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Knuckles wrote:UOK... Actually pretty fair all around deal IMHO. So long as he's not a psychopath like Burfict trying to kill a player he will get paid. I watched all of Smiths highlight vids and game tape again man he's going to be fun to watch. He did have quite a few plays where it was borderline a helmet penalty though and I was thinking to myself man it's going to be a frustrating season IF any of those amazing plays are penalized. If you watched most of the preseason games so far there's been similar plays flagged with absolutely no consistency. It was good for him to work a deal with that alone.
Assuming the posted information is correct, I agree. The Bears got what they wanted... Protection from paying a player doing really stupid malicious stuff. At the same time, Roquan gets protected from losing $$$ over stuff where he was playing football and there was a judgement call against him.

But couldn't we have worked this out earlier than now?
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G08 wrote:Just stay healthy kid, I want to see you flying all over the fucking field this year.
Let this quoted post apply to the entire roster.
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Mikefive wrote:[

But couldn't we have worked this out earlier than now?

I figured they would have ended the hold out after the HOF game seeing it was just a glorified scrimmage for 3-4th stringers but I guess it took one more week to get the Bears to budge before the fans went ballistic.
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All I can say is, it's about damn time.
I understand it's a business and all but it still pisses me off when 1st round rookies miss half of training camp.
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At llllaaaaaaaaast.

Wow, that's a good thing and to echo what's already been said, it seems like a pretty fair deal all round. I'm glad that the Bears didn't yield everything because that would have been an ugly precedent to set.

However, the issue of whether or not he is the aggressor in a given scenario sounds like it could be an extremely ambiguous and contentious point further down the line should it ever happen.
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So..Rockon Smith..
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Smith already getting reps with the first team defense.
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Timu should go into coaching. He seems to have the instincts but he can't do anything with them do to his slowness. Even if they put the old IR red shirt on Iggy this season Timu would be 5th behind Anderson.
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Z Bear wrote:Timu should go into coaching. He seems to have the instincts but he can't do anything with them do to his slowness. Even if they put the old IR red shirt on Iggy this season Timu would be 5th behind Anderson.
I always thought Hunter Hillenmeyer would be a great coach. I remember Urlacher talking about how the defensive coaches had assignment points per play. If you were in the spot you needed to be in you'd get the point, if you wandered out of your assigned zone you didn't. Urlacher said Hunter almost always beat him and Briggs. Tank Johnson said he was the smartest guy on the team. Kreutz use to poke fun at him for having all the degrees but doing the same thing as him. Players on the team seemed to love him, even the guys wanting his spot.

Hell he made fun of Briggs because he made more money than him, knowing Briggs was going to get a big deal the next year and it was his only chance. lol
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UOK wrote:
G08 wrote:Super. Precedent set and I'm beginning to wonder more and more if Pace is a bit of a sucker when it comes to these negotiations.

<Insert someone jumping to conclusions by thinking I'm referring to the trade up for Trubisky>
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Roquan Smith ran fine in his first padded practice as an NFL player.

He sprinkled in with the reserves during team drills and usually called the play in the huddle. There were a couple of plays on which Smith ranged from the middle to near the sideline, something we got accustomed to seeing in spring practices.

Beyond that, it’s impossible for us to know for sure whether Smith was sound in his assignments. He was asked after practice how often he found himself in the right spot and wrong spot.

“I remember a lot of the defense,” he said. “I had my tablet when I was back in Georgia, so I was watching a lot of film and stuff like that. It’s not like it’s my first time seeing some of the defensive calls.”

OK, so that didn’t exactly answer the question. On one play in team drills, Smith and safety Deon Bush ran to the flat to cover the same tight end. An educated guess is one of them was not supposed to be there.

On several plays in team drills and seven-on-seven, Smith’s ability to change directions was challenged by multiple crossing routes in front of him. For example, a tight end would cross his face going one way, then a running back would cross his face the other way. Smith was agile enough, and he’ll play faster and recognize things better as he builds experience. He’s behind in that regard.
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UOK wrote:http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/fo ... story.html

Roquan Smith ran fine in his first padded practice as an NFL player.

He sprinkled in with the reserves during team drills and usually called the play in the huddle. There were a couple of plays on which Smith ranged from the middle to near the sideline, something we got accustomed to seeing in spring practices.

Beyond that, it’s impossible for us to know for sure whether Smith was sound in his assignments. He was asked after practice how often he found himself in the right spot and wrong spot.

“I remember a lot of the defense,” he said. “I had my tablet when I was back in Georgia, so I was watching a lot of film and stuff like that. It’s not like it’s my first time seeing some of the defensive calls.”

OK, so that didn’t exactly answer the question. On one play in team drills, Smith and safety Deon Bush ran to the flat to cover the same tight end. An educated guess is one of them was not supposed to be there.

On several plays in team drills and seven-on-seven, Smith’s ability to change directions was challenged by multiple crossing routes in front of him. For example, a tight end would cross his face going one way, then a running back would cross his face the other way. Smith was agile enough, and he’ll play faster and recognize things better as he builds experience. He’s behind in that regard.
He just had to mention the tablet didn't he?
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#Bears top pick Roquan Smith exited Tuesday’s practice early with tightness in his left hamstring, according to Matt Nagy.
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Roquan Smith did very little on the field today at Bears practice. Matt Nagy says Roquan is dealing with a hamstring injury. Far from ideal.
Exactly what happened with Joey Bosa, per Waddle and Silvy.

It's almost -- ALMOST -- as if some of us actually worried about this!

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How in the fuck did he injure his hamstring?
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So glad that drama is over. I was afraid his holdout would carry into the regular season. I hoñe both sides got what they wanted and we get 5 great years from Roquan. GO BEARS!!!

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Vic Fangio on the Coaches Show said that Mr. Holdout Roquan Smith is still being negatively impacted by his holdout during Training Camp. Specifically he cited that he is not properly hitting his depths in certain zone coverages and is failing to adequately identify route concepts from certain offensive formations. He said this was covered during camp.

Again, anyone who says a player holding out doesn't negatively impact the team is 100% wrong.
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G08 wrote: Again, anyone who says a player holding out doesn't negatively impact the team is 100% wrong.

Is there some giant bloc of people that say this? And if so - why are you listening to them?

This is 100% a player using the only leverage they have to ensure themselves the best deal possible. I'd do the same damn thing if I had been in his position.
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Hiphopopotamos wrote:
G08 wrote: Again, anyone who says a player holding out doesn't negatively impact the team is 100% wrong.

Is there some giant bloc of people that say this? And if so - why are you listening to them?

This is 100% a player using the only leverage they have to ensure themselves the best deal possible. I'd do the same damn thing if I had been in his position.
I wouldn't hold out for petty shit that 95% likely would never occur. He was a pawn of his agents and, to me, that's pathetic.

If you've got the time, read through this thread.

"Oh, he won't get hurt, he'll be in shape"

-- Gets hurt.

"Oh, he's got his playbook, he'll be fine"

-- Making mistakes on the field halfway through the season.
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Just think what he will be when he has this D down pat. Oh mutha fucking shit!!!!! I would still say he and Trevathan are probably 2 of the best ILBs in the league.
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Otis Day wrote:Just think what he will be when he has this D down pat. Oh mutha fucking shit!!!!! I would still say he and Trevathan are probably 2 of the best ILBs in the league.
God-willing he stays healthy, he should be a fucking animal. I just want it NOW :lol:
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By the end of the year, if both stay healthy, Danny and Roquan will be considered the best ILB tandem in the league.

I have been SO IMPRESSED with Roquan's ability to diagnose the play, keep track of the ball, and then to take the optimal path for the tackle, arriving with speed and bad intentions. These are instinctual qualities that are VERY hard to coach/teach. He is going to be a force in the middle for Chicago for a long, long time.
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G08 wrote: ... I wouldn't hold out for petty shit that 95% likely would never occur. He was a pawn of his agents and, to me, that's pathetic ...
I don't think he was a pawn at all. This is a (very) smart young man who understands the business side of football and always has. If you don't believe me, read the story about how he ended up committing to Georgia instead of UCLA.

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I understand that we want him here, playing and getting it done but football is a business where your career can be instantly curtailed (or ended) by circumstances beyond your control. Good for him to exercise thought and ownership of the portions he COULD control.

We always talk about how athletes should be "smart with their money" or "make good decisions" about their future and we shake our heads about the ones who don't. I cannot be mad at Smith for being smart.

Besides, any Football player that can force "Stevie Sunshine" Rosenbloom to have to eat his words in print is alright with me! https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/r ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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G08 wrote:
Hiphopopotamos wrote:
G08 wrote: Again, anyone who says a player holding out doesn't negatively impact the team is 100% wrong.

Is there some giant bloc of people that say this? And if so - why are you listening to them?

This is 100% a player using the only leverage they have to ensure themselves the best deal possible. I'd do the same damn thing if I had been in his position.
I wouldn't hold out for petty shit that 95% likely would never occur. He was a pawn of his agents and, to me, that's pathetic.

If its no big deal then why were the Bears's holding the line on that issue? Sounds like it was important to both sides.
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Hiphopopotamos wrote:
G08 wrote:
Hiphopopotamos wrote:
G08 wrote: Again, anyone who says a player holding out doesn't negatively impact the team is 100% wrong.

Is there some giant bloc of people that say this? And if so - why are you listening to them?

This is 100% a player using the only leverage they have to ensure themselves the best deal possible. I'd do the same damn thing if I had been in his position.
I wouldn't hold out for petty shit that 95% likely would never occur. He was a pawn of his agents and, to me, that's pathetic.

If its no big deal then why were the Bears's holding the line on that issue? Sounds like it was important to both sides.
Because it's unprecedented and they didn't want to set the precedent. Pretty basic stuff, he was a pawn.
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