I rank this guy dead last of everyone listed thus far.
Can anyone give a positive on this guy? He was bad the first time, and that’s being generous, and don’t know what he has done to make me think he would be better as a retread.
Sorry if he has a thread already I couldn’t find it if he did.
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Then you're not going to like to hear this:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/re ... ar-AAT0I37Caldwell declined interview requests from the Las Vegas Raiders and Minnesota Vikings, according to ESPN’s Dan Graziano. This likely indicates that Caldwell expects to land one of the other available head-coaching positions, and he is reportedly in the mix for the Chicago Bears and Jacksonville Jaguars.
Graziano believes the Bears may be the most likely landing spot for Caldwell. Former Colts GM Bill Polian, who has strong links with Caldwell, is advising that search. There have been reports that another coach with Polian ties could be in the mix there as well.
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At 107 years old, Polian probably still thinks of Caldwell as a spring chicken.
Honestly, he'd probably be fine for Fields and as a coach for a few years, but as longterm face and fix for this franchise? Pretty uninspiring.
I'd love him as an OC. I'd dislike him less than Frazier as an HC hire, but otherwise, doesn't get me excited at all.
Honestly, he'd probably be fine for Fields and as a coach for a few years, but as longterm face and fix for this franchise? Pretty uninspiring.
I'd love him as an OC. I'd dislike him less than Frazier as an HC hire, but otherwise, doesn't get me excited at all.
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At least he’s not Frazier, lol. JFC.
Man, if some of these hires are made I’m going to need someone to talk me off the ledge… or maybe push me.
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Only about 1/3 of the way through - but a great interview thus far.
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Caldwell would be the Andy Dalton of HC hires. Hopefully he's just planning on being someone's OC and not HC
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Still holding out hope that he's committed to being Flores' OC. But with the reports that he's started putting together a staff already...methinks he's either coming to Chicago or headed to Jacksonville.
Sigh.
Sigh.
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Figures Polian comes in and they sign a Polian guy. Same with Fox and Acorsi. We could do worse but seems like a short term fix.
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If Caldwell is the guy I don’t know if I’m watching a game next season.
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Is it not more likely that Caldwell is going to Jacksonville?
They have a GM, the bears don’t. The bears have a lot more HC candidates to interview.
It seems more likely that he’s going to Jacksonville with this news
They have a GM, the bears don’t. The bears have a lot more HC candidates to interview.
It seems more likely that he’s going to Jacksonville with this news
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Oof. What an uninspiring hire this would be. Caldwell wasn't horrible, but also was not good in his first two stints. It's not like he was young either and just needed experience. I mean, it could be worse... maybe. But is that really our standard?
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Watching the interview. He IS a good guy and a lot of experience.
So ex QB coach with a pretty good reputation as an offensive coordinator, super religious guy and now on a plant based diet? It's him. It is.
So ex QB coach with a pretty good reputation as an offensive coordinator, super religious guy and now on a plant based diet? It's him. It is.
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OK OK OK... I guess I"m OK with the guy. There's nothing to not like. He's the "leader" type coach and not a coordinator as HC. Quinn's story about Caldwell deferring to his coordinators and letting them do their job tells the story. So a good GM bringing in good coordinators and it wouldn't be as vanilla as it seems like it would be with his announcement as HC.
OK OK OK... I guess I"m OK with the guy. There's nothing to not like. He's the "leader" type coach and not a coordinator as HC. Quinn's story about Caldwell deferring to his coordinators and letting them do their job tells the story. So a good GM bringing in good coordinators and it wouldn't be as vanilla as it seems like it would be with his announcement as HC.
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Save us Lord Jesus.
We may not deserve it, but I’m asking you Savior that this doesn’t happen.
Please let Jim Caldwell go to Jacksonville.
We may not deserve it, but I’m asking you Savior that this doesn’t happen.
Please let Jim Caldwell go to Jacksonville.
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Impressive site -- lots of good info there. (Interesting to note that he's Tomlin and Kaepernick's Frat Brother.) I'm curious what we find so UN-inspiring about him.
Is it the age thing? (67 is getting up there)
Is it the underwhelming record? (Over .500 but not setting the world on fire)
Is it the laid-back personality? (Fiery doesn't necessarily buy you anything)
Is it the Polian/Dungy connection (More old dudes)
It's DEF not a race thing -- we're way past that, plus there are AA coaches that we're all fired up about.
I'm curious what the thinking is -- I'm not necessarily fired up about him either although I have to admit, he's a good man and a solid coach.
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There is no thinking here.IotaNet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:58 pmImpressive site -- lots of good info there. (Interesting to note that he's Tomlin and Kaepernick's Frat Brother.) I'm curious what we find so UN-inspiring about him.
Is it the age thing? (67 is getting up there)
Is it the underwhelming record? (Over .500 but not setting the world on fire)
Is it the laid-back personality? (Fiery doesn't necessarily buy you anything)
Is it the Polian/Dungy connection (More old dudes)
It's DEF not a race thing -- we're way past that, plus there are AA coaches that we're all fired up about.
I'm curious what the thinking is -- I'm not necessarily fired up about him either although I have to admit, he's a good man and a solid coach.
George is going to hire this guy thinking he found a diamond in the rough.
Caldwell has been around forever. What makes us think we found something the other 30 teams have missed over the past decade?
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For me it’s similar to “the age thing”.
I know most HCs only last 3-4 seasons - which takes him into his early 70’s but I’d like to see a successful HC who can realistically stick around for a decade at least.
This hire almost guarantees you’ll be doing this all again in 3-4 years time.
I’d like to see some stability. I’d like to see some long term planning. I’d like to see succession planning.
I see this as a short-term hire, and that bothers me.
Having said all that, I’ll give the guy my unwavering backing if he does get the job.
I know most HCs only last 3-4 seasons - which takes him into his early 70’s but I’d like to see a successful HC who can realistically stick around for a decade at least.
This hire almost guarantees you’ll be doing this all again in 3-4 years time.
I’d like to see some stability. I’d like to see some long term planning. I’d like to see succession planning.
I see this as a short-term hire, and that bothers me.
Having said all that, I’ll give the guy my unwavering backing if he does get the job.
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Not necessarily. What if he hires bright, young coordinators?Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:11 pm For me it’s similar to “the age thing”.
I know most HCs only last 3-4 seasons - which takes him into his early 70’s but I’d like to see a successful HC who can realistically stick around for a decade at least.
This hire almost guarantees you’ll be doing this all again in 3-4 years time.
I’d like to see some stability. I’d like to see some long term planning. I’d like to see succession planning.
I see this as a short-term hire, and that bothers me.
That could open the door to some succession planning that would allow us to AVOID what other teams are dealing with -- having their bright, young coordinators poached to become HC's elsewhere. That would lead to better continuity in the long-run.
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I'm thinking maybe that is their thinking. Maybe there's a current OC or DC they like but they think isn't ready for full HC. Maybe Caldwell agreed with them on some such prospects, and would bring in a more "exciting" (or whatever) prospect as AHC and immediate heir apparent. What you get with Caldwell is a guy who has no learning curve from the jump (something most incoming coordinators would have as HC - guys like Dabol). But then in terms of the team's strategy and approach the coordinators bring the modern game that renders his age less important.IotaNet wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:15 pmNot necessarily. What if he hires bright, young coordinators?Ditka’s dictaphone wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:11 pm For me it’s similar to “the age thing”.
I know most HCs only last 3-4 seasons - which takes him into his early 70’s but I’d like to see a successful HC who can realistically stick around for a decade at least.
This hire almost guarantees you’ll be doing this all again in 3-4 years time.
I’d like to see some stability. I’d like to see some long term planning. I’d like to see succession planning.
I see this as a short-term hire, and that bothers me.
That could open the door to some succession planning that would allow us to AVOID what other teams are dealing with -- having their bright, young coordinators poached to become HC's elsewhere.
In this way it makes sense to me. I'm guessing Polian has them doing their due diligence but might be pulling an entire staff package together in a way that mitigates the age thing and the unexciting thing. Anyway... that's how I rationalize until I'm disappointed. LOL
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We're going deep down the rabbit hole of "what ifs" but that would be a FANTASTIC situation in my mind.IE wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:23 pmI'm thinking maybe that is their thinking. Maybe there's a current OC or DC they like but they think isn't ready for full HC. Maybe Caldwell agreed with them on some such prospects, and would bring in a more "exciting" (or whatever) prospect as AHC and immediate heir apparent. What you get with Caldwell is a guy who has no learning curve from the jump (something most incoming coordinators would have as HC - guys like Dabol). But then in terms of the team's strategy and approach the coordinators bring the modern game that renders his age less important.
In this way it makes sense to me. I'm guessing Polian has them doing their due diligence but might be pulling an entire staff package together in a way that mitigates the age thing and the unexciting thing. Anyway... that's how I rationalize until I'm disappointed. LOL
Caldwell definitely knows how to inspire loyalty and culture. To create a scenario that builds culture, minimizes immediate risk (of naming an untested coordinator to the HC spot), and simultaneously builds in succession + continuity would be a masterstroke. Especially if there were alignment with the new GM.
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Please. NO. I’ll slit my fucking wrists in the lobby of Halas Hall.
I’m in Jacksonville right now… if you guys all send me your life savings, I’ll drive to the Jags’ office and do my best to bribe them to hire Caldwell.
I’m in Jacksonville right now… if you guys all send me your life savings, I’ll drive to the Jags’ office and do my best to bribe them to hire Caldwell.
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When I feel like that I have had good results with a Black Grouse & Durban poison chaser.The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm Save us Lord Jesus.
We may not deserve it, but I’m asking you Savior that this doesn’t happen.
Please let Jim Caldwell go to Jacksonville.
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I seemed to have pretty much skipped the first few Stages of Grief and went straight to Bargaining.pus wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:38 pmWhen I feel like that I have had good results with a Black Grouse & Durban poison chaser.The Marshall Plan wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:49 pm Save us Lord Jesus.
We may not deserve it, but I’m asking you Savior that this doesn’t happen.
Please let Jim Caldwell go to Jacksonville.
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