his MO. I think Fox is in his ear and has him by the balls. He is so difficult to judge right now it's driving me bonkers. I'll keep giving him a pass until either Fox is gone or he starts to show more of his typical style of play calling. This staff obviously had a plan in play since Tru took over.

Elaborate plz

I've been watching a lot of Jake Locker and how Loggains utilized him. He wasn't gun shy with his play calling. He mixed things up 2x2, 3x1, spread and mix in boots and a lot of play action. Locker averaged 28.5 attempts per game in 2012. Then I watch what he did with Hoyer, then Barkley. Basically the same system, personnel groupings and formations wise. Fast forward to Trubisky and Loggains became this conservative heavy set, bunch style of offense. His creativity basically vanished. Fox knew he's in the hot seat, this was labeled a must win win game for Fox. He had no choice but to let Loggains have some freedom. This past game vs. the pukes was basically the first time Loggains was allowed to get his creative juices flowing. Mixing up personal groupings, using Cohen in motion, 2x1 & 3x1 with horizontal and vertical routes, even play action out of the I. That TD (Tru to Bellamy) play Loggains drew was a thing of beauty. He was systematically creating green for these receivers and it showed in Trubisky stat line. If Fox allows Loggains to get Trubisky into a rhythm early and stay creative, Tru can be dangerous (he's pretty damn good when throwing on time) and this offense could take off.

[wab]

Agree with UOK. Just when fans get down on the team, they get things right for a week. Just long enough for them to pull the rug out. This will be one of those games like Carolina...they win decisively even if the score looks close.

Bears 23
Lions 16

[Boris13c]

Philly is going to punt the Bears straight in the sack. It's going to be a beating that will elicit redundant Tribune quotes from George McCaskey who will say, "I spoke with Mom, and she is pretty pissed off."

The Iggles are going to bury the Bears 6-feet under. It will be ugly on a 2014 Patriots/Green Bay level.

come on fuckers ... can we deal with 1 disaster at a time please?

[Boris13c]

27-13 Lions. Embarassment continues! Listening to Loggains in pressers, you want him to succeed, watching game day plays, you want to kill him!

Seriously. His pressers are enjoyable and informative, he comes off as the kind of dude that I really want to pull for, so I do... but then the results happen.

I've liked what he's done previously to this year. He's calling plays that are not his MO. I think Fox is in his ear and has him by the balls. He is so difficult to judge right now it's driving me bonkers. I'll keep giving him a pass until either Fox is gone or he starts to show more of his typical style of play calling. This staff obviously had a plan in play since Tru took over.

Elaborate plz

at this point I don't care how nice Loggains sounds or what a good guy he appears to be

what I see is his offense regularly running into the teeth of 9 (or more) man defensive fronts and then passing only in predictable passing situations (also helping the defense)

if it takes him being an asshole to make the offensive scheme better and up to NFL speed, then please, be an asshole

right now he is simply broadcasting to the defense what the Bears are up to and providing no alternative for the players on the field

[Richie]

I think the level of pessimism with the final score predictions is a bit over the top. In the NFL, you're never quite as bad (or as good) as you think you are. This is still the only team that gave New Orleans a run, and dominated Carolina the week prior.

I also have very little respect for Detroit. They've been pretty sub-par to average since September.

It's kind of like how I said in last week's thread, that GB would bounce back... because that's what NFL teams tend to do when you stick a fork in them. I think the Bears pull off something similar this week, and Sunday was the second time when we were without Trevathan... and proceeded to get run all over on by two different scrub/3rd string RB's.

If we get Trevathan and Long back... I just still think this is a game we pointlessly follow through on. But no one will really give a damn, and I'll just roll my eyes and laugh.

[Rusty Trombagent]

I think the level of pessimism with the final score predictions is a bit over the top. In the NFL, you're never quite as bad (or as good) as you think you are. This is still the only team that gave New Orleans a run, and dominated Carolina the week prior.

I do think that if Danny Trevathan was healthy, we probably win that game.

[Boris13c]

If we get Trevathan and Long back...

if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas

[Bears Whiskey Nut]

I think the level of pessimism with the final score predictions is a bit over the top. In the NFL, you're never quite as bad (or as good) as you think you are. This is still the only team that gave New Orleans a run, and dominated Carolina the week prior.

I do think that if Danny Trevathan was healthy, we probably win that game.

He is literally the backbone of the defense. When he is in the game, playing well, making the right adjustments, the defense is amazing. When he is out. It just about falls apart.

[Rusty Trombagent]

I think the level of pessimism with the final score predictions is a bit over the top. In the NFL, you're never quite as bad (or as good) as you think you are. This is still the only team that gave New Orleans a run, and dominated Carolina the week prior.

I do think that if Danny Trevathan was healthy, we probably win that game.

He is literally the backbone of the defense. When he is in the game, playing well, making the right adjustments, the defense is amazing. When he is out. It just about falls apart.

i dont think this is an exaggeration at all. last season i found myself at times wondering if he was worth what we were paying him, but man this season it's so obvious it's painful.

[Wounded Bear]

I'll be brief this week:

Bears - 10
Lions - 44

[46Blitz]

Bears 27
Lions 24

To be honest, since we are out of the picture for any division title or playoff spot... I wouldnt mind loosing every game provided it shows something of a glimpse of the future (the positive type). If we see steady improvement with Trubisky and some of the other young guys a better draft pick will be acceptable. I do t want to see a total collapse, but if we get edged out each game slightly oh well... heck, almost every loss so far was like that so whatever.

In this game, I feel it could be a nice little bounce back game. Detroit is the better team, but hey...

[docc]

I'll also be in briefs..
.. as it's an early game way out here near Mexico..

Think of that on chat..

[Ormazd]

I'm still pissed off from last week. Don't know if I'll watch or join the chat.

Lions 38
Bears 10

[ramentaschen]

This is going to be the first game I'm not going to watch, I have no confidence in this team right now. The Green Bay game broke my enthusiasm.

I have better things to do this Sunday but will view the lowlights later.


The sooner Pace and company gets rid of Fox and Loggains, the better.

[wab]

I don't have anything better to do, and I'm paying for Sunday Ticket either way. So... blah.

[G08]

I have to watch... but I can tell my heart's not in it so I'm not going to enjoy the game as much as I would have if it actually meant something.

Still... I guess seeing if Mitch improves will be fun. I guess.

[Richie]

I have to watch... but I can tell my heart's not in it so I'm not going to enjoy the game as much as I would have if it actually meant something.

Still... I guess seeing if Mitch improves will be fun. I guess.

Exactly. Just root for the young QB to progress and find ways to win. Much more important than a handful of spots in the draft.

[G08]

I have to watch... but I can tell my heart's not in it so I'm not going to enjoy the game as much as I would have if it actually meant something.

Still... I guess seeing if Mitch improves will be fun. I guess.

Exactly. Just root for the young QB to progress and find ways to win. Much more important than a handful of spots in the draft.

Ehhh I'm on the other side of the fence on the "I'd rather lose meaningless games to improve draft position" conversation.

Look what it cost us to move up one spot this past draft...

[Richie]

If we get Trevathan and Long back...

if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas

No, you're right.

Our defensive captain and best offensive lineman mean nothing to us...

That's sound logic.