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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:44 pm 
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i think it's entirely possible that Cohen spends most of his time at WR.
I bet that happened this year, but should even more next year. How you play a guy like Cohen is an interesting game, especially when you have a Jordan Howard. I think the possibilities magnify when you have both guys on the field at once. They can really do a lot of things with Cohen and it will be fascinating to see what Helfrich and Nagy come up with.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:40 pm 
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Mikefive wrote:
wab wrote:
i think it's entirely possible that Cohen spends most of his time at WR.
I bet that happened this year, but should even more next year. How you play a guy like Cohen is an interesting game, especially when you have a Jordan Howard. I think the possibilities magnify when you have both guys on the field at once. They can really do a lot of things with Cohen and it will be fascinating to see what Helfrich and Nagy come up with.

An abundance of jet sweeps would be nice, especially with the rpo.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:10 pm 
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Bit off topic and not to flog a dead horse but... did anyone check out how Deonte Thompson's season turned out. For Buffalo his catch % dropped off a little from his career average but he caught 25 of 25 "catchable" balls going into week 17 and had zero drops all year for them.

His final stats ended up almost identical to Albert Wilson's. Cutting him does look like a bit of a mistake!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 pm 
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Bit off topic and not to flog a dead horse but... did anyone check out how Deonte Thompson's season turned out. For Buffalo his catch % dropped off a little from his career average but he caught 25 of 25 "catchable" balls going into week 17 and had zero drops all year for them.

His final stats ended up almost identical to Albert Wilson's. Cutting him does look like a bit of a mistake!


I was pissed off when we let him go. I thought he was ascending and really wanted to see what he could do with MT10. Oh well.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:36 pm 
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I never thought Deonte Thompson was a performance cut. I always assumed something else happened in house, and they decided to cut ties.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:51 pm 
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Mikefive wrote:
How you play a guy like Cohen is an interesting game, especially when you have a Jordan Howard. I think the possibilities magnify when you have both guys on the field at once. They can really do a lot of things with Cohen and it will be fascinating to see what Helfrich and Nagy come up with.


2 TE, 2 RB 1 WR sets... (multiple pass and common run plays to go with some gems below)
-Split both TE's out left with Jordan and Cohen in the backfield and WR right:
=Quick snap Cohen Sweep R with Howard leading
=Motion Jordan out left, playaction Cohen right, screen pass left to Howard with both TE's out blocking;
=Motion Cohen out left, fake pitch R with Cohen coming back under for a shovel pass;
=Motion Cohen out right to stack behind WR (lots of mis-matches on this formation)
=Playaction both right up the middle with TE's running a double slant and WR running a fade
=Motion Cohen out left, fake screen, delay draw up the middle with Howard
=Line up, quick snap fake Cohen sweep with Howard leading, screen pass to TE coming under

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:15 pm 
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G08 wrote:
malk wrote:
Bit off topic and not to flog a dead horse but... did anyone check out how Deonte Thompson's season turned out. For Buffalo his catch % dropped off a little from his career average but he caught 25 of 25 "catchable" balls going into week 17 and had zero drops all year for them.

His final stats ended up almost identical to Albert Wilson's. Cutting him does look like a bit of a mistake!


I was pissed off when we let him go. I thought he was ascending and really wanted to see what he could do with MT10. Oh well.


So was I. He really developed a nice chemistry with Biscuits in the preseason.


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Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
G08 wrote:
malk wrote:
Bit off topic and not to flog a dead horse but... did anyone check out how Deonte Thompson's season turned out. For Buffalo his catch % dropped off a little from his career average but he caught 25 of 25 "catchable" balls going into week 17 and had zero drops all year for them.

His final stats ended up almost identical to Albert Wilson's. Cutting him does look like a bit of a mistake!


I was pissed off when we let him go. I thought he was ascending and really wanted to see what he could do with MT10. Oh well.


So was I. He really developed a nice chemistry with Biscuits in the preseason.


The Fox regime must not have been in favor of the whole QB chemistry thing. Look what they did (or didn't do actually) with Shaheen.


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The Marshall Plan wrote:
Bears Whiskey Nut wrote:
G08 wrote:
malk wrote:
Bit off topic and not to flog a dead horse but... did anyone check out how Deonte Thompson's season turned out. For Buffalo his catch % dropped off a little from his career average but he caught 25 of 25 "catchable" balls going into week 17 and had zero drops all year for them.

His final stats ended up almost identical to Albert Wilson's. Cutting him does look like a bit of a mistake!


I was pissed off when we let him go. I thought he was ascending and really wanted to see what he could do with MT10. Oh well.


So was I. He really developed a nice chemistry with Biscuits in the preseason.


The Fox regime must not have been in favor of the whole QB chemistry thing. Look what they did (or didn't do actually) with Shaheen.


Shaheen's fault was that he was a rookie. According to Fox, rookies don't know how to play football.


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staleystarch wrote:
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wab wrote:
i think it's entirely possible that Cohen spends most of his time at WR.
I bet that happened this year, but should even more next year. How you play a guy like Cohen is an interesting game, especially when you have a Jordan Howard. I think the possibilities magnify when you have both guys on the field at once. They can really do a lot of things with Cohen and it will be fascinating to see what Helfrich and Nagy come up with.

An abundance of jet sweeps would be nice, especially with the rpo.


Yes. I would like to see a lot of 12 personnel. Start with 2 TE and 2 RB. My guess is that Nagy/Hellfrich is going to use Shaheen as a Travis Kelce. Big TE that is more of a big WR than a TE. He will shift the offense around a lot before the snap to get the defense to give up key information. He'll motion Cohen out of the backfield, or he'll motion Shaheen out of the TE spot to the slot.


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