UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:51 am

Thanks. Suspected as much. Guess we're going have to play the patient waiting game. Which for long-suffering Bears fans is not easy.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:51 am

From @dabearsblog. As with anything, take it with a grain of salt.

Little tidbit for Monday morning: There was a serious connection between Pace & McDaniels & the Pats OC emerged from round one of interviews as most impressive candidate.
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Also, there is A LOT of misinformation being spread by various camps. Best to just be patient as a fan.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:59 am

To be honest...I am not convinced that the Bears are going to get this right. I heard on the radio that Ginny McCaskey put the Bears ownership in a Generational Skip Trust. Meaning that when she dies, the family members that inherit the team, are going to owe taxes on a $3B asset, which they can't afford. So the team will have to go up for sale when Ginny passes. I think that's when I will be convinced that the Bears will be on the right track.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:31 am

mshu7 wrote:From @dabearsblog. As with anything, take it with a grain of salt.

Little tidbit for Monday morning: There was a serious connection between Pace & McDaniels & the Pats OC emerged from round one of interviews as most impressive candidate.
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Also, there is A LOT of misinformation being spread by various camps. Best to just be patient as a fan.
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I was wondering what kind of insider info he was teasing.
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Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:34 am

Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:To be honest...I am not convinced that the Bears are going to get this right. I heard on the radio that Ginny McCaskey put the Bears ownership in a Generational Skip Trust. Meaning that when she dies, the family members that inherit the team, are going to owe taxes on a $3B asset, which they can't afford. So the team will have to go up for sale when Ginny passes. I think that's when I will be convinced that the Bears will be on the right track.
Generation skipping transfer taxes are transferred at a much lower tax rate. It's also an installment tax.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:37 am

I am always cynical when these guys start trumpeting their inside info and anonymous sources bullshit ... this is all an exercise on who can guess correctly first since it is very likely none of these asswads knows a whole lot more than we do

which is kind of sad since they are being paid to actually know more than the average fan base ... but they shoot themselves in the foot by their rush to be first over riding any effort to try to actually be correct
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:40 am

Sports Mockery, bastion of truth, chimes in with news from their "source."

“BEARS AND (JOSH) MCDANIELS TALKS ADVANCING. PACE HAS ZEROED IN ON MCDANIELS FROM THE START AND HAS MADE HIM HIS TOP TARGET AND THAT HASN’T AND WON’T CHANGE. PACE WILL GO ALL OUT AND FIGHT UNTIL THE END TO GET HIS GUY.”

“PACE IS AWARE JOSH IS IN HIGH DEMAND AND WON’T BE UPSET WITH THAT. JOHN (DEFILIPPO) HAS IMPRESSED HIM TO THE POINT IF HE MISSES ON MCDANIELS HE HAS NO PROBLEMS HIRING JOHN AS HE HIT A GRAND SLAM IN HIS INTERVIEW.”
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:41 am

Hopefully after the HC has been announced, it’ll be a little more clear which of these insiders had the legit sources.
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Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:45 am

Anyone have a pulse on what's going to happen? Local TV was stating that they think something will be announced this week, but it sounded like pure speculation.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:47 am

McDaniels, I must say, excites the me most for being tied to Trubisky. That dude knows offensive football.

Can he be a leader of men, though? That's the biggest question mark I have... HOWEVER, I do think he needs some credit for developing Jimmy Garoppolo. Not a bad resume...
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:54 am

Another Moon Mullin tweet about George/Phillips involvement.

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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:58 am

UOK wrote:Sports Mockery, bastion of truth, chimes in with news from their "source."

“BEARS AND (JOSH) MCDANIELS TALKS ADVANCING. PACE HAS ZEROED IN ON MCDANIELS FROM THE START AND HAS MADE HIM HIS TOP TARGET AND THAT HASN’T AND WON’T CHANGE. PACE WILL GO ALL OUT AND FIGHT UNTIL THE END TO GET HIS GUY.”

“PACE IS AWARE JOSH IS IN HIGH DEMAND AND WON’T BE UPSET WITH THAT. JOHN (DEFILIPPO) HAS IMPRESSED HIM TO THE POINT IF HE MISSES ON MCDANIELS HE HAS NO PROBLEMS HIRING JOHN AS HE HIT A GRAND SLAM IN HIS INTERVIEW.”

I don't particularly like Greg Gabriel - but as he pointed out - no one at Halas Hall save for a couple of people knew that the Bears were drafting Mitch Trubisky. Why does anyone think that Pace is going to leak out his feelings on the coaches interviews or who his leader is.


Now - its possible this is coming from McDaniels and his agent - but I doubt it.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:02 am

Gabriel was on the radio last night and was saying that. He also said Bears fans need to pay more attention to Brad Biggs than anyone else out. He stated he feels Biggs gets more and better info than most "reporters", "insiders." Take that for what you want.

Have been listening to Boston sports talk. no real mentions of McDaniels, all about the melt down. These guys saying Brady basically shut out Jimmy G and wanted him out. Had his trainer quit working on Jimmy. brady was feel threatened.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:03 am

Out of curiosity - has anyone heard of any possible DC's attached to McDaniels? One of the things I worry about with a McD hire is that the incest is so prevalent over there that I don't know how many connections outside of NE McDaniels might have.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:05 am

Otis Day wrote:Gabriel was on the radio last night and was saying that. He also said Bears fans need to pay more attention to Brad Biggs than anyone else out. He stated he feels Biggs gets more and better info than most "reporters", "insiders." Take that for what you want.

Have been listening to Boston sports talk. no real mentions of McDaniels, all about the melt down. These guys saying Brady basically shut out Jimmy G and wanted him out. Had his trainer quit working on Jimmy. brady was feel threatened.

I absolutely believe that Belicheck would be ready to cut bait with Brady at the end of this season and start another 10yr run with Jimmy G. And I absolutely believe that Brady felt threatened by the idea of it.

Hopefully they crater and Kraft is left with an ugly shell of a team next year.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:11 am

Biggs is the most trustworthy, unquestionable Bears media source out there. If he says it, it's happening.

Mullin has been covering the Bears for a long time and appears to be rather neutral about his reporting. Unlike blowhards like David Haugh and Mike Mulligan, who seem more bent on riling the fans up more than doing much actual reporting.
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Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:26 am

Hiphopopotamos wrote:Another Moon Mullin tweet about George/Phillips involvement.

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That's a fair question.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:28 am

I'm not buying anything regarding to McDaniels until he's standing at the podium with a Bears hat on, if only for my own sanity.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:30 am

Hiphopopotamos wrote:I don't particularly like Greg Gabriel - but as he pointed out - no one at Halas Hall save for a couple of people knew that the Bears were drafting Mitch Trubisky. Why does anyone think that Pace is going to leak out his feelings on the coaches interviews or who his leader is.
You beat me to it. Although HC interviews involve people outside the Bears war room. One thing that looks pretty clear. We're hearing sources saying Flip and another saying McDaniels. That tells you right there that some of the information out there is wrong.
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Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:34 am

Hiphopopotamos wrote:Another Moon Mullin tweet about George/Phillips involvement.

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if george mccaskey looked like george wendt we would never have to have this discussion.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:39 am

wab wrote:I'm not buying anything regarding to McDaniels until he's standing at the podium with a Bears hat on, if only for my own sanity.
That's how I feel too.

When I ranked the candidates, I said Flip scared me. And he does. But not because he has the big black splotch on his resume like McD does. Everything on Flips resume is good... Energetic teacher and motivator with great personality... History of success with young QBs... Last guy out of the building... It's just that some things are missing that make me nervous. It'll be easy to get behind Flip with hope. I'd get behind McDaniels too. But I'd be waiting for bad stuff to happen.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:02 am

RustyTrubisky wrote:if george mccaskey looked like george wendt we would never have to have this discussion.
Hey dere -- whaddaya mean? Would you be insinuating something about a certain kind of food? Da kind dat goes with spaghettis???

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Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:19 am

From an SI article dated 1/2/18:
Will that be this year? When McDaniels says he’ll only leave for the right opportunity, that means he will not take a job unless two things are in place: 1) a quarterback he likes, or the opportunity to draft one; and 2) a good partner as GM. As far as the first criterion goes, the Bears have Mitchell Trubisky, last year’s No. 2 pick; the Colts have Andrew Luck, though the true status of the shoulder injury that kept him out all season is an important consideration; and the Giants have the No. 2 pick in this year's draft, with which they could draft their next potential franchise quarterback to succeed Eli Manning.
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Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:23 am

Otis Day wrote:From an SI article dated 1/2/18:
Will that be this year? When McDaniels says he’ll only leave for the right opportunity, that means he will not take a job unless two things are in place: 1) a quarterback he likes, or the opportunity to draft one; and 2) a good partner as GM. As far as the first criterion goes, the Bears have Mitchell Trubisky, last year’s No. 2 pick; the Colts have Andrew Luck, though the true status of the shoulder injury that kept him out all season is an important consideration; and the Giants have the No. 2 pick in this year's draft, with which they could draft their next potential franchise quarterback to succeed Eli Manning.
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One player who has worked with McDaniels in New England calls him “the biggest extension of Bill Belichick.” He’s as detail-oriented as Belichick, has shown his creativity in making the most of the Patriots’ rotating cast of offensive skill-position players and, while Tom Brady served his Deflategate suspension during the first four games of the 2016 season, proved he can win games with quarterbacks not named Brady.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:32 am

I just have the gut feeling McDaniels would choose the Colts over the Bears because of the implication he would have more control there ... and I'm ok with that

I think Shurmur is the safest option who could legitimately be Trubisky's mentor ... and once the Saints beat the crap out of the Vikings this weekend, he will be available
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:33 am

Shurmur/Flip are my top wants. Nagy is my fallback. Fangio is my plan C.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:44 am

Hiphopopotamos wrote:Out of curiosity - has anyone heard of any possible DC's attached to McDaniels? One of the things I worry about with a McD hire is that the incest is so prevalent over there that I don't know how many connections outside of NE McDaniels might have.

I asked this same question back on page 80. I can't remember who said it but I read some tweets yesterday that said McDaniels could put together a top staff easily.

If he is willing to keep Fangio, I think this is a no brainer. He would have to be the #1 candidate on the list. With candidates becoming available to sign, I'm thinking we'll actually get a glimpse who really is in the hunt and who is just smoke and mirrors.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:52 am

Hiphopopotamos wrote:Out of curiosity - has anyone heard of any possible DC's attached to McDaniels? One of the things I worry about with a McD hire is that the incest is so prevalent over there that I don't know how many connections outside of NE McDaniels might have.
Eric Mangini is floating out there somewhere in the ether... blah.
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:54 am

Matt Nagy!
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Re: UPDATE: Future Head Coaching Options Discussion

Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:08 pm

guess this thread has run its course

I'm honestly surprised the move came so soon
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